[fdpaq0580]

[QUOTE=Princeton;2345786]I’m up in the air on this one. no pun intended. I do wonder why the government had to change it from UFO to UAP. They always have to stick their nose into everything. I saw the testimonies. I saw the footage and I still have trouble believing.

UFO=Unidentified Flying Object, Is a smaller range of possibilities than UAP=Unidentified Aerial Phenomena. UAP opens the door for things that don't "fly" in the conventional way, like a plane. Things that seem to float or hover, odd lights or clouds, mirages, meteors and other things that appear in the sky that may defy a logical explanation. I have seen UAPs several times. But I never attributed/equated them to extraterrestrials. Just odd things in the sky that I had no answer for.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by jimbomaybe

I am a skeptic, why would the different "Earth" governments hide this information ? From what little I have seen there are reports of numerous ET visits, given the size of the universe , the distances involved why are we so popular ?

Popular? They just discovered a unique and primitive species. Of course we are Popular. Like finding a living family of squabbling pterodactyl. Everbody out there can't wait to get a look at us. Smile! You're on candid extraterrestrial camera. 👽👽👽👾👾🤖🤖👹👹👹

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by jimbomaybe

I am a skeptic, why would the different "Earth" governments hide this information ? From what little I have seen there are reports of numerous ET visits, given the size of the universe , the distances involved why are we so popular ?

Klaatu.
Barada.
Nikto.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Klaatu.
Barada.
Nikto.

If only ....
🖖👽 Thanks, pal. But if we can't get our s--t together, we probably will do neither. 😞

[defrey12]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Cannot see why any intelligent space travellers would want to have anything to do with us unless we become a threat after technological advances allow us to travel further out into space. Intelligent life would keep a distance and just watch with as few contacts as possible.

…unless they need an organic food source.

[Tnbrewer]

Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko

Okay, now that a billion dollar industry has been made out of this fraud, it highlites
the gullability and paranoia of the American people........... so the goal is to create commerce thru non truths.............. and many will jump on board for the financial ride and the entertainment of it all.

Now that there are 1 billion, at least, camera phones in the world these sightings have stopped. hmmm

Never mind, Big Foot and the Lochness monster.......the tragedy here is that people are gullible to believe anything with even a small pebble of truth wrapped into fields of lies. Does the government really posses a flying saucer and dead alien bodies.

Please chime in with your experiences on ufo's and aliens and I am not talking about the younger generation. As we look back in time we realize how naive we really were. Will we ever get over that or are we just looking to convince someone else of something stupid for a laugh............

Many in The Villages have seen UFO
All the locations with nukes have been visited! A SAC base I was at was visited in 1975

Just because you think they are not real is what the government wants u to do!


There are many pictures of them you have to look for them as the comprises to the not real free speech keeps them off local news

See Steven Greer on YouTube or Netflix he is one of many from the last 50+ years!

[jimbomaybe]

Originally Posted by Tnbrewer

Many in The Villages have seen UFO
All the locations with nukes have been visited! A SAC base I was at was visited in 1975

Just because you think they are not real is what the government wants u to do!


There are many pictures of them you have to look for them as the comprises to the not real free speech keeps them off local news

See Steven Greer on YouTube or Netflix he is one of many from the last 50+ years!

And the group/agency responsible for hiding this "truth" fly around in black helicopters

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by Battlebasset

I don't believe that ANYTHING is possible, I mean, Taylor Swift isn't going to ask me out, but I'm willing to state that there are any number of things that are not possible now, but might be later, based on scientific advancements.

But in the absence of any evidence as I've described, plus the issues with vast distances, light speed travel, much less faster than light travel, I can only draw one conclusion - we have never been visited by intelligent alien life.

Happy to be proven wrong. But no one has managed to do it yet.

I agree with you that we haven't been visited by aliens, for the same reasons.
but that is not about what i was disagreeing with you.

[ThirdOfFive]

Anybody remember an original Twilight Zone episode "To Serve Man".

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by Tobys Dad

Gullible people attend religious services daily.

Why is your faith based belief the only correct one but others are gullible for their faith based beliefs?

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by Battlebasset

But in the absence of any evidence as I've described...

Anyone with any sort of appreciation of knowledge of science know that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

As an aside:
If naturalistic evolution is correct, there must be other intelligent life out there in our own galaxy. Most would be far, far older races than humanity simply due to our stat being so young.

Assuming no race could ever figure out to to bypass the speed of light with a million extra years to figure it out is silly. A great many scientists claimed it was impossible to break the speed of sound... obviously wrong. Good thing others did not prescribe to their faith based belief. Just like I am glad others do not prescribe to yours.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by CybrSage

As an aside:
If naturalistic evolution is correct, there must be other intelligent life out there in our own galaxy. Most would be far, far older races than humanity simply due to our stat being so young.

I went to a very small audience talk by Carl Sagan whilst in high school. I asked him if life existed on other planets in the universe. . He said "Yes" I will take that answer over everyone else's answers that we are the only ones in existence.

as far as alien space time travel. . . all lovers of science fiction.. . .

[michgary]

It is not uncommon for older individuals to be incapable of understanding new concepts that attempt to explain reality. In fact it is the norm. This thread case in point.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Anybody remember an original Twilight Zone episode "To Serve Man".

Of course. Gives a new twist to BBQ ribs. Humans taste like pork. Ah, or so I've been told. 😏😋👽

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by CybrSage

Anyone with any sort of appreciation of knowledge of science know that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

As an aside:
If naturalistic evolution is correct, there must be other intelligent life out there in our own galaxy. Most would be far, far older races than humanity simply due to our stat being so young.

Assuming no race could ever figure out to to bypass the speed of light with a million extra years to figure it out is silly. A great many scientists claimed it was impossible to break the speed of sound... obviously wrong. Good thing others did not prescribe to their faith based belief. Just like I am glad others do not prescribe to yours.

True. But I think the whole issue of alien encounters hinges on whether there is any possible way to achieve faster (and probably much faster) that light travel---whether it be wormholes/stargates, hyperspace/subspace, or warp drive. An extension of the Drake equation with all the new information from the Hubble and James Webb telescopes would suggest there are upwards of 40 TRILLION civilizations at least as advanced as ours in the observable universe. However, without FTL travel, the only ones that could ever interact with each other would be in the same solar system as each other.

Now, if FTL travel is possible and aliens were looking for other "intelligent" life, our only detectable signals are now only about 90 light years out, and quite faint at that. Five thousand years ago we were "dark". So now, on our little rock orbiting an insignificant star on the edge of one of the spiral arms of an insignificant galaxy, the aliens would have to have stumbled upon us, and curious enough not to be repulsed by our primitive behavior. The odds are pretty low when you put all this together. But in the unlikely case that it was true, it certainly would shed light on some of the mysteries of our past.