So?; the state's attorney thought it prudent to do further investigation. Maybe you should be writing him. It was his judgement.

You're absolutely correct Richie. This is where the focus should be and not on civil rights activists and the media nuturing and encouraging the "guilty in the court of public opinion" mentality for 'supposedly' honorable reasons I won't go into here! All the distraction going on is making true justice nearly impossible, wither it's for Martin, Zimmerman or anyone else for that matter!

This kind of statement makes an assumption that an officers opinion is always 100% perfect and in truth they are no more or less perfect that the rest of us are. That's why there has to be checks and balances, especially in light of their jobs being frequently emotionally charged and occasionally their judgment hampered because of it. They're needed to determine if the charges are correct and to make sure that any evidence has a decent chance of holding up in court. If I were wrong, would there be any chance of incidents like what you'll see happening in this video?

http://youtu.be/mQcb4numzUo

New info coming out on George Zimmermans 2005 arrest.

Why didn't you post it? 2005 sounds like old news to me.

Maybe I want all the true facts before I post.

True
 

"True facts" is redundant. If the statement is true, it is fact. If not true, it cannot be a fact.

This is interesting. The news logo is in the way part of the time though.
 

Why doesn't everybody just wait for the facts?
 

As forensic experts have pointed out, the video proves nothing. Yet the linked website's report (Huffington Post) is typical of the media's treatment of the incident. It is good to see, however, that the media's lynch-mob attack on Zimmerman is becoming more restrained as more facts emerge.

In the above-cited report, the Huffington Post headlines the killing as a "tragedy". IF Zimmerman's account proves to be true, many people might use a different adjective.

Think George Zimmerman and the condo association will be paying dearly for this killing.All of the people in those condos will be sued.Geoge was the head honcho to call about crime in that condo complex.Did not see anything coming out of that police car,that he was hurt. Just a stroll into the police station. No blood, no nose problem like he says was broken. He really screwed up big time.Hope he gets what he deserves killing that teenager. Just someone playing he's a cop.

there is no opportunity to "wait for the facts"....the media just will not tolerate such an intelligent choice. Just look at the circus the tried to revive yesterday with the so called Zimmerman...did you see any lumps or bumps tape. And then interviewing anybody and everybody except the guy in the sewer asking what did you see?

Absolutely irresponsible....school yard level reporting.

Also notice their indiscriminate use of the word alleged. Which is usually used with even an event on film showing a shooter shooting. Regarding Zimmerman they rarely if ever use alleged. However last night the reporter said they were viewing the most recent tapes to see if the alleged broken nose and broken scalp could be detected.

Pure racist, biased, baiting reporting (is there any other kind?).

btk

British parents of 2 young white tourists who were brutally murdered by a black assailant who was miffed that they didn't have much money and then shot them multiple times as they begged for their lives, tried 3 times to get a response through letters from Obama.

I guess there was no political upside for him.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ack-Obama.html

For those of you who can withhold your opinion until after you have had an oppruntity to read and digest the article, read Ann coulter's column in Sunday's Daily Sun:clap2:

They don't have to wait to read it.

Ann Coulter - March 28, 2012 - 'POST-RACIAL' LYNCH MOB

Sorry thought this was the Martin post.

Thanks richielion

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Funny, but appropriate. Well, anyway, we know what we have. sometimes I get so tired of all the negative B.S. on the news. Maybe I'll live longer if I only read the Daily Sun. :)

This was a tragedy. And we know there are always two sides to every story. we will probably never know the truth.

Non-fact based conclusions
 

How can you possibly reach the conclusions that you have based on the publicly available information? Why not just wait until all the facts come out? E.g., if Zimmerman was injured, there will be medical reports to substantiate that fact. (Certainly the police report states that he was injured, but you seem to want to believe that the police officers, for some unexplained reason, would lie to protect a guy they didn't even know.)

My conclusion, George Zimmerman -Gun- Travon Martin No Gun. George alive, Travon dead.If it happened.....George being punched in the nose. Does that mean all the people in all the years where smacked in the nose, you have a license to shoot them.What I see is a hint of something else taking place by some of the posters.So this is my view.

What if head was being pounded on concrete by a mugger?
 

Why not wait before reaching conclusions?

What if Zimmerman was the victim of a mugger, who was pounding Zimmerman's head on the concrete in an attempt to kill him? I'm afraid that you are acting a lot like the professional agitator Al Sharpton and reaching conclusions not supported by the facts, but by your own agenda or prejudices. I'm not saying that your conclusion is wrong-- just way too premature.

If it is decided that it is a legitimate case of self-defense then nobody is going to sue anybody. One of the benefits of the Castle doctrine and the stand your ground law it protects the person from civil suit also.

Hope that doesn't ruin your day.

Advagado...Protect a guy they didn't even know? Be real, Zimmerman's daddy is a judge!

Father a judge = police coverup
 

I didn't know that. I guess that means that Zimmerman must be guilty?

This gives a little different picture of Zimmerman.
 

This is a forum for opinions. Which may change when more facts are revealed. Members like to chit-chat and speculate about current events.

Maybe you should ask travon martin if his head was being pounded also.I really think George Zimmerman drove around and walked around that complex as if he owned it.I think if I looked out a seen a white man following a black teenager i would be concerned.Think George got really cocky and this kid decked him. Not sure of head pounded in the ground more like the back of his head was on the ground.George was losing the fight and took out his piece and killed the teenager. Yes---Pure and Simple. And yes homeowners can be part of the sued.

That's exactly what Advogado was doing and I think he/she has just as much right to express their opinions as those who think and believe like many did back in the days of the wild west... hang now, ask questions later!

I also agree that Sharpton is a professional agitator. He, as well as Alton Maddox and C Vernon Mason, made their beds and earned their reputations back in 1987 when they supported Twana Brawley, no questions asked, when she falsely accused and ruined reputations of 6 individuals that included policemen and a New York prosecutor. The accusations were so disgusting that I won't even repeat them here. You can read the details at the link I provide below where you'll also find an alarming parallel scenario to what's happening today.

Tawana Brawley rape allegations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

History repeated itself again in 2006 when Sharpton got involved with Crystal Gail Mangum who falsely accused 3 white players of the Duke LaCrosse team of rape, ruining the reputation those 3 men like happened in the Brawley case. Just click her name for details of that Sharpton gaffe!

You're absolutely right Skyguy. :mornincoffee: Note to Self - Have coffee before posting.

Have one for me too! :p

... oh, never mind. My wife just broght me one! :mornincoffee:

Advogado, No it does not mean that Zimmerman is guilty. I just stated that because his father is a judge (and he has been arrested before) that the police could indeed have known him and that he was not a complete stranger to him. Unlike some other opinions on here, I am not the judge and jury. I think that the American system of justice is a fair and equitable system unlike that of many other countries. However, I do not think that it is infallible.

Deaths that don't count.

Maybe some of those outraged by Martin's death can expend some outrage over these deaths.

Why isn't there any?

Deaths that don’t count? - NYPOST.com

I think that the answer to "Why isn't there any" isn't too hard to figure out. Those other deaths are not sensationalized by the media and civil rights activists like this case it. I also think that the last sentence of the article you gave a link to (not to say it applies to any comments on this thread) really hits a nail on the head.

Of course my question was rhetorical, but as usual you hit the nail squarely on the head by focusing on the last sentence of the article.

excellent.

Why let the absence of all the facts slow you down?
 

According to news reports, his dad was a judge in Virginia. So what's the relevance?

Also, the news reports state Zimmerman had been arrested for assaulting a police officer in 2005-- a fact that, if known to the officers on the scene, would have, in your view, endeared him to them?

There was an interesting article in the Daily Sun today about the effect that use of Martin's childhood photo, instead of the more threatening one of him sporting his gold grilles and a sleeveless tee shirt, had on public opinion in this case. It is interesting that the outdated photo continues to be used in most news stories, despite the availability to the more-recent one.

Incidentally, if you want to pick up a set of grilles for yourself, you can check the prices here: E Gold USA Inc - Removable Gold Teeth. And maybe pick up a set for yourself if you want to look like a drug dealer. However, they would seem to be unaffordable for most unemployed 17-year olds.

The title of this thread is Trayvon Martin, not murders around the country. Perhaps you should start another thread. I noticed that most of these crimes were solved and presume that the perpetrators will have a day in court. That's all that people are asking in this case.

Did the Daily Sun explain what the relevance of what Trayvon Martin looked like has to do with his murder?

If you don't see the relevance in the revolting circus revolving around the Martin case and the article I've posted, it's pointless of me to try to explain it to you.

If you think the investigation is moving too slowly, maybe you should run down to Sanford and join the lynching committee already in progress.

The only relevance to what Martin looked like is the fact that the media has only been showing a picture of a smiling 12 year old when Martin was an adult sized male.

It disingenuous; a word that perfectly suits all this hoopla.

The Trayvon Martin campaign is a classic example of how the Sharpton's of the world manipulate people by feigning a faux victim mentality. As long as there are blacks that believe they are victims america will never get passed the issue of racism. The Sharpton and thelike continue to this faux belief in order to maintain status with the balck community . They create a need where one does not exist.