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Old 12-12-2017, 02:46 PM
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As I live In Community Development District 10, I believe we do get to vote as stated on The Villages web site and I quote:“ The Board of Supervisors is currently comprised of three landowner seats and two qualified seats, which means that three supervisors were elected by landowner votes (one vote per acre or part thereof). In 2016, two landowner seats will transition to qualified, and in 2018 the final land owner seat will transition to qualified. From that point forward, all supervisors in District No. 10 will be elected by 'qualified electors' (registered voters) residing in the District. They are elected on a non-partisan basis on the general election ballot.

As a governmental entity in the State of Florida, Village Community Development District No. 10 is held to the same high standards as cities and counties as it pertains to Sunshine Law, Public Records Law, Financial Reporting and Financial Disclosure Laws. Additionally, the Board of Supervisors adheres to Florida Statute Chapter 112, Part III- Code of Ethics for Public Officers and Employees."
Twoplanekid, just a short clarification on your nearly correct statement, four of the current Supervisors in District 10 were elected by qualified electors (or ran unopposed) and the fifth, Mr. Rebecky, while being landowner elected is also a resident of CDD10. So yes, you do get a vote and three of the Supervisor seats are up for election/re-election in 2018.
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As I live In Community Development District 10, I believe we do get to vote as stated on The Villages web site and I quote:“ The Board of Supervisors is currently comprised of three landowner seats and two qualified seats, which means that three supervisors were elected by landowner votes (one vote per acre or part thereof). In 2016, two landowner seats will transition to qualified, and in 2018 the final land owner seat will transition to qualified. From that point forward, all supervisors in District No. 10 will be elected by 'qualified electors' (registered voters) residing in the District. They are elected on a non-partisan basis on the general election ballot.

As a governmental entity in the State of Florida, Village Community Development District No. 10 is held to the same high standards as cities and counties as it pertains to Sunshine Law, Public Records Law, Financial Reporting and Financial Disclosure Laws. Additionally, the Board of Supervisors adheres to Florida Statute Chapter 112, Part III- Code of Ethics for Public Officers and Employees."
The board of supervisors you speak of are all associates of the Developer.

I had written more to say below about a private conversation I had with a reliable source that ,if true, would blunt much of what you share. but to what avail.

You can never prove a negative and in that people who speak up are at a distinct disadvantage.

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Twoplanekid, just a short clarification on your nearly correct statement, four of the current Supervisors in District 10 were elected by qualified electors (or ran unopposed) and the fifth, Mr. Rebecky, while being landowner elected is also a resident of CDD10. So yes, you do get a vote and three of the Supervisor seats are up for election/re-election in 2018.
Thanks for the clarification of the information I found on the Districtgov web site. To help those that might be inclined to run for a seat on the board of Supervisors, what factor determines the one year of current residency? Are Supervisor elections held in November or May?

I have since learned that a Supervisor must be residents of the State of Florida and a citizen of the United States with no (one year) time requirements. Elections of Supervisors are held in November.

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The board of supervisors you speak of are all associates of the Developer.

I had written more to say below about a private conversation I had with a reliable source that ,if true, would blunt much of what you share. but to what avail.

You can never prove a negative and in that people who speak up are at a distinct disadvantage.

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Rubicon, actually in this case you are wrong. I can tell you from first hand knowledge that ALL of the supervisors are NOT associates of the Developer. I can say this in 100% confidence as I am one of the CDD-10 Supervisors. I can tell you that as of this minute I have never met, spoke to, exchanged emails or text messages with, or to the best of my knowledge even been in the same room as any member of the Morse family or any officer of the development company. Your passive aggressive comments do a great disservice to the many men and wonen of this community that expend a great deal of their time and energy in being CDD Supervisors serving and looking out for the best interest of all the residents of The Villages.

Since moving to The Villages I have heard and read a great deal of castigation and rebuke of District Supervisors with a strong inference that many or all are little more than stooges for the development company. Nothing could be farther from the truth. While I have not spoke to or met all of the supervisors in all the CDDs, the ones I have met have all been individuals who dedicated to making The Villages the best possible place they can to live in retirement, for all the residents. Are any of these people associates or friends of "the developer", I cannot say and would not speculate in any case. What I can say is that all are intelligent people who try to make informed and unbiased decisions that they believe are in the best interests of their respective districts regardless of any perceived desires or influence of "the developer".

Is the CCD form of government the best choice for The Villages? I can't say for sure, but it seems to be working well for now. Odds are that it may some day change to a different form of government but it will be a very difficult transition as the community extends across three counties and a large number of inter-local government agreements exist that would have to be taken into account. One nice thing to consider with our current structure is there is very little of the bloat, bureaucracy, and political infighting that most governments have which keeps the taxes and costs to a low level by comparison.

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Sumter one was started because the good old boy's did not like the folks in The Villages but loved their money. They had all the good old boys on the payroll. Taxes kept going up without controls.
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Perhaps we can at least agree that about the year 2007 the adjective "quaint" loss all of its attractive meaning as respects The Villages?
I think we can all agree that The Villages is no longer "quaint". But apparently we can't agree on much else.
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Based on the following:

Quaint | Definition of Quaint by Merriam-Webster

TV can continue to be called quaint.

I would not agree that "...we can agree TV is no longer quaint..."

Tis all in the eye of the beholder....eh?
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First lifestyle preview was May, 2008. Quaint did not come into mind. What I saw was a Disneyland for adults. Spanish Springs with a feel of Seville Spain and Lake Sumter Landing looking like a Florida Key. The preview included meals, golf, tennis, bowling, a golf cart, and an LSL cottage. Even two bicycles. Walked to the Square where there was a Mustang show and live entertainment. Definitely cool but not quaint.





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I personally like that a private business can achieve what big government cannot. I personally like that a charter school can offer what most school systems in Florida cannot. I have noted that the builder continues to add rec centers and golf courses as they build. And new businesses are attracted to this area now more than they were before because we are bigger and demographers are finally noticing that we are here. The tax payers will become a bigger bunch too and will share the burden of any repairs and additions. Making a profit is how business works and it also allows business to employ people which to me is a very good thing.

SOMEONE is going to build here. I would prefer it is of the quality and have the regulations we now enjoy and that it continues to be an age restricted area.

Check again the map I posted that shows we have the lowest unemployment of any county in the state. Before the Morses came, Sumter was one of the poorest counties with the lowest employment.

A rising tide lifts all ships.

I do not mean to pick your post apart, however, I see many cliff hangers.
Of course private business can achieve what the government cannot.
When one person can own a business versus a Congress, Senate, or what have you, it is no big surprise a business owner can do what he wants, when he wants to do it, etc., and be successful in a short amount of time.

What does TV's Charter School offer that most Florida schools do not?

Yes, there are some new businesses that have opened here, however no Costco (that is a definite barometer regarding demographics).
In addition, using Brownwood as an example, after about five years, many storefronts are still empty,
A huge amount of empty land is sitting there, waiting for the growth to which you refer that isn't here.

The quality of the houses in TV is average and nothing terrific. There are other builders in the area who frankly, build a better quality constructed home.
However, what we have here will certainly last long enough to go on to service other generations.

The problem with the regulations we currently have is that there are too many different ones.
Regulations throughout all of TV would make much more sense if everyone had to abide by the same ones and not by all the different districts or those north of this or south of that, etc.

I think there is plenty of room for a non-age restricted community that has their own recreational benefits. It would be nice to see something other than the thousands of Q-Tip heads that we have here!

I did not see a unemployment map that you said you posted, but Sumter County does not have the lowest unemployment rate in the state.
Wildwood still remains high in unemployment and many live in poverty.
Furthermore, before the Morse family came here, Sumter County had one of the highest amount of unemployed, not the lowest which you indicated.
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I think we can all agree that The Villages is no longer "quaint". But apparently we can't agree on much else.
Was TV ever quaint? I think not.

When I think of quaint, I think of a well-established, old town, where everyone knows everyone else, and the residents go back generations.

TV never was quaint and never will be.
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Rubicon, actually in this case you are wrong. I can tell you from first hand knowledge that ALL of the supervisors are NOT associates of the Developer. I can say this in 100% confidence as I am one of the CDD-10 Supervisors. I can tell you that as of this minute I have never met, spoke to, exchanged emails or text messages with, or to the best of my knowledge even been in the same room as any member of the Morse family or any officer of the development company. Your passive aggressive comments do a great disservice to the many men and wonen of this community that expend a great deal of their time and energy in being CDD Supervisors serving and looking out for the best interest of all the residents of The Villages.

Since moving to The Villages I have heard and read a great deal of castigation and rebuke of District Supervisors with a strong inference that many or all are little more than stooges for the development company. Nothing could be farther from the truth. While I have not spoke to or met all of the supervisors in all the CDDs, the ones I have met have all been individuals who dedicated to making The Villages the best possible place they can to live in retirement, for all the residents. Are any of these people associates or friends of "the developer", I cannot say and would not speculate in any case. What I can say is that all are intelligent people who try to make informed and unbiased decisions that they believe are in the best interests of their respective districts regardless of any perceived desires or influence of "the developer".

Is the CCD form of government the best choice for The Villages? I can't say for sure, but it seems to be working well for now. Odds are that it may some day change to a different form of government but it will be a very difficult transition as the community extends across three counties and a large number of inter-local government agreements exist that would have to be taken into account. One nice thing to consider with our current structure is there is very little of the bloat, bureaucracy, and political infighting that most governments have which keeps the taxes and costs to a low level by comparison.

Don Wiley
CDD-10 Supervisor
Au contraire I do not disparage anyone . And I consider my approach to be assertive and not aggressive and certainly not passive aggressive.

Mt importantly, we are talking about two different Board of Supervisors. I was addressing the Board of Supervisors ( 5 in all) that originally had control of the bond issue,etc , many of whom wield power and influence in this community today and actually continue to set future plans for The Villages.

You are addressing supervisors who have CDD responsibilities and their effect on CDD separately which is a completely different matter entirely.
and so what happens in Vegas (CDD10) stays in Vegas (CDD10).

Once again my only reason for starting this thread was to point out the sensibility of pausing to consider what future building will have on this community.

But we have some posters with circular thinking and it always ends up with them defending the Developer and The Villages, both of which have a large annual marketing and promotional budget to effect a positive image and as such both entities do well on their own.

This circular thinking prevents real discussion as to effective communication county commissioners, local state representatives etc as to concern for the impact of rapid growth, Essentially, I am talking about concerns for the preservation of the quality of living here.

I moved from an idyllic city rated the number one city to live in the nations for better than six consecutive years .
it was and is a great and beautiful place to live but I don't recall residents getting defensive when concerns were addressed rather they joined in to ensure the planning commission mayor, etc understood residents position

It seems we can never have any relevant discuss concerning this community because it always defaults to a defensive position vis a vis corroboration

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Based on the following:

Quaint | Definition of Quaint by Merriam-Webster

TV can continue to be called quaint.

I would not agree that "...we can agree TV is no longer quaint..."

Tis all in the eye of the beholder....eh?
You might want to read the examples this definition cites as examples were quaint is applied. My meaning a small unique college town .

I agree that its all in the eye of the beholder .

I will never understand why people get so stirred up and take personal umbrage when the issue of The Villages ?

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As my teenage son used to say way back when, "Mom. Acknowledge and move on." (Of course, that was usually related to something he was in the doghouse for...)
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As my teenage son used to say way back when, "Mom. Acknowledge and move on." (Of course, that was usually related to something he was in the doghouse for...)
Smart son.
We all should take that advice, present company included!

BTW -- is he still saying that to you???
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Is that like defaulting to "never mind"
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