[davem4616]

make no mistake about it folks we are already at war...wars can no longer be defined as merely hot or cold

We are in the middle of an war with Russian, China and Iran...they are trying to undermine us any way that they can...they are flooding the media with BS just like Tokyo Rose did
Russia is routinely testing us by flying into our / Canada's air space on a regular basis and harassing our planes in international air space
China has been stealing our intellectual property for decades and taking over small islands in the Pacific....just like Russia has taken over land that it wanted on the Black Sea

Iran has been allowed to get away with attacking ships (ours and our allies) in international waters for far to long

[vilger]

An attempt to raise the price of oil to save the shale industry.

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by karostay

Keep poking the hornets nest with a stick and eventually the bees get P---ed off

Why would there be bees in a hornet's nest? lol

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by vilger

An attempt to raise the price of oil to save the shale industry.

Some people apparently believe that. I'm guessing there's a correlation between that view and those who watch a lot of MSNBC?

[New Englander]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Boats usually sink after holes are poked in them.

Sink: to descend, drop, go down under the suface

[blueash]

The US Navy decided to conduct live fire training exercises in the North Persian Gulf. I am sure we stayed just outside the territorial waters of Iran. We were making a point that we have big boats and big guns, and big aircraft.

operations have been ongoing throughout March and April.

“This is yet another successful example of our surface forces being able to leverage cross-domain capabilities in order to enhance lethality against maritime threats

What would the US do if Iran's navy, if they had one, decided to hold a live fire training exercise 13 miles from our coast? I think the response of Iran was muted sending a few speedboats to loop around our ships.

Time to wag the dog?

[npwalters]

Originally Posted by vilger

An attempt to raise the price of oil to save the shale industry.

groan and eye roll

[blueash]

Originally Posted by TexaninVA

I forgot about that national disgrace and textbook example of fecklessness.

Let me review the history of that event.

"On January 12, 2016, two United States Navy riverine command boats were seized by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) Navy after they entered Iranian territorial waters near Iran's Farsi Island in the Persian Gulf. Initially, the U.S. military claimed the sailors inadvertently entered Iranian waters owing to mechanical failure, but it was later reported that they entered Iranian waters because of navigational errors.[3] The U.S. secretary of state, John Kerry, called the Iranian foreign minister Mohammad Javad Zarif within five minutes. His call was followed by multiple other phone calls between the two ministers. The sailors had a brief verbal exchange with the Iranian military and were released, unharmed, 15 hours later. "

To summary, our ship illegally entered the territorial water of Iran. The ship was captured and within a few hours the sailors were released. And you call that feckless? What should we have done, other than maybe stayed out of their waters. The Iranian Navy if it followed the just issued orders from our side, would have sunk our ships and all souls lost. What country acted with restraint in this story? Did diplomacy show its value? Some people only see what they want to see and disregard the rest.

[karostay]

Originally Posted by davem4616

make no mistake about it folks we are already at war...wars can no longer be defined as merely hot or cold

We are in the middle of an war with Russian, China and Iran...they are trying to undermine us any way that they can...they are flooding the media with BS just like Tokyo Rose did
Russia is routinely testing us by flying into our / Canada's air space on a regular basis and harassing our planes in international air space
China has been stealing our intellectual property for decades and taking over small islands in the Pacific....just like Russia has taken over land that it wanted on the Black Sea

Iran has been allowed to get away with attacking ships (ours and our allies) in international waters for far to long

No more new sheriff in town

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by blueash

Let me review the history of that event.

"On January 12, 2016, two United States Navy riverine command boats were seized by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) Navy after they entered Iranian territorial waters near Iran's Farsi Island in the Persian Gulf. Initially, the U.S. military claimed the sailors inadvertently entered Iranian waters owing to mechanical failure, but it was later reported that they entered Iranian waters because of navigational errors.[3] The U.S. secretary of state, John Kerry, called the Iranian foreign minister Mohammad Javad Zarif within five minutes. His call was followed by multiple other phone calls between the two ministers. The sailors had a brief verbal exchange with the Iranian military and were released, unharmed, 15 hours later. "

To summary, our ship illegally entered the territorial water of Iran. The ship was captured and within a few hours the sailors were released. And you call that feckless? What should we have done, other than maybe stayed out of their waters. The Iranian Navy if it followed the just issued orders from our side, would have sunk our ships and all souls lost. What country acted with restraint in this story? Did diplomacy show its value? Some people only see what they want to see and disregard the rest.

IF they could, but it's doubtful we would give them the chance

Originally Posted by blueash

The US Navy decided to conduct live fire training exercises in the North Persian Gulf. I am sure we stayed just outside the territorial waters of Iran. We were making a point that we have big boats and big guns, and big aircraft.


What would the US do if Iran's navy, if they had one, decided to hold a live fire training exercise 13 miles from our coast? I think the response of Iran was muted sending a few speedboats to loop around our ships.

Time to wag the dog?

Who cares. The point is we can do it off their waters and there is really nothing they can do about it

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by blueash

The US Navy decided to conduct live fire training exercises in the North Persian Gulf. I am sure we stayed just outside the territorial waters of Iran. We were making a point that we have big boats and big guns, and big aircraft.


What would the US do if Iran's navy, if they had one, decided to hold a live fire training exercise 13 miles from our coast? I think the response of Iran was muted sending a few speedboats to loop around our ships.

Time to wag the dog?

A little bit outside your lane?

The thing is, those speedboats are not really Iranian Navy. Instead, they belong to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy. These speedboats, which are often equipped with heavy machine guns, rockets, and other weapons, got a reputation for attacking merchant traffic in the Iran-Iraq War. Back then, they were called "Boghammars" after the Swedish company that built the first boats used by the Iranians.

Just some nice little "speedboats" Problem is they are violating COLREGS by coming way too close.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

A little bit outside your lane?

The thing is, those speedboats are not really Iranian Navy. Instead, they belong to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy. These speedboats, which are often equipped with heavy machine guns, rockets, and other weapons, got a reputation for attacking merchant traffic in the Iran-Iraq War. Back then, they were called "Boghammars" after the Swedish company that built the first boats used by the Iranians.

Just some nice little "speedboats" Problem is they are violating COLREGS by coming way too close.

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Just sink one. I'm sure the rest will stay away

[PNaughton]

I don't think the present CIC likes to be poked.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Just sink one. I'm sure the rest will stay away

And we won't even have to use any of the "big guns"

Just a Bushmaster or Mark 2 should do the trick.

US Navy Obliterates Attacking Fast-Boat – Mk 38 MOD 2 25mm Gun System Live-Fire Exercise - YouTube

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by karostay

Keep poking the hornets nest with a stick and eventually the bees get P---ed off

Yellowjacket’s attack before the poke.