[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

CMAN---Trayvon not 6"3 or 6"4 --- 6'0 160 lbs thin skinny kid

A 17 year old kid mature enough to have a good growth of facial hair, 3" taller than Zimmerman and physically strong enough to be on top of Zimmerman beating the crap out of him; a kid who bragged about bashing a bus driver on his facebook postings; a kid on his third suspension from school; a kid whose backpack when opened by a school security guard contained a bag of assorted women's jewelry and a burglary tool.

[Advogado]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

CMAN---Trayvon not 6"3 or 6"4 --- 6'0 160 lbs thin skinny kid

The perception that Martin was a "kid" seems to have originated with the media's constant use of his angelic childhood photos rather than his more-menacing recent ones. If you put a 17-year-old in a uniform and give him a gun, he is no kid; he is a "soldier", whose job is killing people and breaking things.

My point is: The fact that Martin was 17 is irrelevant. He either deserved to be shot or he didn't. I have no opinion on that since I don't have all the facts, and neither do you.

[buggyone]

Innocent or guilty - Zimmerman's life will never be the same. He will either go to prison or live with an assumed identity somewhere and will lead the life of a fugitive for fear of being found by those who hate him.

Hopefully, his tragic incident will be a lesson to other drug store cowboys or wannabe policemen.

[Advogado]

Originally Posted by buggyone

Innocent or guilty - Zimmerman's life will never be the same. He will either go to prison or live with an assumed identity somewhere and will lead the life of a fugitive for fear of being found by those who hate him.

Hopefully, his tragic incident will be a lesson to other drug store cowboys or wannabe policemen.

And, if Zimmerman is acquitted, the incident will also be a lesson to hoodlums and muggers.

[paulandjean]

Poor Zimmmerman,Lets strike up the band for him,his life will never be the same,he will have to change his name.people will be after him.Good for him.Thats what happens when you pull a gun out and kill someone.You guys must have never seen a fight in your life. One person describes Zimmerman with his head bash in,unreal.At 17 you still are a kid,young kid ,schoolkid whatever.Zimmerman 3 inches shorter but weight higher.Lets see,follow a teenager in a truck,then follow on foot,and you come face to face,he punches me I shoot him. What did Zimmerman say,"But I called for help and no one came"Lame.He must be pretty stupid. Sure he had no sense dealing with teenagers.Did any of you guys ever have a fight as a teenager,I do not think so.No doubt in my mind Zimmerman will be going to jail. That where he belongs.

[paulandjean]

The fact is a school kid is dead.

[ceejay]

Originally Posted by buggyone

Innocent or guilty - Zimmerman's life will never be the same. He will either go to prison or live with an assumed identity somewhere and will lead the life of a fugitive for fear of being found by those who hate him.

Hopefully, his tragic incident will be a lesson to other drug store cowboys or wannabe policemen.

I think we can all agree that George Zimmerman's life will never be the same regardless of the outcome of the investigation.

[ceejay]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

The fact is a school kid is dead.

You are 100% correct...a school kid is dead.

But until the investigation is complete, however, the fact is none of us have all the facts.

We can speculate all we want, but until those speculations are proven as facts, George Zimmerman is innocent until proven guilty.

[Advogado]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

The fact is a school kid is dead.

Is that worse than Zimmerman's being dead? I don't know, because I don't have all the facts surrounding the incident, and neither do you. Why the rush to convict?

[Patty55]

Hate to muddle anyone's thought process with facts, but they released documents in the case yesterday-gotta love the Florida Sunshine Laws. Here ya'll go...

Angela-Corey-Speech_Page_1

On page 1 the Special Proscecutor refers to the Martin family as "those sweet parents". What is with that? Maybe it's a Southern Thang.

If anyone would like to further muddle their thinking Richard Hornsby had some interesting thoughts

Legally, Who Was the First Aggressor? – bLAWg, bLOG, BLAHg

[disney07]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

Poor Zimmmerman,Lets strike up the band for him,his life will never be the same,he will have to change his name.people will be after him.Good for him.Thats what happens when you pull a gun out and kill someone.You guys must have never seen a fight in your life. One person describes Zimmerman with his head bash in,unreal.At 17 you still are a kid,young kid ,schoolkid whatever.Zimmerman 3 inches shorter but weight higher.Lets see,follow a teenager in a truck,then follow on foot,and you come face to face,he punches me I shoot him. What did Zimmerman say,"But I called for help and no one came"Lame.He must be pretty stupid. Sure he had no sense dealing with teenagers.Did any of you guys ever have a fight as a teenager,I do not think so.No doubt in my mind Zimmerman will be going to jail. That where he belongs.

Lame! You got that right. Thank you for the verdict.

[buggyone]

Originally Posted by Advogado

And, if Zimmerman is acquitted, the incident will also be a lesson to hoodlums and muggers.

A lesson to hoodlums and muggers? What are you talking about? Trayvon Martin was walking to his aunt's home returning from a convenience store when this happened. A man (Zimmerman) was following him on a rainy night. Martin confronted the man to ask what was going on - according to Zimmerman.

What do hoodlums and muggers have to do with that situation?

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

A 17 year old kid mature enough to have a good growth of facial hair, 3" taller than Zimmerman and physically strong enough to be on top of Zimmerman beating the crap out of him; a kid who bragged about bashing a bus driver on his facebook postings; a kid on his third suspension from school; a kid whose backpack when opened by a school security guard contained a bag of assorted women's jewelry and a burglary tool.

Are these allegations documented facts, or media speculation or distortion? I'm not doubting you, please don't take this the wrong way. And I don't have an opinion in this case. I'm just curious.

[Taltarzac725]

George Zimmerman witnesses: Several George Zimmerman witnesses change their accounts - Orlando Sentinel

[skyc6]

I looked at his facebook pages before they were removed and he did brag about the bus driver. All of the pictures had him with groups of hooded guys giving the finger, looking very thug-like. Now all you see is his 12 year old smiling picture.
Young black males are murdered every night in this country, often by other black males in rival gangs, and they rarely make the news after the first night. This whole scenario has been orchestrated by Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, who have now left town, since it doesn't benefit them to stay now. Why don't they have anything to say about all of the other murders committed by young black youths?