[CMANN]

Originally Posted by buggyone

Zimmerman should have thought about consequences BEFORE following Martin with a pistol.

Yes, it does suck to be Zimmerman right now. Even if found not guilty, he will probably have to move and change his name to begin over somewhere else.

However, it is his own stupid fault for following Martin with a pistol.

I suppose by your logic Martin was a dumbass for picking a fight with a man with a pistol.

Time will tell.

[De Lis]

Through this whole mess, I don't believe that I have read any articles regarding the taking away of guns from a Community Watch person. Why not?

Do our C. W. people in The Villages carry them? Someone please respond ASAP!

[PennBF]

Look up "Tawana Brawley"..This is Brawley all over again. Ruining reputations and persons lives by the Press and the rable rousers. It is amazing that history repeats itself so easily.

[manaboutown]

Check out these statements from Martin's parents . Trayvon Martin mom Sybrina Fulton on Zimmerman shooting:

It seems the mainstream media is still using the years old photo of an apparently prepubescent Trayvon Martin although they have replaced the old police mugshot of George Zimmerman.

[BobKat1]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Check out these statements from Martin's parents . Trayvon Martin mom Sybrina Fulton on Zimmerman shooting:

It seems the mainstream media is still using the years old photo of an apparently prepubescent Trayvon Martin although they have replaced the old police mugshot of George Zimmerman.

I get a kick out of the photos that are shown on the news. One report will have angelic Trayvon and evil looking George. Then another report has menacing Trayvon with clean cut George. The circus continues.

[PennBF]

At the time of Brawley they published pictures of her with her head on her mothers lap,etc and the rable rousers using that to show the terrible effect on the parents. In the end it was all just an attempt to lead the public into some form of sympathy and away from the real facts. Sound familiar?

[buggyone]

Originally Posted by PennBF

At the time of Brawley they published pictures of her with her head on her mothers lap,etc and the rable rousers using that to show the terrible effect on the parents. In the end it was all just an attempt to lead the public into some form of sympathy and away from the real facts. Sound familiar?

...and there should not be sympathy for Trayvon Martin's family? Their son was killed! Whether or not it was justified legally, their 17 year old son is dead.

And "away from the real facts". We do not know the real facts yet in this terrible incident. We only have Zimmerman's account. Is there more? Wait and see without jumping to conclusions on either side.

[Advogado]

Originally Posted by BobKat1

I get a kick out of the photos that are shown on the news. One report will have angelic Trayvon and evil looking George. Then another report has menacing Trayvon with clean cut George. The circus continues.

Let's just hope that the trial isn't televised.

[Taltarzac725]

Let's give the prosecutors in this case the benefit of the doubt. They have a duty to actually present the case to the best of their ability based upon the facts they have. They took their time arresting Zimmerman so they must think they have a pretty good case against Zimmerman. http://sa18.state.fl.us/general/duties.htm

A jury could still find him innocent or a judge could dismiss the case.

Let's just wait and see if the system works.

Prosecutor's ethics (3.8)-- http://www.law.cornell.edu/ethics/fl/narr/ http://www.law.cornell.edu/ethics/fl..._3.HTM#3.8:300

[twinklesweep]

Trayvon Martin shooting spurs protests against companies with ties to legislative group - The Washington Post

Originally Posted by skyguy79

.... What it seems that way too many people don't understand is that under the US Justice System of our country, a person is ALWAYS presumed innocent until proven guilty, and so far there had not been a shred of "evidence" made public that can lead to that conclusion... just opinions, fabrications and conjectures! It's time for the justice system to be allowed to do their job without extreme intimidations and for the media and public figures to be scrutinized and held financially responsible for inflammatory comments like I heard on the TV yesterday where a reporter referred to Zimmerman as a "murderer" instead of an alleged murderer! Whatever happened to the use of the word alleged before someone is found guilty of something?

I said something along these lines a while back. The only facts are that Zimmerman had a gun and Martin is dead. Everything else is more than just "opinions, fabrications and conjectures." It's also politics and racism, as can clearly be seen in some of the comments made earlier. We are not obliged to accept a self-serving media focusing on its own bottom line, and at the same time we do need to accept and respect the justice system (whether in the end we agree with it or not) because it's what we have in this great country of ours.

[paulandjean]

Very glad George Zimmerman is in jail.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

Very glad George Zimmerman is in jail.

He is probably a lot safer there because of all the hatred directed at him due to the strained race relations coming out of this murder. It was a murder. We will just have to wait and see and get all the facts before determining if the murder was a justified one.

Really do not like that Stand Your Ground law though. Belongs more in 1812 than 2012.

[redwitch]

Tal, there are pluses and minuses to the stand your ground law. Sadly, it is one of the main reasons I moved to Florida. Some will use it as an excuse to be a "man", to not have to back down, to claim self-defense regardless of the actual fear or danger. Some will use it to protect themselves in the true sense that the law was created.

I think Zimmerman's defense will hinge largely on the autopsy and the trajectory of the bullet. I would guess that the path of the bullet will tell us a lot, at least I hope so.

I was and am firmly behind the idea that Zimmerman should have been arrested and charged with something. I have yet to see anything that changes my mind that the Sanford Police Department did their job. At most, there was a cursory and perfunctory examination of the event. Witnesses were barely, if at all, interviewed. To me, that has always been the biggest issue. Not a race issue, not even the fact that a young man died. The simple fact that a police department did not do its job and justice was not being served. Hopefully, now all facts will come out and a reasoned verdict can be determined. I think that's what the Martins were asking for.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by redwitch

Tal, there are pluses and minuses to the stand your ground law. Sadly, it is one of the main reasons I moved to Florida. Some will use it as an excuse to be a "man", to not have to back down, to claim self-defense regardless of the actual fear or danger. Some will use it to protect themselves in the true sense that the law was created.

I think Zimmerman's defense will hinge largely on the autopsy and the trajectory of the bullet. I would guess that the path of the bullet will tell us a lot, at least I hope so.

I was and am firmly behind the idea that Zimmerman should have been arrested and charged with something. I have yet to see anything that changes my mind that the Sanford Police Department did their job. At most, there was a cursory and perfunctory examination of the event. Witnesses were barely, if at all, interviewed. To me, that has always been the biggest issue. Not a race issue, not even the fact that a young man died. The simple fact that a police department did not do its job and justice was not being served. Hopefully, now all facts will come out and a reasoned verdict can be determined. I think that's what the Martins were asking for.

I had heard that too from some lawyers discussing this on some channels. Think it was Alan Dershowitz and Patricia Cornwell who were discussing what the forensics might show. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alan-d...b_1418441.html http://piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com/201...n-martin-case/

That police department does have some history with shoddy investigations.

I understand why you would defend the Stand Your Ground Law. It does make sense in various situations. Wish they could have written it a little better though. http://articles.businessinsider.com/...ent-commission

[RichieLion]

Originally Posted by redwitch

Tal, there are pluses and minuses to the stand your ground law. Sadly, it is one of the main reasons I moved to Florida. Some will use it as an excuse to be a "man", to not have to back down, to claim self-defense regardless of the actual fear or danger. Some will use it to protect themselves in the true sense that the law was created.

I think Zimmerman's defense will hinge largely on the autopsy and the trajectory of the bullet. I would guess that the path of the bullet will tell us a lot, at least I hope so.

I was and am firmly behind the idea that Zimmerman should have been arrested and charged with something. I have yet to see anything that changes my mind that the Sanford Police Department did their job. At most, there was a cursory and perfunctory examination of the event. Witnesses were barely, if at all, interviewed. To me, that has always been the biggest issue. Not a race issue, not even the fact that a young man died. The simple fact that a police department did not do its job and justice was not being served. Hopefully, now all facts will come out and a reasoned verdict can be determined. I think that's what the Martins were asking for.

Great article on this case and the charges brought against Mr. Zimmerman in this article by Andrew McCarthy, if you haven't seen the link in the other thread devoted to this incident.

Martin Case Affidavit - By Andrew C. McCarthy - The Corner - National Review Online