[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

That's true in theory.

In practice, however, it appears that rules are made in such abundance that it is not possible to avoid breaking one. Whether that is by design or just happenstance, it works out well for law enforcement.

True not just in theory. The rest is just excuses.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Couldn't agree more

Current # of laws: Database Coverage: 4,160,185 laws and counting.

Amazing that God only needed 10

Moses didn't have a laptop, and stone tablets are heavy. Moses managed to only drop one on his climb back down the mountan. Even Moses lied about the 15 commandments, said there were only 10. Number 11 was "thou shall not speed nor alter thy golf cart". How do I know? Sorry, God has sworn me to secrecy.
God makes up new rules every day in hopes that humans will quit acting like entitled brats and at least try to be good members of an orderly society.

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Couldn't agree more

Current # of laws: Database Coverage: 4,160,185 laws and counting.

Amazing that God only needed 10

If everyone just followed the first 10, we wouldn't need the other 4,160,175

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

If everyone just followed the first 10, we wouldn't need the other 4,160,175

Agree. But didn't Carlin distill it down to 1? Much better!

[Bilyclub]

Originally Posted by Normal

The Villages is a very unique animal for law enforcement services. If you live in the unincorporated section (which many or most do), you only have the county sheriff’s or state troopers at your disposal. If you live in Lady Lake, Fruitland Park, Wildwood or Leesburg, you have supposedly augmented law enforcement support.

What really seems to be going on for the most part (not always) is the county dispatches for any unincorporated calls, and local law enforcement only responds to the areas in their jurisdiction.

The great disparity is those who are in Wildwood or another municipality end up paying for the total law enforcement for the unincorporated while still paying for their own police departments as well.

Unincorporated villigaers get out of paying for local enforcement and are prioritized for sheriff respoce all the while municipal residents pay for both. What is even more disturbing is the county department has to be manned at such a level for being the only responder which isn’t typical in most areas of the country. Rural here, is village upon village with several thousand residents so yes, more than usual are needed for the “unincorporated “.

To say that TV is getting a deal from Sumter County for law enforcement without any evidence is pretty far fetched. What about all the other unincorporated areas in the county? Are they freeloaders too? The Sumter County Sheriff’s presence in TV is pretty limited compared to police coverage in towns like Wildwood. Fruitland Park, and Lady Lake.

[Normal]

Originally Posted by Bilyclub

To say that TV is getting a deal from Sumter County for law enforcement without any evidence is pretty far fetched. What about all the other unincorporated areas in the county? Are they freeloaders too? The Sumter County Sheriff’s presence in TV is pretty limited compared to police coverage in towns like Wildwood. Fruitland Park, and Lady Lake.

Villages Wildwood residents from CDD’s 9,10,12,13 and 15 pay for the county sheriff and the local Wildwood PD. They have the Wildwood police department respond to their calls. However, their sheriff’s department responds to calls outside their very own

To say they don’t pay more than their fair share is FARFETCHED. They do have to pay for the augmented sheriffs’s staff required for those who don’t have a police department as well as their own local PD.

The total population of Wildwood is almost 20,000. The population of Sumter County is about 152,000. I would say their incorporated residents do have the unfair burden of paying for quite a few who pay nothing for municipal law enforcement.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Normal

Villages Wildwood residents from CDD’s 9,10,12,13 and 15 pay for the county sheriff and the local Wildwood PD. They have the Wildwood police department respond to their calls. However, their sheriff’s department responds to calls outside their very own

To say they don’t pay more than their fair share is FARFETCHED. They do have to pay for the augmented sheriffs’s staff required for those who don’t have a police department as well as their own local PD.

The total population of Wildwood is almost 20,000. The population of Sumter County is about 152,000. I would say their incorporated residents do have the unfair burden of paying for quite a few who pay nothing for municipal law enforcement.

Ridiculous!

Sumter County Sheriff provides service to ALL Sumter County, Wildwood included.

Wildwood gets ADDITIONAL coverage from Wildwood police. For that ADDITIONAL coverage (and more services from Wildwood) they pay Wildwood taxes.

Who are these "quite a few who pay nothing for municipal law enforcement?" Are you referring to me since I don't pay Wildwood taxes? In return for not paying those taxes I also don't receive Wildwood services. Do you want the entire county to pay for services limited to the incorporated areas???

[Normal]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Ridiculous!

Sumter County Sheriff provides service to ALL Sumter County, Wildwood included.

Wildwood gets ADDITIONAL coverage from Wildwood police. For that ADDITIONAL coverage (and more services from Wildwood) they pay Wildwood taxes.

Who are these "quite a few who pay nothing for municipal law enforcement?" Are you referring to me since I don't pay Wildwood taxes? In return for not paying those taxes I also don't receive Wildwood services. Do you want the entire county to pay for services limited to the incorporated areas???

So you are saying they don’t need the extra personnel in the sheriff’s office? I’m for cutting the sheriff’s department personnel back! Let’s get it done. Taxes are already way to high in Sumter county. Collectively residents paid 56 million last year for the department and this years budget has grown to more than 60 million dollars!

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Normal

So you are saying they don’t need the extra personnel in the sheriff’s office? I’m for cutting the sheriff’s department personnel back! Let’s get it done. Taxes are already way to high in Sumter county. Collectively residents paid 56 million last year for the department and this years budget has grown to more than 60 million dollars!

You're gonna have to highlight the words in my post that implied anything like that.

[bopat]

I blame teachers and parents. Don't need law enforcement if everybody's doing the right things.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by bopat

I blame teachers and parents. Don't need law enforcement if everybody's doing the right things.

Seems to make sense. Apparently there is a flaw somewhere in our makeup, and we can be bad, oh so bad.
Also, making parent/family responsible for raising good members of society makes them accountable for bad actions of their kids? So, families responsible for raising "bad actor" would not be able to sue for anything that happens to "bad actor" during interaction with authority. In addition, they could be held accountable for failure to train and teach proper behavior.
This could get really interesting ( think " crazy").

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by bopat

I blame teachers and parents. Don't need law enforcement if everybody's doing the right things.

Oh, and don't let clergy off the hook, either. Apparently they are not getting the message through to their congregations. See folks straight out of church acting pushy, entitled, angry, running lights, speeding, etc.

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by Normal

Villages Wildwood residents from CDD’s 9,10,12,13 and 15 pay for the county sheriff and the local Wildwood PD. They have the Wildwood police department respond to their calls. However, their sheriff’s department responds to calls outside their very own

I can't speak for CDDs 12, 13 and 15, but CDDs 9 & 10 don't have any of their boundaries within the Wildwood city limits. If you have a map showing otherwise, please share it.

[bopat]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Oh, and don't let clergy off the hook, either. Apparently they are not getting the message through to their congregations. See folks straight out of church acting pushy, entitled, angry, running lights, speeding, etc.

Can say politicians too, they feed off that stuff. But the roots are with parents and teachers.

[ElDiabloJoe]

Originally Posted by Normal

...I’m for cutting the sheriff’s department personnel back! Let’s get it done. Taxes are already way to high in Sumter county.

Huh. So, you're a Defund The Police guy. Noted.
Oh, by the way, it's TOO, not TO.