[karostay]

maybe in 10 years

[Topspinmo]

How about 787 Dreamliner made in South Carolina? No I won’t do the research for you?

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by DeanFL

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Folks - no big deal - but, just to clarify... the question is solely regarding flying in the Boeing 737MAX. Not COVID, not general air travel.

Personally, I would - if that's the airframe on the day/route/airline I booked.
FAA and Boeing absolutely know - a crash on the MAX, and FAA would be under serious suspicion, and Boeing would be close-to-fatal.

I am not an aircraft engineer by any means, but Boeing's (unbelievably STUPID) decision to include a single point of failure (only one AOA sensor as sole input activating the MCAS system), MCAS coverup, and Boeing's decision to not require pilot training.

Exactly, bottom line - highly experienced (and well paid) avionics engineers were "retired" and systems design work sent to contract engineers in India who never even rode on an aircraft.

It's a beautiful aircraft and I'd fly now that the design has thoroughly analyzed and corrected

Boeing 737 Max Safety System Was Vetoed, Engineer Says - The New York Times

[collie1228]

Originally Posted by ts12755

Both were unskilled pilots.

That may be true, but their lack of training didn't cause the accidents. Boeing designed and installed a system (MCAS) that would automatically push the plane's nose down if the system detected a possible stall. And they designed a single point of failure system, which is a giant no-no in the aeronautics business. And to make things even worse, they never mentioned this system in the plane's documentation nor required any special training for pilots. The sensor failed in both cases, the planes detected a stall that wasn't there, and the planes MCAS systems continued to push the nose down over and over again, completely overwhelming the pilots. Boeing also had a corporate culture that was punishing to whistle blowers, at the same time that Boeing executives were involved in cozy relationships with the FAA regulators, who were supposed to be looking over Boeing's shoulder as they designed such systems. This was a major fiasco, not caused by anything done or not done by the pilots.

[biker1]

Partially true. Better pilots may have realized there was a trim problem and disabled the automatic trim (switch behind the trim wheels) and manually trimmed out the plane. Kind of curious that the crashes occurred with airlines from 3rd world countries. This is not to suggest that Boeing is without fault.

Originally Posted by collie1228

That may be true, but their lack of training didn't cause the accidents. Boeing designed and installed a system (MCAS) that would automatically push the plane's nose down if the system detected a possible stall. And they designed a single point of failure system, which is a giant no-no in the aeronautics business. And to make things even worse, they never mentioned this system in the plane's documentation nor required any special training for pilots. The sensor failed in both cases, the planes detected a stall that wasn't there, and the planes MCAS systems continued to push the nose down over and over again, completely overwhelming the pilots. Boeing also had a corporate culture that was punishing to whistle blowers, at the same time that Boeing executives were involved in cozy relationships with the FAA regulators, who were supposed to be looking over Boeing's shoulder as they designed such systems. This was a major fiasco, not caused by anything done or not done by the pilots.

[Velvet]

Yes, but just in case, I’d make sure my will is updated.

[Topspinmo]

On some route’s you probably don’t have choice?

[FenneyGuy]

Absolutely.