[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

If all the predictions and beliefs are wrong, my sympathy goes out to all the Nuns, and all the fun they have missed out on!
To be quite honest, I find your whole diatribe to be quite arrogant and offensive.

Nuns......married to God. Yeah right!

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by tvbound

You're very confused. The person you sent some kind of "Healing White Light" to because you thought he was advocating "war/killing," is the same one that wrote the post - you are now calling "Great."

That would be...ME. LOL

Lady probably still a bit confused after the latest alien abduction.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Lady probably still a bit confused after the latest alien abduction.

That made me laugh.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Lady probably still a bit confused after the latest alien abduction.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by chrissy2231

Dracula movies stole this idea

Not just Dracula. Ever see The Incredible Shrinking Man?

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by chrissy2231

Possible this may be hell!

Equally possible it is heaven. I don't believe in either, but the possibilities are there for consideration.
👼👹

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest

I really don't know what happens when you die. For those who believe in a God there is Heaven and Hell and the eternity of afterlife. For those non believers or followers of other religious or other factions, there are any number of answers to the question.

There is one thing I think we ALL can agree on, however. We will all find out and we will all have the answer to the question. Some will know in the very near future and others just a little while longer. Patience.

Sorry to disagree, but like a movie that ends with a person looking out a door. You see them looking, but you can't see beyond the door. You have no idea what, if anything, is beyond that door. Then the movie leaves you hanging, wondering as it fades to black. It is over. No explanation. No sequel. Nothing.
Was it a movie, or a dream. You will never know, or even care. Stuff of the cosmos. Stuff of infinity. RIP!

[PersonOfInterest]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Believe what you wish, but some things will happen regardless of what you believe. Death of the body is a given and for some on here, sooner than later. If you knew you were going to die tomorrow and were given a choice between someone's idea of coming back as a cricket (which can live for up to a year), or a dog or a short lived butterfly, or having your spirit/soul live forever, which choice would you make? I have never seen any evidence or heard of anyone that came back as another living organism but I do have historic documentation that there is the existence of a better place (usually called Heaven). Some folks believe that we just cease to exist. That would be pretty convenient, right? Personally, I believe in Divine Design and the creation of mankind, as well as the rest of our universe. I believe in GOD. Now, there is documentation that a man named Jesus existed over 2000 years ago. He claimed to be the Son of GOD, and he claimed to be GOD. Documentation shows that he performed miracles and made predictions. It was claimed that he was without sin and that he was a good man. All this is documented by hundreds of witnesses. Because of his claim, he was put to death. We don't need to go into the details of his punishment but it was predicted in old documentation (Old Testament/Scrolls) a thousand or more years previous to his birth. Jesus promised us a place with him in heaven. Some believed and some didn't. He rose from the grave and there were many witnesses to his return. HE gave us proof of what he claimed would happen. Then he ascended. The reasoning for this whole action was for Jesus (without sin) to take upon himself all of our sin, but only if we let him. Since ALL men (and women) have sinned and GOD does not accept sin, the only way for the promised afterlife with GOD is by allowing Jesus to take the blame and punishment for all our sin. But, it's not automatic. One MUST believe in Jesus and allow him to take their sin upon himself. The Bible claims that the penalty for sin is DEATH. The Bible states that those that believe in Jesus as the son of GOD will NOT die but have eternal life (in spirit form). Other places in the Bible suggest that those with sin will endure eternal torture.
OK, so that is what is documented(paraphrased).
So, if given a choice and ONLY the choice between eternal life or eternal torture, it seems like a no brainer what the choice would be. So, lets say I believe in eternal life (I do) as promised by thousands of years of prophecy, I die and I am wrong. What have I lost?
Someone else believes that when you die, you cease to exist. They die and they are wrong. What have they lost? The have lost an eternal life in GOD's glory. If I happen to be right, then they also endure an eternal punishment.
If I am wrong, then I have lost nothing by believing. If they are wrong, ouch!
This is what I believe happens when I die. I also believe that there will be some harsh punishment for those that attempt to persuade others that GOD does not exist. The question was asked and it was my obligation to pass on what I believe. I won't argue my point, only that this is what I believe.

I think we all know the story, but something being 'Documented' does not make it True or Factual. What 'harsh punishment' have you seen God take against those attempting to persuade others that he does not exist?

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest

I think we all know the story, but something being 'Documented' does not make it True or Factual. What 'harsh punishment' have you seen God take against those attempting to persuade others that he does not exist?

"True and Factual" is that the documentation shows that there were many, many witnesses. It's interesting that many even on here will take a scientist's view or theory on a subject such as man caused climate control, as fact even though they have not witnessed evidence of it. I wasn't around for any of the Great Wars or the Civil War, but I take most of history documentation as factual or at least credible. Even if one does not believe in the Bible, it's hard to refute the accuracy of it historically and mathematically, when many have made the attempt. But, I said I would not argue my answer as to what I believe will happen to me when I die. Historically, Jesus did exist and was put to death. That was documented. I suggest that either he was/is what he claimed, GOD's son or he was the greatest documented magician, conman and liar the world has ever known.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by Byte1

"True and Factual" is that the documentation shows that there were many, many witnesses. It's interesting that many even on here will take a scientist's view or theory on a subject such as man caused climate control, as fact even though they have not witnessed evidence of it. I wasn't around for any of the Great Wars or the Civil War, but I take most of history documentation as factual or at least credible. Even if one does not believe in the Bible, it's hard to refute the accuracy of it historically and mathematically, when many have made the attempt. But, I said I would not argue my answer as to what I believe will happen to me when I die. Historically, Jesus did exist and was put to death. That was documented. I suggest that either he was/is what he claimed, GOD's son or he was the greatest documented magician, conman and liar the world has ever known.

And archeological findings. The various cities and countries mentioned in the Bible eg how Babylonians used the bodies of ( probably live) children to build into the walls of their houses to keep the walls up; many, many other physical artifacts all documented in the Old Testament which by the way was written also as a history book. The Dead Sea scrolls, carbon dated etc.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Lady probably still a bit confused after the latest alien abduction.

Yup.

[PersonOfInterest]

Originally Posted by Byte1

"True and Factual" is that the documentation shows that there were many, many witnesses. It's interesting that many even on here will take a scientist's view or theory on a subject such as man caused climate control, as fact even though they have not witnessed evidence of it. I wasn't around for any of the Great Wars or the Civil War, but I take most of history documentation as factual or at least credible. Even if one does not believe in the Bible, it's hard to refute the accuracy of it historically and mathematically, when many have made the attempt. But, I said I would not argue my answer as to what I believe will happen to me when I die. Historically, Jesus did exist and was put to death. That was documented. I suggest that either he was/is what he claimed, GOD's son or he was the greatest documented magician, conman and liar the world has ever known.

It easier for most to accept Civil War accounts over documented accounts of a man performing miracles. What one accepts as true and factual is entirely their choice. I find your suggestion of Jesus as the son of God or magician, conman and liar to be interesting when combined with the defense of historical documentation. I appreciate your views.

[chrissy2231]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I believe that there is a misinterpretation there. The gentleman's statement was the opposite of his belief in violence. He just stated that it is unfortunate that those things happen in the world. He himself chooses to avoid violence.

"My religion/belief is the correct/only one and I'm willing to start wars, or kill, to prove it." VERY CLEAR! A tragedy!

[chrissy2231]

Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest

It easier for most to accept Civil War accounts over documented accounts of a man performing miracles. What one accepts as true and factual is entirely their choice. I find your suggestion of Jesus as the son of God or magician, conman and liar to be interesting when combined with the defense of historical documentation. I appreciate your views.

God put Jesus to death because of our sins...and here I thought I had an awful childhood.

[chrissy2231]

Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest

I think we all know the story, but something being 'Documented' does not make it True or Factual. What 'harsh punishment' have you seen God take against those attempting to persuade others that he does not exist?

I believe in God, and Reincarnation makes the most sense to me. We Reincarnate to learn the Life Lessons we didn't learn in previous life. Human form; not what you suggest.

God put Jesus to death because of our sins...and here I thought I had an awful childhood.

Where is Heaven and what happens there?