[Aces4]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Since time immemorial humans have fought and killed one another in the name of and with the blessings of their gods. Not only other religions, but different groups of the same religion.

They have fought one another because of human egos and oppression of faith. It is still happening but God does not teach us to kill one another in his name.

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

huh? "god is everywhere. Consciousness is everywhere". Ok! So when you talk to god you are actually just talking to yourself. Makes sense, sort of.

"the main godhead"?? "aspects" (of god?) "have forgotten who they are" sounds like universal consciousness does not equal universal awareness. God has amnesia? Or dementia? No wonder the world is in such a state. This does not make sense to me. Sorry.

if you want to be logical explain why are we entitled to a glass of water or a breath of fresh air or tje planet and universe itself. Are you grateful for that? Who do you think provided for you? Is the universe designed or did it magically show up? Your choice

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by Worldseries27

if you want to be logical explain why are we entitled to a glass of water or a breath of fresh air or tje planet and universe itself. Are you grateful for that? Who do you think provided for you? Is the universe designed or did it magically show up? Your choice

Why do you need to assume that someone provided something for us? Do the animals wonder about why the pond is there to drink for them?
We did not ask to be born, why are we suppose to regret it?
Personally, of course I believe in the Creator, but all this guilt stuff baffles me.

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by thirdoffive

interesting post.

For me, the existence of the watch proves the existence of a watchmaker. I accept the idea that the creator exists/existed because the more scientific advancements and discoveries we make, the more those advancements indicate to me that we, as with all life on this planet, are not an accident. The proof? I read recently that one molecule of human dna contains something like 215 petabytes of information. One petabyte is equal to about 500 billion pages of typed text. The library of congress contains only (only?) about 20 petabytes of information. One molecule of our dna contains more data than eleven equivalent libraries of congress. I have a hard time envisioning such a number. And that molecule, aside from being just a blueprint, is also in effect a computer program designed to run for about 70-80 years before self-terminating--and each individual "computer" is that of a person unique from all the billions of other "computers" both dead and alive--well, to believe that all of that happened by accident beggars the imagination.

But that is only half. The other half, that of salvation and the assumption into an eternal life in a place with an all-good and all-caring god, is based purely on faith, and no direct proof of that "place" exists. I do however think that there is indirect evidence: Miraculous events that cannot be explained by science, for example, or of lives changed upon acceptance of a benevolent higher power. That fact has been part of aa since it's inception: The second step of the 12-step program follows the step where the addict admits that he or she is powerless, but in the second step acknowledges that reliance on a higher power is needed before the addiction is controlled. Aa is no surefire cure, but many, many lives have been changed for the better because of it.

We have no hard answers, but when one looks at the evidence, the existence of a benevolent watchmaker is hard to refute.

agreed

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by aces4

they have fought one another because of human egos and oppression of faith. It is still happening but god does not teach us to kill one another in his name.

he actually forbids it
the sixth commandment
" thou shalt not kill"

[Worldseries27]

There's an old saying
" if the shoe fits, wear it

[Boston1945]

I have been told that the lights go out.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Worldseries27

he actually forbids it
the sixth commandment
" thou shalt not kill"

The correct is "Thou shall not commit murder"...

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[jimbomaybe]

Originally Posted by Ptmckiou

Is your cell phone made from atoms? Is your cell phone made from everything else in the universe? Energy? Consciousness is everywhere. “God”. is everywhere. Is there anywhere God is not? All that IS….collectively is God. Nothing but God, who is experiencing through zillions of aspects of itself…some aspects have forgotten who they are and drifted far away from the main godhead of most divine energy (God/heaven), and the 3D game is to find your way back to knowing who you really are, because nothing in 3D can harm the REAL you…soul divine energy.

As a matter of fact I don't believe in Animism

[tophcfa]

The state and federal government taxes your estate, even though they already taxed it when you earned it.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Larchap49

What hunters do is help the population control of wild animals so they don't die a horrible death from starvation due to overpopulation. Not to mention the millions of dollars they put into the economy pursuing this activity. Try doing some research on the subject before condeming it.

Yeah, hunters' lives matter!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by 44Apple

How many religions or spiritual belief systems have there been? Hundreds? Thousands? There have been many, each with its own group of stories re a possible afterlife. They can't all be correct. And at this point, I doubt any of them are. The 72 virgins? The golden plates story? Angels flying, with wings no less? Unfortunately, or fortunately, when you go, you go.

Those that spin the most compelling after-life story WIN. They get the most followers and therefore the most money. Maybe I can start a religion that allows everyone to saddle up a dragon and ride around Disney World in their afterlife. Or maybe become an invisible spirit so they can easily snoop on their Villager friends. That has potential.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Those that spin the most compelling after-life story WIN. They get the most followers and therefore the most money. Maybe I can start a religion that allows everyone to saddle up a dragon and ride around Disney World in their afterlife. Or maybe become an invisible spirit so they can easily snoop on their Villager friends. That has potential.

And without faith, most would be reduced to that; cynicism, acrimony, oh why list it… we can see what the world has become. (I said most, not all.)

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Worldseries27

if you want to be logical explain why are we entitled to a glass of water or a breath of fresh air or tje planet and universe itself. Are you grateful for that? Who do you think provided for you? Is the universe designed or did it magically show up? Your choice

Who says we are "entitled" to anything? When your parents created you, you were born into a world, country, town family that was making use of the things they worked for, whatever kind of work that might have been. All living things work for there survival.

Am I "grateful"? The word "Grateful" implies a benefactor(s). Instead of saying grateful, it might be more accurate to say I am happy for the many good things in my life. I am thankful to my parents, family for providing for me and loving me.

"Is the universe designed or did it magically show up?" Only two choices? God or Harry Potter are my two choices?. If I were an atheist with a sarcastic sense of humor, I would probably say, "What difference does it make. They are both fictional characters". But I am not an atheist. What if I said that I think that God, as most people envision him, doesn't exist, and He didn't make the universe. But, something incomprehensible might exist, and it came into being with the universe and is part of it.