[dillywho]

Originally Posted by skyguy79

I remember recent discussions where the the legal carrying of a weapon was discussed and thought some might like seeing the video that came to my attention through FaceBook!

Tips When Stopped By Police and Carrying a Firearm - YouTube

We both had the CWL in Texas and we were taught that if/when stopped by police to immediately place your hands palms up in plain view on top of the steering wheel and to not put them out of sight until the officer got to your window and instructed you to do so. We were also instructed to tell the officer that you have your CWL and to present it along with your license. You are only required in Texas to show it if you have your weapon with you. It's just easier if you do it anyway.

I was stopped once, did as I had learned, and all the officer asked me was if I had it with me and where it was. When I told him that it was in the door pocket, all he said was "Would you leave it there, please.", and walked back to his vehicle. When he returned, he gave me back my licenses and told me to have a nice day.

One of the primary reasons I got a CWL was that we used to travel quite a bit and I could not be left in the vehicle with a gun without one. (You are in violation if you are in a vehicle alone with a handgun and do not have a permit even if someone else does.) I did not get out everytime my husband did nor did he when I got out. I also felt much safer having it when I had to work swing or midnight shifts since our plant was located some 20 miles outside of town or when I had to be home alone when he was working those or sometimes a double shift.

Under no circumstances could you display your gun. If the outline could be detected under your clothing, that was considered display and you could be arrested for not having it concealed since Texas is a Concealed Carry State.

[Figmo Bohica]

Originally Posted by BobKat1

Is there a maximum age for obtaining a CWL? It probably varies by state, but curious as to the general age limit if they exist.

IAW federal law you must be 21 years old to purchase a hundgun. Without doing lots of checking I believe that all the states require CWL holders to be 21 years of age, IAW federal handgun ownership laws. There is a court case moving slowly in Texas to give 18 year olds the right to have a CWL. What the status of that case is I don't know as I have not been following it that closely.

If you want to check the facts, google Gun Facts Version 6 and read the complete report, below is just one myth that is busted concerning firearms.

Myth: Guns are not effective in preventing crime against women

Fact: Of the 2,500,000 annual self-defense cases using guns, more than 7.7% (192,500) are by women defending themselves against sexual abuse.

Fact: When a woman was armed with a gun or knife, only 3% of rape attacks are completed, compared to 32% when unarmed.

Fact: The probability of serious injury from an attack is 2.5 times greater for women offering no resistance than for women resisting with a gun. Men also benefit from using a gun, but the benefits are smaller at 1.4 times more likely to receive a serious injury.

Fact: 28.5% of women have a gun in the house.

Fact: 41.7% of women either own or have rapid access to guns.

Fact: In 1966, the city of Orlando responded to a wave of sexual assaults by offering firearms training classes to women. Rapes dropped by nearly 90% the following year. ABC News, July 17, 2001

Just a few more facts.

Myth: Guns are not a good deterrent to crime

Fact: Guns prevent an estimated 2.5 million crimes a year, or 6,849 every day. Often the gun is never fired and no blood (including the criminal’s) is shed.

Fact: It seems to be slowing down property crime (especially burglaries).

Fact: Every day, 550 rapes, 1,100 murders, and 5,200 other violent crimes are prevented just by showing a gun. In less than 0.9% of these instances is the gun ever actually fired.

Everyone have a nice day.

[billethkid]

FB, what you presented above will never, ever be seen or heard via the public media. It is counter to the distorted image they prefer to brainwash the masses with.

btk

[BobKat1]

Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica

IAW federal law you must be 21 years old to purchase a hundgun. Without doing lots of checking I believe that all the states require CWL holders to be 21 years of age, IAW federal handgun ownership laws. There is a court case moving slowly in Texas to give 18 year olds the right to have a CWL. What the status of that case is I don't know as I have not been following it that closely.

If you want to check the facts, google Gun Facts Version 6 and read the complete report, below is just one myth that is busted concerning firearms.

Myth: Guns are not effective in preventing crime against women

Fact: Of the 2,500,000 annual self-defense cases using guns, more than 7.7% (192,500) are by women defending themselves against sexual abuse.

Fact: When a woman was armed with a gun or knife, only 3% of rape attacks are completed, compared to 32% when unarmed.

Fact: The probability of serious injury from an attack is 2.5 times greater for women offering no resistance than for women resisting with a gun. Men also benefit from using a gun, but the benefits are smaller at 1.4 times more likely to receive a serious injury.

Fact: 28.5% of women have a gun in the house.

Fact: 41.7% of women either own or have rapid access to guns.

Fact: In 1966, the city of Orlando responded to a wave of sexual assaults by offering firearms training classes to women. Rapes dropped by nearly 90% the following year. ABC News, July 17, 2001

Just a few more facts.

Myth: Guns are not a good deterrent to crime

Fact: Guns prevent an estimated 2.5 million crimes a year, or 6,849 every day. Often the gun is never fired and no blood (including the criminal’s) is shed.

Fact: It seems to be slowing down property crime (especially burglaries).

Fact: Every day, 550 rapes, 1,100 murders, and 5,200 other violent crimes are prevented just by showing a gun. In less than 0.9% of these instances is the gun ever actually fired.

Everyone have a nice day.

FB, thanks for the information. I was wondering about a maximum age for carrying. As we age (and don't I know!) ones reflexes, judgement etc. aren't what they used to be. Elderly/aging men and women carrying weapons could present a different set of potential safelty problems for them and those around them. Something to consider, especially in retirement communities. I haven't seen any data one way or another just a thought.

[Figmo Bohica]

Originally Posted by BobKat1

FB, thanks for the information. I was wondering about a maximum age for carrying. As we age (and don't I know!) ones reflexes, judgement etc. aren't what they used to be. Elderly/aging men and women carrying weapons could present a different set of potential safelty problems for them and those around them. Something to consider, especially in retirement communities. I haven't seen any data one way or another just a thought.

Neither have I seem anything about a maximum carry age requirement. Sort of think it is the same for the driving requirement. (That's a joke.) Found a patch on the internet that sort of sums it up.

"Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he's too old to fight, he'll just kill you."

Once we reach a certain age, avoidance and deterrence will be come my way to live, just as I do now. Remember your first choice of self protection should be your cell phone and avoiding things that will put you or your in harms way.

BTW, there is a new club just getting started in The Villages, its called the Villages Straight Shooters. They meet on the third Thursday night, 6:30 PM, Sea Breeze Rec Center, that is tonight. The VSS has a website, The Villages Straight Shooters Club - Home

Also the VSSs will be offering classes on firearm safety and will be doing some shooting at a local range for any one that is interested in learning how of SAFELY handle a firearm. Come on out and visit with the VSS members and see if this is something that you would like to do. All Villagers are welcome.

[TV-4-2]

Figmo Bohica; thanks for letting us know about that club.
We were wondering where/how to get some practice regularly and who to contact.
You solved it!
See ya there, once we get sold/bought/moved.
Larry

[Vinny]

I often wonder why those that think TV is so safe lock thir doors and windows when they go out and do the same when they park their cars. Many forget that TV has a large percentage of renters and problem children living with their parents. According to the Sheriff giving the talk when we moved here, they commit about 93% of the crime in TV. Heavens yes, there is crime in TV. If you look for it you will find the news stories. If you wear blinders and buy into the slice of heaven safest place on earth thing then you will be oblivious.

Just talk to a Disney ex employee to find out how crime free the happiest place on earth really is. Appearances can be deceiving and if we protect ourselves based only on what dangers befall those we know, we would be vulnerable to all the horrors that befall those we do not know. And that is considerable If I knew where I would need a gun I just would not go there. I also find it amusing when people disparage gun owners or gun carriers due to the actions of a very small minority but would not think to do the same to those who drink alcohol. I am not muh of a drinker and yet have to put up with drunks at the Town Squares whenever I go there at night. Just do not understand the need to drink in our slice of heaven.

I am one of those people who have avoided violence with my gun. Both times while at places I thought were very safe. Too many people buy insurance, install burglar alarms, etc. after the need arises. Not going to do that with my life. Too many are naive as they have not been exposed to crime yet. I know a few of them who went from anti guns to not enough guns. . As I tell others, I will not complain about your drunk car and cart diving if you do not complain about the gun you do not even know I am carrying. In most cases those who are against guns do not even know how they work or the gun laws that govern their use. Hard to present an educated opinion on that basis.

[rp001]

The question reminded me of an episode of the tv show COPS many yrs ago..An officer responding to a suspicious person call, by an elderly female, was approacing the house when 6 shots rang out from a revolver..

The officer eventually made contact with the elderly lady and she stated that she saw a shadow out the back door,was afraid,and unloaded..There was never any evidence found of any attempt of intrusion or blood trails..

The officer admonished the lady about target acquisition...Then helped her reload her gun and put it back in her nightstand..True story..ONLY IN TEXAS...

Gotta love them

[CarGuys]

BTW, there is a new club just getting started in The Villages, its called the Villages Straight Shooters. They meet on the third Thursday night, 6:30 PM, Sea Breeze Rec Center, that is tonight. The VSS has a website, The Villages Straight Shooters Club * - Home

Also the VSSs will be offering classes on firearm safety and will be doing some shooting at a local range for any one that is interested in learning how of SAFELY handle a firearm. Come on out and visit with the VSS members and see if this is something that you would like to do. All Villagers are welcome.

Thanks for the information. Will have to come visit when were down there.

[wendyquat]

I don't LIKE guns and never have BUT I do have a concealed weapon permit. I may or may not carry a concealed weapon but that's for me to know and maybe for you to wonder about! Especially if you are intending me harm! You may think twice with so many permits being issued!

[buggyone]

If a person who had not visited The Villages read these posts, they would think it is a gun toting Dodge City. The poster who said he puts up with drunks every time he visits the town squares is ridiculous. Very, very seldom have I seen a drunk person there.

I have not seen any violence in the 3 years I have been in The Villages from anyone. Ridiculous to carry a pistol in The Villages.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by buggyone

If a person who had not visited The Villages read these posts, they would think it is a gun toting Dodge City. The poster who said he puts up with drunks every time he visits the town squares is ridiculous. Very, very seldom have I seen a drunk person there.

I have not seen any violence in the 3 years I have been in The Villages from anyone. Ridiculous to carry a pistol in The Villages.

Well there was the Tea Party cheerleader here in the Villages who heard a noise in her house and proceeded to get her loaded pistol out of her nightstand and then shot the vacuum cleaner. I guess it had moved in the middle of the night as something leaning against a wall sometimes does.

In the seven years I have been in the Villages, there have been a couple of shootings usually involving domestic violence of some kind. Or, at least, domestic disputes involving a son ****ed off at a man wooing his mother as well as a retired law enforcement officer who got into a dispute with his wife which turned violent. http://www.northjersey.com/news/Reti...t_by_wife.html There was also the Miller case. http://rightinflorida.blogspot.com/2...completed.html

There have been a few suicides too with firearms of various kinds. Notably that of Melinda Duckett which happened here in the Villages back in 2006. http://www.wftv.com/news/news/mother...cide-no/nJsbK/

[Figmo Bohica]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Well there was the Tea Party cheerleader here in the Villages who heard a noise in her house and proceeded to get her loaded pistol out of her nightstand and then shot the vacuum cleaner. I guess it had moved in the middle of the night as something leaning against a wall sometimes does.

Vacuum cleaners are very dangerous, hope that it did not suffer. Now, what if that had been her grandchild or child. Before pulling the trigger now what your target is and what is behind it. The answer to all her problems would have been a good defensive class and the proper use of a tactical illumination device (flashlight, for those that are tactically challenged). With proper training the vacuum cleaner would still be alive and doing it job. She is a and should have had her cwl pulled.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica

Vacuum cleaners are very dangerous, hope that it did not suffer. Now, what if that had been her grandchild or child. Before pulling the trigger now what your target is and what is behind it. The answer to all her problems would have been a good defensive class and the proper use of a tactical illumination device (flashlight, for those that are tactically challenged). With proper training the vacuum cleaner would still be alive and doing it job. She is a and should have had her cwl pulled.

I doubt if she had/has a concealed weapon permit. As far as I know, she would not be in any situation where she could need a concealed weapon.

There are various people who would definitely need a concealed weapon permit like business people who transfer valuable items as well as women/men who have had threats of some kind made against them. Usually these involve relationships gone bad or a stalker of some kind.

[buggyone]

In those cases mentioned, if the homes did not have guns in them - would the situation have occured? Would the wife have stabbed her husband in the shower? Would the suicides have taken place with other means? Would the display of a rolled up pair of dirty socks intimidate someone in a parking lot?

Take guns out of the equation and the situation just might turn out a lot different.