[ithos]

DeSantis signs bill making Florida second state to ban fluoride from its water system - ABC News

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Conclusions: NTP concludes that fluoride is presumed to be a cognitive neurodevelopmental hazard to humans. This conclusion is based on a consistent pattern of findings in human studies across several different populations showing that higher fluoride exposure is associated with decreased IQ or other cognitive impairments in children.

Systematic review of epidemiological and toxicological evidence on health effects of fluoride in drinking water - PubMed
Why I Changed My Mind on Water Fluoridation

[HappyTraveler]

Originally Posted by ithos

DeSantis signs bill making Florida second state to ban fluoride from its water system - ABC News

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Agreed that this is long overdue. There's a very strong argument that it was always big brother over-reach. We'll handle our own dental care.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by ithos

DeSantis signs bill making Florida second state to ban fluoride from its water system - ABC News

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Conclusions: NTP concludes that fluoride is presumed to be a cognitive neurodevelopmental hazard to humans. This conclusion is based on a consistent pattern of findings in human studies across several different populations showing that higher fluoride exposure is associated with decreased IQ or other cognitive impairments in children.

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Why I Changed My Mind on Water Fluoridation

Interesting to read the articles and the study once I found the correct link. Doesn’t say quite what confirmation bias asserts.

[Buckeyephan]

Well, none of my three kids had any cavities. When my sister and I went to the dentist as children, it wasn’t a question of if we had any cavities. It was how many. My niece lives in the country and has a well. Her children took fluoride supplements. I understand they want to ban those, too.

[tophcfa]

When I asked my dentist about banning fluoride she said she thought it was a very bad idea. She said it’s always better for her patients to prevent cavities than to have to pay her to fix them.

[ithos]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Interesting to read the articles and the study once I found the correct link. Doesn’t say quite what confirmation bias asserts.

Sorry about that.
Systematic review of epidemiological and toxicological evidence on health effects of fluoride in drinking water - PubMed

[shaw8700@outlook.com]

I was disappointed when I read this. I don’t know why RFK is against fluoride.

[ithos]

Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com

I was disappointed when I read this. I don’t know why RFK is against fluoride.

Because it has significant risks including reduced IQ and Fluorosis.

Fluorosis can happen if you ingest too much fluoride over a long period of time. Dental fluorosis causes tooth discoloration. You can correct it with cosmetic treatment. Skeletal fluorosis affects your bones and joints. It can cause pain, stiffness and bone deformities. Treatment involves removing the source of fluoride and managing symptoms.
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/healt...3227-fluorosis

[Battlebasset]

Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com

I was disappointed when I read this. I don’t know why RFK is against fluoride.

Fluoride in water came about when fluoride in toothpaste was just starting as well. If you are using fluoride toothpaste, fluoride rinse, and fluoride treatments from your dentist, your teeth are getting plenty. And seeing that is the only part of your body that benefits from fluoride, why expose any other part when there are concerns about its safety?

FYI I live in Sumter. They already don't add fluoride.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by ithos

Because it has significant risks including reduced IQ and Fluorosis.

Fluorosis can happen if you ingest too much fluoride over a long period of time. Dental fluorosis causes tooth discoloration. You can correct it with cosmetic treatment. Skeletal fluorosis affects your bones and joints. It can cause pain, stiffness and bone deformities. Treatment involves removing the source of fluoride and managing symptoms.
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/healt...3227-fluorosis

From the same article:

In the United States, many areas have water with fluoride levels below 0.7 mg/L. That’s why so many local governments add it to the drinking water. But in other regions of the world, like parts of Asia and Africa, natural groundwater contains excessive amounts of fluoride. In India, the average concentration in drinking water is around 2.37 mg/L, and the highest recorded level is 9.22 mg/L. People living in these areas are far more likely to develop fluorosis compared to people living in the U.S

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Battlebasset

Fluoride in water came about when fluoride in toothpaste was just starting as well. If you are using fluoride toothpaste, fluoride rinse, and fluoride treatments from your dentist, your teeth are getting plenty. And seeing that is the only part of your body that benefits from fluoride, why expose any other part when there are concerns about its safety?

FYI I live in Sumter. They already don't add fluoride.

They don't add fluoride to the water here in Lady Lake either. I do notice though there are a LOT more dentists in both counties, compared with Connecticut. Dentists LOVE areas where there's no fluoride added to the water. They make more money with fillings, cracked teeth, enamel loss, and root canals.

I have gum disease and bone loss in my jaw. It's mostly genetic. But my teeth are in great shape, haven't had cavities in over a decade and I think I've had a total of four cavities in my entire life. Our area had fluoridated water.

[Arctic Fox]

Originally Posted by Battlebasset

Fluoride in water came about when fluoride in toothpaste was just starting as well. If you are using fluoride toothpaste, fluoride rinse, and fluoride treatments from your dentist, your teeth are getting plenty.

And there's the problem.

If people had just stuck with drinking the water then the fluoride was doing a great job. But they fell for the marketing hype of the toothpaste manufacturers, the rinse manufacturers and their dentists and assumed that if a small amount of something was good then a large amount was excellent.

I suspect that most people in TV are relatively well-off and can afford all of these "extras", but for many people the fluoride in the drinking water is the only fluoride that they are getting.

[Tathom]

But ppl don’t drink the fluoridated mouthrinses and don’t ingest their toothpaste, only marginally if not spitting well . Good luck with the dental exam !

[Berwin]

So, how did we come to put fluoride in our water? Scientists eventually noticed that in some regions, people had fewer cavities than in other regions. After looking for why this was, it was discovered that those regions where people had fewer cavities had natural fluoride in the water. Doing more research, it turns out that fluoride makes teeth stronger and therefore more resistant to cavities. So, municipalities started adding fluoride to the drinking water and the rate of cavities dropped significantly. I'm 70 and have had only one cavity - which occurred when I was living overseas for four years serving in the Army.

[MandoMan]

Originally Posted by ithos

DeSantis signs bill making Florida second state to ban fluoride from its water system - ABC News

Long past due:

Conclusions: NTP concludes that fluoride is presumed to be a cognitive neurodevelopmental hazard to humans. This conclusion is based on a consistent pattern of findings in human studies across several different populations showing that higher fluoride exposure is associated with decreased IQ or other cognitive impairments in children.

Systematic review of epidemiological and toxicological evidence on health effects of fluoride in drinking water - PubMed
Why I Changed My Mind on Water Fluoridation

That was an interesting video. Meanwhile, most of us brush our teeth with fluoride toothpaste, and I don’t spit—I swallow. Also, when our teeth are cleaned, the dentist recommends painting our teeth with fluoride mixed with something like lacquer that wears off in a day but puts a lot of fluoride right on the teeth. Thus, banning fluoridated water won’t keep my teeth from being fluoridated. (Some bottled water is also fluoridated.)

There are certainly a lot of kids in Fluorida who aren’t all that bright and who really need every IQ point they can get. However, their IQs will be much higher if their parents work at raising them. My parents read to my siblings and I every day for an hour or more. I was encouraged to read challenging books daily as soon as I could read. I grew up around interesting grown-up conversation, and dinner was the time to not only eat but discuss ideas and world affairs. Restricting cell phone and computer and video game use and television and sports and requiring study of many subjects will raise scores on IQ tests. By the way, the IQ tests reported were given to kids who were 3-4, and that’s an age when intense home education effort from parents really pays off.