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Originally Posted by Velvet

I’ve always suspected that I agree with you. So we are “manipulated” into behaving better…lol…if it works….

Personally, I think there maybe many ways to “heaven”. I don’t think the Lord left anybody out if they are good people. The Buddhist have enlightment as sort of heaven equivalent. The Muslims have several different heavens. The Judeo Christians have the same set of guys waiting for them. Speaking personally, no way I’m not going to see if I can meet Moses and Isaiah if they have time for me. And since I fail in my good intentions so often, I will need help from Jesus to get there in the first place. Just saying….

"If they have time for me". Of course they will have time for you. They and you will have have FOREVER. Time never ending in an existence where even the concept of time is meaningless.

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Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest

There are 4 'heavens' to choose from. Don't worry about choosing the wrong one, you can always submit a 'Heaven change order' and try one of the other 3. Everything you could ever want is there. You are continually immersed in conversation with God who will nurture you over eternity. There is no pain only warm, happy, pleasant feelings. You are never alone for God is always at your side. You'll have a beautiful house made of gold and the finest of things. You will want for nothing. When you get there you'll be able to discuss and debate politics all you want. Its a grand and glorious place with pickleball till you drop and parties every night. You're going to love it!

Only 4 heavens? 😠 Surely there will be an unlimited number to move through as you like.

[Jerry101]

Originally Posted by jonathanb

Believers in Jesus will spend eternity In heaven with Him. Those who do not believe will spend eternity in hell If you repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ you will be saved. He is the only one who paid the price for sin. Many will say I’m narrow minded but you asked a really serious question and you deserved the Truth and a serious answer.

… some say ‘don’t talk religion’. By my faith I am commanded to by the Lord Jesus, and I do it boldly!

Matthew 28: 19-20

[19] Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: [20] Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

… I honestly pray that God open the hearts & minds of people!

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Originally Posted by Ginmato

I like to think there is an afterlife. And I do believe in evolution. But at what point did evolutionary man develop an ever lasting soul? Are Neanderthals in heaven?

Why not? Plenty of room for everyone and everything.

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com

I hope wherever I go , I can get a great slice of pizza

With or without anchovies? 🍕

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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe

So when my cell phone battery dies, or gets run over by a truck it is still operating on another plane of existence ?

What a silly question! Of course it is.

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Originally Posted by cindyfeh

You cannot take passages out of context in the Bible.

Of course you can. People do it all the time.

[Blackbird45]

I'm not religious, but I feel sorry for God. He is the scapegoat for whatever followers of whatever religion want to promote. Just once I would love to see after a hurricane a reported interviewing a survivor the person says, thank God he spared my life, but look what he did to my house I'm homeless. Please, whatever you do don't tell me he's testing us. If he is powerful to cause a hurricane, he should be able to go to Staples and print out some type of written exams.

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Originally Posted by Ptmckiou

For me, I combine spirituality (not structured religion) and science because they support each other. Physics states energy cannot be created, or destroyed, but only change molecular structure.

Energy is all that is…all matter in the universe is made from energy. Energy has always been, and will always be. Energy can’t be destroyed. Energy can’t die. Thereby, since I am made of matter (atoms, molecules, quarks etc), then when mu body stops functioning, the energy that made me is still there. I see collectively, all that is, as….God. God being an intelligent energy. The soul, is a small aspect of God, that collective divine intelligent energy that has always been, and will always be….because “energy cannot be created or destroyed…”

To answer your question my consciousness (also energy) will continue past the demise of the vessel it’s temporarily housed in.

Very similar to my own beliefs.

[cindyfeh]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Of course you can. People do it all the time.

Yes, people take Bible passages out of context all the time. I guess I should have said to get the true meaning from the passage in the Bible, you should read the entire chapter and know the context; who is talking, when, where, and to whom.

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Originally Posted by Two Bills

I wouldn't say you were narrow minded.
Just sad, mean, and mindless.

Pretty cold response. Some might even say sad, mean and mindless.
People can't really help what they believe. They are taught/indoctrinated what to think and how to think and what to believe from childhood. As they grow thoughts and thinking patterns become more structured. Some rebel or refute anything that goes against their teaching. Others may be more flexible to allow them to see, accept and adapt to newer, better ways and ideas. People don't/can't just decide to believe differently any more than they decide to be a different blood type or change their species. Beliefs can be changed if one is able to assimilate new/different information.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Pretty cold response. Some might even say sad, mean and mindless.
People can't really help what they believe. They are taught/indoctrinated what to think and how to think and what to believe from childhood. As they grow thoughts and thinking patterns become more structured. Some rebel or refute anything that goes against their teaching. Others may be more flexible to allow them to see, accept and adapt to newer, better ways and ideas. People don't/can't just decide to believe differently any more than they decide to be a different blood type or change their species. Beliefs can be changed if one is able to assimilate new/different information.

Like climate change????? (Sorry, cross-threading---10 yard penalty)

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Originally Posted by Jerry101

…

… I honestly pray that God open the hearts & minds of people!

I have done the same since childhood. Still do. Sadly, it hasn't changed a thing.
Makes one wonder, maybe Peace, Love and Brotherhood are not part of God's plan?

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Like climate change????? (Sorry, cross-threading---10 yard penalty)

Haha! No penalty. Just glad you remember me after they closed the climate thread.. We, at least I was, having a good time. Then they closed it. How rude of them to do that.
😃 Peace!

[55&Out]

I hope death is like the quick loss of conciousness one undergoes during anesthesia prior to a surgical procedure. Count backwards 3...2...(inject Milk of Amnesia), blackness, no pain...