[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Windguy

I thought I posted this video a few days ago, but I can't find it, so I'm trying again. It's done by a science educator (Derek Muller) who regularly posts fascinating videos on his Veratasium (element of truth) YouTube channel. If the link doesn't work for you, search YouTube for "veratasium driverless cars".

https://youtu.be/yjztvddhZmI?si=UnRc_F_7rw0f2VHe

Driver-less cars would drive better than the dorks that drive around The Villages when it is crowded in the winter.

[FredMitchell]

There are many things wrong with fanboy's analysis. Cat III approach and landings ARE controlled by many humans - ATC - Radar controllers, tower controllers, ground controllers, and the crew in the airplane! Enroute, departure, and approach controllers are responsible for maintaining 5 mile and 2000 foot vertical separation. They will let you closer if you as the pilot report seeing the traffic. Then you are responsible for separation. The tower is in charge of the entire environment of any CAT III eligible approaches - they are rare. They also require additional inspections and currency of the crew and aircraft. MOST aircraft and crew are not permitted to use them. The airport is closed to all other traffic during a CAT III approach until the runway has been cleared.

Millions or billions of miles. That is like the employee with 25 years of experience - doing exactly one job - i.e. 25 times one. AI is very complex. Just having more data does not necessarily improve the solutions. It may even make it harder to improve.

One major hurdle that automated cars still haven't solved is left turns without traffic control. Deer are a serious problem, especially in the rutting season in many areas of the country, but not in the deserts where the cars have amassed their mileage. If they could solve that problem, insurance companies would see to it that the necessary hardware and software would be in cars in those states through lower premiums. Animal behavior changes with geography and seasons.

Lane management works when it does, but not very well when it doesn't. It gets scary at the roundabout bypasses. It also relies on clearly visible lane painting. In the rain, at night, in many areas of NJ, seeing the lines can be a problem. Many places have used reflectors to help solve the lack of permanence of traffic lines. Lane management could even cause drivers to continue driving when they are too tired to do so safely.

GPS works with radio waves. They have an annoying feature of bouncing off metal structures introducing significant errors. You won't be seeing broad acceptance of autonomous cars in this decade. BTW, the average age of vehicles on the road is now over 12 years and increasing.

There were also repeated of claims of better safety than average. But no data to back it up. To be comparable, the locations need to be the same for automated and non-automated.

Sorry. Not pulling into that restaurant. It is not on your itinerary. Nope, not the mall either. You need to decide ahead of time. LOL

How much was fanboy paid? By whom? How was he paid? Scientists now need to report that as part of their reports.

[Altavia]

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https://youtu.be/U6vyb7IYzSI?si=jPF_gQdxVAvGbbo_

[biker1]

If you are referring to an unprotected left hand turn, Tesla's FSD handles those well, albeit it is still level 2. Regarding Waymo, which is essentially level 4 within their geo-mapped areas, I can only assume it handles those also otherwise it would have to go out of it's way to route around those. I suspect it is the former. It should be easy enough to look at some YouTube videos of Waymo to verify this. YouTube videos of Tesla's FSD handling unprotected left hand turns are really impressive.

Originally Posted by FredMitchell

One major hurdle that automated cars still haven't solved is left turns without traffic control.

[Philipd411]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Why You Should Want Driverless Cars On Roads Now?

Because you want more accidents with higher insurance premiums, and the ability of your car to kill you. Not to mention what a hacker could do to that idea.

That is just not true. Once the tech is figured out accidents will become very rare. You will get in a car traveling at 120 miles in hour. There will be no traffic jams.

[collie1228]

We have a car that drives itself on the highway using lane centering and adaptive cruise control but your hands must always be on the wheel. I like it - it allows me to drive much longer than I would normally be able to do, since my driving workload is significantly reduced. However, when I see the latest Ford truck self-driving commercial, with the driver totally disconnected from the road while towing a trailer, it makes me very nervous. For example, our lane centering turns off when in a construction zone where there are no lane markers, and the system cannot see a flagman or police officer giving you hand signal directions. How does the Ford system account for these very common situations?

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Normal

Until, a part breaks that is crucial for operation (metal and electrical components never break…/s) and the program for the car can’t solve the problem.

Parts break now, and humans screw up or " can't solve the problem ". Take the human behavior out of the equation and things may not be perfect, but they will be better and safer

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by collie1228

We have a car that drives itself on the highway using lane centering and adaptive cruise control but your hands must always be on the wheel. I like it - it allows me to drive much longer than I would normally be able to do, since my driving workload is significantly reduced. However, when I see the latest Ford truck self-driving commercial, with the driver totally disconnected from the road while towing a trailer, it makes me very nervous. For example, our lane centering turns off when in a construction zone where there are no lane markers, and the system cannot see a flagman or police officer giving you hand signal directions. How does the Ford system account for these very common situations?

AI will be able to "see" and adapt faster then humans. It ain't ready yet, but it's coming. And sooner than we think.

[patfla06]

I will NEVER want driverless cars on the road, especially in the roundabouts!!

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by patfla06

I will NEVER want driverless cars on the road, especially in the roundabouts!!

AI will work perfectly. Not like human personalities, one trying to shove in or crowd out other, less aggressive drivers. Or speeding up to see if they can beat others coming around. Aggressive drivers trying to intimidate others.