[bimmertl]

That's the answer, seize the passports of US citizens suspected of being terrorists. That would have stopped Douglas McAuthur McCain from San Diego, from joining ISIS and being killed last week. Certainly a known terrorist name by any account.

Last count I saw was 120 US bombing missions on ISIS. How many have the Brits flown? They have more UK citizens in ISIS than we do and say there is an imminent threat to the UK. So they are grabbing passports? Big deal. Don't they have the RAF?

As disgusting as the death of 2 Americans is, ISIS has killed thousands of people in their reign of terror. The vast majority are Muslims. So how do you feel about that? Ratio probably 800 to1 Muslims versus US citizens killed.

I slept extremely well last night!

[graciegirl]

Most of us are appropriately concerned. I imagine that the villager whose grandson was killed in the Boston Marathon bombing and whose little granddaughter had her leg blown off did not rest well.

[Rags123]

Originally Posted by bimmertl

That's the answer, seize the passports of US citizens suspected of being terrorists. That would have stopped Douglas McAuthur McCain from San Diego, from joining ISIS and being killed last week. Certainly a known terrorist name by any account.

Last count I saw was 120 US bombing missions on ISIS. How many have the Brits flown? They have more UK citizens in ISIS than we do and say there is an imminent threat to the UK. So they are grabbing passports? Big deal. Don't they have the RAF?

As disgusting as the death of 2 Americans is, ISIS has killed thousands of people in their reign of terror. The vast majority are Muslims. So how do you feel about that? Ratio probably 800 to1 Muslims versus US citizens killed.

I slept extremely well last night!

If the nationality of those murdered is the single most important thing to prompt action then we can relax until they get to us I suppose. WOW..no more worrying about the children of the world being murdered...Russia/Ukraine is not a problem any longer. We just wait until it is our turn.

And those christians murdered by them I suppose you are counting as Muslims to make your point ?

Thanks

[buggyone]

I would most certainly think that all US government facilities worldwide - and the military - are prepared for anything that may come on this Sept. 11 and will be standing by on the highest alert levels.

The NSA and other agencies will be listening to increased chatter levels and hopefully be prepared. It is not a good idea, in my opinion, to let it be known to the general public that increased chatter has been detected or how preparations are being made. Too much information gives the enemy the information, too.

If you still can't sleep, take an Ambien - but only one!

[Boudicca]

"I would most certainly think that all US government facilities worldwide - and the military - are prepared for anything that may come on this Sept. 11 and will be standing by on the highest alert levels. "
Wish I shared your confidence...historically our enemies have struck in the most original and dare I say unexpected/unanticipated ways imaginable. Time will tell

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by shrandell

"I would most certainly think that all US government facilities worldwide - and the military - are prepared for anything that may come on this Sept. 11 and will be standing by on the highest alert levels. "
Wish I shared your confidence...historically our enemies have struck in the most original and dare I say unexpected/unanticipated ways imaginable. Time will tell

This does not make sense. We are not being prepared? Yet are enemies strike in unexpected/unanticipated ways.........how do we prepare for that?
What do you propose? Or are you just rambling?

[Boudicca]

My post begins with "wish I shared your confidence ".

[samhass]

Originally Posted by billethkid

our system of politics does not include the citizenry as it does in the UK and many other countries of the civilized world.

Our politicians priorities, all of them, is getting re-elected and making sure thier donors and special interest groups are taken care of or not offended.

On the other hand we the people here are much more tolerable of the governments failings as evidenced by the continual re-election of do nothing, politics as usual, law makers. And all elected officials rely on the apathy and non reaction of the American people.....THEY COUNT ON IT and are rarely disappointed.

We the people get what we deserve/allow.

Well said, BTK.

[Rags123]

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[samhass]

Originally Posted by Rags123

As I read this thread, I see folks who are afraid....I see folks who choose to make light of that....I see folks who think that fear is the problem, not ISIS or any other group.

When something happens in the world that shocks us and awakens fear, we just automatically look to our leaders.

The common thread here is LACK of that leadership. Our President today sent mixed signals...saying at a press conference that we want to "degrade and destroy" the terror group -- but then said he wants to make it a "manageable problem." The Defense Secy is clear that we want to "destroy" ISIS, and we surely do not want to "contain" this group. Congress, even though it seems we want to blame them, can do NOTHING until they receive a plan to address and they have not yet received that.....even though they are calling for one.

and hearing things and looking for SOMEONE to step up....and lead.

Lessons learned in Iraq in 2003, no doubt, keeps us from rushing in...that is a good thing. BUT, until we get our act together....

Leadership is not about the next election, it's about the next generation.

Simon Sinek

Yes, leadership is about the next generation, but it is also about now. I am counting on this POTUS to execute a well thought out plan that considers all contingencies and exit strategies.
Germany is arming the Kurds. Al Qaeda has no use for ISIS, and world opinion is against them and their cause. I would not risk one more American soldier for these radicals that have fought for centuries. We have sent our troops into slaughter and trauma for people unwilling to stop ideological/theological wars amongst themselves. When will it end? It is so tempting to send in a Minotaur IV with an exciting payload and be done with it. Glass the place. Unfortunately, this scenario would only cause others to rise up to resume the fight. All we can do is hope that the think tanks can work out a solution for this horrible mess...if there is a solution.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Posts like this will get/should get, this thread closed!
How much more political can it get?

How is it possible for a subject of this nature to be discussed if ANY reference is labeled political.

I am glad the admin has allowed these discussions to continue as much as they have.

I am also glad they do not respond to the onsey/twosey that request a thread be closed when their personal aspect MAY be affected.

Facts of any matter do cross one or another's alignment, however the discussion needs to be continued to allow understanding and educating.

Some of us need to be able to discuss those things in the world that may affect us all at some time in the near future. Put away the red or the blue flag waving and let's DEBATE what we think we know. And be adult enough to take as well as recieve without crying foul!!

NO STRUGGLE.....NO PROGRESS!!!!

[Polar Bear]

Personally, I think this thread has done a reasonably good job of steering clear of pure politics. Discussion of meaningful issues that have real, significant effects on the world does not automatically equate to politics.

Most times politics is the furthest thing from reality. The ISIS threat is very real.

[Chi-Town]

Weighing in a little late on this as golf and dinner beckoned.
Besides the usual back and forth what caught my attention is when a Muslim took umbrage at a photo of an overflow crowd praying outside their house of worship being portrayed in a negative way and then being badgered does not seem what Americans are all about.

[Christine G]

Watch BBC World News or BBC online and then you will have the unbiased stuff, straight from the horse's mouth so to speak. Nothing distorted for television viewing, PM Cameron gave a strong speech and let the public know what is happening, and that is how it should be.

[sunnyatlast]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

Weighing in a little late on this as golf and dinner beckoned.
Besides the usual back and forth what caught my attention is when a Muslim took umbrage at a photo of an overflow crowd praying outside their house of worship be being portrayed in a negative way and then being badgered does not seem what Americans are all about.

How is blocking traffic in London while waving the Al Qaeda flag not "negative"?

And how are they not "badgering" Jews and other non-muslims with this??

July 29, 2014 -- London: Anti-Israel Muslims block traffic, wave al-Qaeda flag

London: Anti-Israel Muslims block traffic...