[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Yes we read about their deaths every day………….

And we also read about the deaths of those wearing a seat belt. What's your point. It was their decision to not wear a seat belt and the gov should not decide otherwise. The gov should stay out of other folks' business. If you wish to suggest that other folks getting injured causes a raise in your health insurance, fine then someone should also put a stop to all of these FREE roof replacements that have caused my home owner's insurance to double.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Velvet

Children should never be the victim of their parents.

And yet women are killing their unwanted unborn all the time. It's their "right."

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

You miss the entire point of Universal Masking. Hit and miss masking will not cut it. THIS is why masking has not worked for us here in the US. The compliance was non existent. If half the children wear masks, that will not be effective. Might as well have none of the kids wear a mask unless they are protective masks such as the N95 masks.

Remember........."your mask protects me and my mask protects you" That will not work is some parents do not make their child wear a mask. Masks should be MANDATED, no ifs ands or buts about it.

And yet, you admit that you do not wear a mask. Some folks would call that being a hypocrite.
And do not tell me that you can do that because you are vaccinated. Children seem to have just as much resistance to the virus as the vaccinated seniors.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Byte1

I see that you had a change of heart regarding masks. I believe you were the one that suggested or stated that masks were almost useless. Now you are advocating for mask mandates?

Not really. Based on a lot of data, I still believe masks are relatively useless except in a few settings. Outdoors----useless except in a rugby huddle. Riding alone---useless. However, indoors when social distancing cannot be guaranteed around unvaccinated or immunocompromised people they will do some good.

School kids under 12 haven't been vaccinated, therefore I agree with masking when they are in the classroom or on the bus, even though the mortality rate in this group is low. I see no reason for a mask on the playground.

I generally hate "mandates" but in this case I can't see leaving a decision that affects the health of a whole school to individual parents who do not possess the expertise required. A local school board is no smarter either. That's why I advocate a state or national mandate for masks in school classrooms and busses for those under 12 until the children's version of the vaccines are approved. As far as parents who will refuse to have their kids vaccinated, place them in a "basket of deplorables" but congratulate them for enhancing the gene pool.

[rsmurano]

For the people that are scared of this whole Covid thing and they think you are going to die if you go outside, check this out from a leaked video conference of a meeting from a hospital:
https://mobile.twitter.com/NationalF...66927703138308

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Not really. Based on a lot of data, I still believe masks are relatively useless except in a few settings. Outdoors----useless except in a rugby huddle. Riding alone---useless. However, indoors when social distancing cannot be guaranteed around unvaccinated or immunocompromised people they will do some good.

School kids under 12 haven't been vaccinated, therefore I agree with masking when they are in the classroom or on the bus, even though the mortality rate in this group is low. I see no reason for a mask on the playground.

I generally hate "mandates" but in this case I can't see leaving a decision that affects the health of a whole school to individual parents who do not possess the expertise required. A local school board is no smarter either. That's why I advocate a state or national mandate for masks in school classrooms and busses for those under 12 until the children's version of the vaccines are approved. As far as parents who will refuse to have their kids vaccinated, place them in a "basket of deplorables" but congratulate them for enhancing the gene pool.

Didn't you say that using anything other than a N95 was basically useless? Not trying to argue, but it does seem that you have been very adamant about useless paper and cloth masks in the past.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Lower because of masks......indisputable.

Completely disputable...

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Didn't you say that using anything other than a N95 was basically useless? Not trying to argue, but it does seem that you have been very adamant about useless paper and cloth masks in the past.

I don't think so, I'm pretty sure I've been consistent in stating that their only use was indoors when social distancing could not be guaranteed. If not, my apologies

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

How about it-----you mean turn our best health care in the world into another European type crap socialist program where you die waiting for care???? No thanks.

Presactly!

[Byte1]

I'm sorry but I cannot agree with mandating masks for children as that would disenfranchise minorities just like voter ID.
Yes, that is me being facetious. Kind of hard to take this subject seriously when those that advocate such a preposterous idea have no skin in the game.
Someone mentioned raising taxes for the school system. I've seen that done in the past, as an example the lottery in which all the money was supposed to go to the school system. What actually happened is that very little money goes to schools and the rest goes to what the state decides to spend it on.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I don't think so, I'm pretty sure I've been consistent in stating that their only use was indoors when social distancing could not be guaranteed. If not, my apologies

No apology warranted. Perhaps I misunderstood.

[Chase219]

No Interest

[mady101]

Originally Posted by Joe C.

If your eyeglasses fog up when wearing a mask, you might be eligible for condensation.

Now that’s funny.

[toeser]

"A mask mandate for children in school is necessary to slow the spread of this Covid virus."

That's all it will do, is slow it somewhat. Masks (I wear one) are for transitory contact. They help you in grocery stores, brief meetings, etc. They will do next to nothing to stop the spread when people are sitting a few feet from each other for hours per day five days a week. Some schools have even mandated masks for outdoor sports like track. There is ZERO science for requiring something so stupid.

Google "phycological effects of child masking" and read a few articles. Perhaps you will change your mind.

[lkagele]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

As far as parents who will refuse to have their kids vaccinated, place them in a "basket of deplorables" but congratulate them for enhancing the gene pool.

You're kinda assuming that any child not getting a vaccine will die. I think a case could be made that children would be better off catching COVID rather than trying to protect them with a vaccine. They're not really at risk if they catch the disease. I've seen some reports claiming children are exposed to more risk of harm taking the vaccine vs catching the virus. Let them develop natural immunity which is infinitely better than the vaccines.