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Old 05-16-2015, 10:01 AM
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The reality is that it costs the taxpayer more money to sentence a criminal to death than to keep him/her in prison for life due to the cost of incarceration coupled with legal fees and costs for the appeals process. Therefore if one is primarily interested in saving the taxpayer money, life imprisonment is the way to go.
Actually studies show that it costs between one half and one million dollars more to prosecute and defend a case a death penalty case as opposed to a case where life in prison with out parole is brought.

Costs of the Death Penalty | Death Penalty Information Center

What is not mentioned is the cost of about $30,000 per year to incarcerate an inmate.

https://www.federalregister.gov/arti...-incarceration

Tsarnaev is 21 years old. We can expect him to live another 57 years. That's $1.7 million not allowing for inflation. I would expect that the cost of incarceration will increase every year so we're talking about a lot more than $2 million to incarcerate this guy.
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"Denise and Bill Richard, mother and father of Martin, 8, said in a letter published in a Boston newspaper that while they do not speak for all the victims of the attacks they would prefer that Tsarnaev be sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole and waive of all of his appeals.

"We understand all too well the heinousness and brutality of the crimes committed. We were there. We lived it. The defendant murdered our 8-year-old son, maimed our 7-year-old daughter, and stole part of our soul.

We know that the government has its reasons for seeking the death penalty, but the continued pursuit of that punishment could bring years of appeals and prolong reliving the most painful day of our lives. We hope our two remaining children do not have to grow up with the lingering, painful reminder of what the defendant took from them, which years of appeals would undoubtedly bring," said the Richards in the letter.
When I first read this statement by innocent little Martin's parents a few weeks ago, I remember that news outlet's analysts of death penalty appeals in this country reported that the average minimum years of death penalty appeals processes going on is 16 years.

I think allowing AND PAYING FOR 16+ years of lawyering, and taxpayers paying for the likely law-school education/degree of the convict in prison, makes a mockery of all that the justice system and dedicated jurors have done and determined for disposition of the case.

Enough is enough.

Family of Martin Richard: We're against the death penalty for Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev | masslive.com
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"Denise and Bill Richard, mother and father of Martin, 8, said in a letter published in a Boston newspaper that while they do not speak for all the victims of the attacks they would prefer that Tsarnaev be sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole and waive of all of his appeals.

"We understand all too well the heinousness and brutality of the crimes committed. We were there. We lived it. The defendant murdered our 8-year-old son, maimed our 7-year-old daughter, and stole part of our soul.

We know that the government has its reasons for seeking the death penalty, but the continued pursuit of that punishment could bring years of appeals and prolong reliving the most painful day of our lives. We hope our two remaining children do not have to grow up with the lingering, painful reminder of what the defendant took from them, which years of appeals would undoubtedly bring," said the Richards in the letter.
When I first read this statement by innocent little Martin's parents a few weeks ago, I remember that news outlet's analysts of death penalty appeals in this country reported that the average minimum years of death penalty appeals processes going on is 16 years.

I think allowing AND PAYING FOR 16+ years of lawyering, and taxpayers paying for the likely law-school education/degree of the convict in prison, makes a mockery of all that the justice system and dedicated jurors have done and determined for disposition of the case.

Enough is enough.

Family of Martin Richard: We're against the death penalty for Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev | masslive.com
The cost of the trials in dollars is a bit higher for a death penalty case, but the cost of incarceration for 50+ years would be more.

In one way, I respect our system and realize that everyone deserves justice, but on the other hand, some case are so obvious that the appeals system really should be limited.

The fact that appeals are automatic when someone pleads guilty to first degree murder is, to me, absurd. The fact that when the facts of a trial like this are obvious that appeals are allowed is absurd. Appeals should only be allowed if there was some sort of problem with the trial.
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The cost of the trials in dollars is a bit higher for a death penalty case, but the cost of incarceration for 50+ years would be more.

In one way, I respect our system and realize that everyone deserves justice, but on the other hand, some case are so obvious that the appeals system really should be limited.

The fact that appeals are automatic when someone pleads guilty to first degree murder is, to me, absurd. The fact that when the facts of a trial like this are obvious that appeals are allowed is absurd. Appeals should only be allowed if there was some sort of problem with the trial.
To me, it's not the cost in dollars and cents.

It is the cost to our nation as rational, logical thought, based in law and fact, is relegated to the trash heap in favor of feel-good-psychology enabling of murderers and terrorists, to somehow prove one's "tolerance" and "open-mindedness" and "fairness".

In fact, such enablers are the antithesis of "fair" or "just".
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I have a simple question for those in favor of the death penalty. The question is "would you pull the switch". If not then you have no position on the subject. I know I could not pull the switch and therefore I could not vote for it nor should I ever serve on a jury that is hearing a death penalty case. It is easy to vote for the penalty but not have to execute the act It is another to vote for it and be willing to pull the switch.


Yes....

"Let the punishment fit the crime", too bad he can only be sentenced to death once....

His photo pretty much says it all.....and this was well after the bombing.

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Old 05-18-2015, 12:57 PM
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I have a simple question for those in favor of the death penalty. The question is "would you pull the switch". If not then you have no position on the subject. I know I could not pull the switch and therefore I could not vote for it nor should I ever serve on a jury that is hearing a death penalty case. It is easy to vote for the penalty but not have to execute the act It is another to vote for it and be willing to pull the switch.
OK, I'll play that silly game.
Here's a simple question for those "pro choice" folks. Are you willing to perform a partial birth abortion? No? Then I guess you have no position on the subject.

We could extend it to the Space Program. Are you ready to become an astronaut? No? Hmmm... there goes that program.

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