[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by thevillages2013

Cold and flu was lower because much of it was misdiagnosed as Covid

Lower because of masks......indisputable.

[SkBlogW]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

From the "...Kids Were Safe..." article:

Which means that while more cases are likely and some amount of hospitalization and death, as well, vaccines have eliminated the overwhelming share of American mortality risk, with the disease now circulating almost exclusively among people who can endure it much, much better — kids especially.

I wonder if the current 140,000+ new cases per day, 1,800+ deaths per day, and 96,700 currently hospitalized are what the authors envisioned when they wrote that paragraph?

The article was written July 12, before we knew that the vaccines were really losing efficacy,

I can pull up some nice quotes from Fauci from a few months ago saying we won't be seeing dramatic surges this fall if you like.

Anyway, the article was about kids, and this thread is about mandating masks.

There's been 4.8 million cases in kids 0 to 17, 439 have died, most of which had existing health problems. A twelve year old is 10,000 times less likely to die from covid as a 75 year old is. Masks will do nothing, we need boosters and soon or its not going to be a fun winter.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by bonrich

Remember how many of us fought wearing seat belts? The usual remark, was it's my choice to wear a belt. Then some cars had the seat belt wrap around you when you started and now, "it's the law." Even though it's required, I wear a belt every time I am driving, put it on without thinking about it. Will we reach mask use to the level that seat belts are used? Maybe.............

Yes if we can't finish off the CV and it is as of now beating us, thanks to the anti-s of the world.

[SkBlogW]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Lower because of masks......indisputable.

Please explain to the class on how masks can stop influenza virus aerosols less than 5 micrometers in size but cant stop covid virus aerosols less than 5 micrometers in size.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by taruffi57

Way out of date info. Many experts and medical research studies disagree with your opinion. And besides, children are by far the least likely to have any serious consequences of COVID - due to their excellent natural immune system. We are now having multiple and serious side effects - even deaths, from the "vaccines". Medical personnel are refusing the jabs and even losing their jobs because they have seen the risks.

Jabs are for boxing events. Not medical dialog!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Nellmack

I'm from a large city where wearing a mask is a sign of respect for others around you. It's not political, masks provide some form of protection. Is a mask perfect? No, but it's better than not wearing a mask.

The problem is that some folks refuse to get vaccinated and and they are the ones that continue to spread the disease. 96% of the people being emitted to the hospital are unvaccinated. What more proof does anyone need? If everyone got vaccinated the spread would stop and this conversation would be over. Our economy, travel, life would be back to normal.

If you refuse to get the vaccination you are to blame for the ongoing pandemic. You are stubborn, selfish and a detriment to society. The resolution is pretty simple.

Deaths are 11 times greater in the UN vaccinated than the vaccinated.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Are you suggesting that parents have no right in how they raise their children?
BTW, what does using seat belts have to do with wearing masks? Other than stopping a bug from flying into your mouth, will a mask prevent auto accidents?

Seat belts and wearing masks and getting vaccinated are both related ways that the Federal Government is TRYING to protect its citizens. THAT is their job! We pay them to provide protection.

[Roron123]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

Oh god..another mask thread...just what we need

Give me a break another fearmongering when masks cause many respiratory problems and sinus infections etc ugh!!!!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Skeety

Total BS. The vaccine has cause more damage than good. Violent headaches. F***** up heart. Severe rash. DON'T TAKE THIS POISON!!

Bad advice and confidence reigns supreme in the camp of the ignorant!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

When there are still people who feel "masks do nothing" then YES, YES, YES, YES, we need another mask thread. Masks most certainly help to mitigate the spread of this virus These kids need all the protection they can possibly get. And yet.....we have mask mandates that are prohibited in our state for school children in the classroom. That simple mitigation effort for these kids is absolutely necessary to keep them safer in the classroom.

As I have already said in my OP.......EVERYONE in the classroom must wear a mask for Universal Masking to be effective. Why is it that the people who should be up on this stuff are casting the science aside?

Universal masking is in effect for airline travel in this country. Why not protect our children in the same manner?

Strangely the US is exporting its anti-Science attitudes to Canada.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

It's a long way from mask mandates to "death camps"
That's like saying seat belt mandates lead to road tests every 6 months which leads to mandatory participation in a roadside chain gang

Do you know why the courts upheld seat belt laws, even for a single person with no family driving alone and getting in a single car accident? It was because the cost of any excess injury that was incurred due to a lack of seat belt use would ultimately be shared by other people, whether Medicare, Medicaid, No-fault, or private insurance. Hence it was ruled constitutional and legal.

Not a big leap to conclude that mask mandates would be ultimately upheld under the same principle.

I agree with the contents of ths post.

[eyc234]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Cold and flu was down because everyone was working from home, kids were zooming for classes and people finally figured out how to wash their hands...

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by DeeCee Dubya

Bean If I told you they were monsters underneath your bed, would you believe that too?

I assume you are addressing me. Are you implying I am gullible?

[Katieburr]

Absolutely agree! If mandating masking had happened from the very beginning we would not be in the state we’re in now. And now our children are getting sick and dying. How on earth does anyone justify this?

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by gweisheipl

What about mandatory hand washing? What about mandatory tooth brushing? What about mandatory chap stick use? What about mandatory no kissing? You people are so hung up on face diapers that are never worn correctly. All Ridiculous! COVID is with us forever, so is mandatory mask wearing forever? Not for this guy!

I have not been wearing any mask since I have been fully vaccinated.I will get the booster when I'm eligible. No more masking for me unless it is required by an establishment such as health care facilities.

I started this thread about young children who are not old enough to be vaccinated yet and will be in schools for in person learning.