[bcsnave]

Originally Posted by justjim

Your swimming pool temp (with a pump circulating the water) is not the same as the temp of the Atlantic or the Gulf. Apples and oranges. “You can be young over half of your life but you can be immature and stubborn all of your life.” Anonymous

Yeah...pool water can be warmed up by many different methods...just saying

[Southwest737]

Just returned from scuba trip in Key West. Water temperature was 91 or 92 everyday on the Gulf side. Past years it was 86 to 88 in mid August.

[Byte1]

Hmmm, I wonder how much underwater volcanoes contribute to warm oceans/seas.

[justjim]

Originally Posted by Southwest737

Just returned from scuba trip in Key West. Water temperature was 91 or 92 everyday on the Gulf side. Past years it was 86 to 88 in mid August.

Thanks for your report.

[bcsnave]

Originally Posted by Southwest737

Just returned from scuba trip in Key West. Water temperature was 91 or 92 everyday on the Gulf side. Past years it was 86 to 88 in mid August.

And to reiterate my point..

A single fin whale is thought to produce around 1,000 liters (260 gallons) of urine each day — enough to fill a 10-by-6-foot kiddie pool.

Or heaven forbid the warm Yellow feces from the blue whale...

get em' out of the Ocean they are contributing to water temperature rise

[shut the front door]

Originally Posted by justjim

Your swimming pool temp (with a pump circulating the water) is not the same as the temp of the Atlantic or the Gulf. Apples and oranges. “You can be young over half of your life but you can be immature and stubborn all of your life.” Anonymous

The people talking about pool temps are giving this subject the exact amount of seriousness that it deserves. NONE.

[bcsnave]

Originally Posted by shut the front door

The people talking about pool temps are giving this subject the exact amount of seriousness that it deserves. NONE.

WTF????? (well that's funny)

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Hank’s mom

I think I spotted a stupid one!

To paraphrase Charlton Heston as Moses in "The Ten Commandments" to Pharoah:

"Out of your own mouth you have condemned yourself."

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Proof? Here's the proof: IT'S NOT POSSIBLE!

And you think that a 4 foot deep 12,000 gallon pool with a circulating pump is a good analogy to a 20,000 foot deep 22 quintillion gallon ocean. PPPPLLLLEEEEEZZZZEEEEE

I wouldn't be so sure about not possible.

Looking at the data though, it's concerning. I found data for three buoys plus the MNBF1 that registered the high temperature. Today, three of them show a little over 87 degrees and MNBF1 shows a little over 89 degrees. There could be all sorts of valid reasons why MNBF1 reads two degrees higher. However, on the hot day MNBF1 read almost six degrees higher. Six degrees is still not impossible but it makes it a little harder to believe.

Whatever the case, while MNBF1 showed the absolute highest temperature it does not seem to be typical of the ocean around it. The three buoys around it all show similar temperatures: 87.3 degrees today and 95.6 degrees on the hot day.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I wouldn't be so sure about not possible.

Looking at the data though, it's concerning. I found data for three buoys plus the MNBF1 that registered the high temperature. Today, three of them show a little over 87 degrees and MNBF1 shows a little over 89 degrees. There could be all sorts of valid reasons why MNBF1 reads two degrees higher. However, on the hot day MNBF1 read almost six degrees higher. Six degrees is still not impossible but it makes it a little harder to believe.

Whatever the case, while MNBF1 showed the absolute highest temperature it does not seem to be typical of the ocean around it. The three buoys around it all show similar temperatures: 87.3 degrees today and 95.6 degrees on the hot day.

Sure, Ocean temps of 87 in the Gulf are pretty much the norm, maybe a degree or 2 high. But 101.1 just isn't possible--the laws of thermodynamics prohibit it.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Hmmm, I wonder how much underwater volcanoes contribute to warm oceans/seas.

In Manatee Bay between Key Largo and main Florida?? Not very much!

[bcsnave]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I wouldn't be so sure about not possible.

Looking at the data though, it's concerning. I found data for three buoys plus the MNBF1 that registered the high temperature. Today, three of them show a little over 87 degrees and MNBF1 shows a little over 89 degrees. There could be all sorts of valid reasons why MNBF1 reads two degrees higher. However, on the hot day MNBF1 read almost six degrees higher. Six degrees is still not impossible but it makes it a little harder to believe.

Whatever the case, while MNBF1 showed the absolute highest temperature it does not seem to be typical of the ocean around it. The three buoys around it all show similar temperatures: 87.3 degrees today and 95.6 degrees on the hot day.

Perhaps there are a lot of whales swimming in the area? Who knows

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Sure, Ocean temps of 87 in the Gulf are pretty much the norm, maybe a degree or 2 high. But 101.1 just isn't possible--the laws of thermodynamics prohibit it.

Which laws of thermodynamics prevent water from being heated by direct sunlight or warmed by other material in the water that is being heated by the sunlight?

101 seems off, particularly given the difference from the 95.6 degrees measured by the neighboring buoys. Even if it is accurate, the explanation for why it was so different might negate the value of the measurement.

[Haggar]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

First of all, I'M NOT THE POSTER WHO ESPOUSES THAT 7 YEAR COOLING TREND, so direct that comment where it belongs.

That being said, I tend to agree with that person in general, except I've said neither side can use this year, 7 years, or even 200 years to predict a change in cycles that have been repeating for 4 1/2 million years.

And people dying in this "heat wave"???? Really???? You're right, this year is the first year, EVER, that people died in a "heat wave". right??? What a joke!

You're right about heat waves. In 1936 5000 people died from heat during the Oklahoma and surrounding area dust storms and heat. Don't see what the temperatures were in 1936.

Sorry If you thought I was directing this at you. It was directed at the posters that have made a definite judgment based upon studies that may or not be valid but seem to have made up their minds that only they are right. It would seem the "weather club" only has presentations that support the one theory. If I am wrong on this please correct me.

[bcsnave]

Originally Posted by rustyp

That explains the low ocean temps - lots of shade out in the gulf.

I think I found the guy responsible for the high temps by the MFBN1 bouy