[gomoho]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

I think that the point is that people get killed every day. Many of them by violence at the hand of another. Why is this case all over the national news? Why is it being broadcast live every day when none of the thousands of other cases are not?

Simple - Al Sharpton and race. Pitiful.

[buggyone]

Originally Posted by gomoho

Simple - Al Sharpton and race. Pitiful.

Not just Al Sharpton but others also decided it was time to show that it was not right for a shooting of an unarmed teen be swept under the rug. Florida's governor appointed a special prosecutor who had Zimmerman arrested and charged with 2nd degree murder.

I disagree with the "pitiful".

[NJblue]

Can anyone explain the importance of the fact that the gun George Zimmerman had had a bullet in the chamber? Both attorney analysts on WESH 2 news said it was significant. To me it is a complete non-issue. If Zimmerman chose to walk around with a bullet in the chamber, why does this suddenly add to a murder charge? As was pointed out, the police would typically also have a bullet in the chamber. Clearly, he had been carrying it in that way for as long as he owned it so it wasn't as if he was on a "hunting" expedition. If he did have to take time to chamber a bullet and if indeed his life was at risk, he would never had been able to do so and he would now be dead. To me, they are grasping at straws if that's all they have.

[Patty55]

Originally Posted by gomoho

Simple - Al Sharpton and race. Pitiful.

Let's not forget that the family hired a public relations expert early on.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Patty55

Let's not forget that the family hired a public relations expert early on.

This is almost like a rerun of Sharpton and the Brawley case in the 80's. This is about HIM and those who will be swayed by his politics.

Early on is an understatement. First press conference was held TEN days after the tragic death. A call was made prior to that for media coverage by activists. In less than THIRTY days after the incident, Sharpton was calling for unrest and the POTUS was discussing the case publicly.

By the way, the Brawley fiasco by Sharpton made him a "name"....the case was thrown out of court, and it set back race relations a ton.

In late June he was setting it all up for violence in case he does not get HIS JUSTICE.

YEP...it is pitiful.

[gomoho]

Originally Posted by NJblue

Can anyone explain the importance of the fact that the gun George Zimmerman had had a bullet in the chamber? Both attorney analysts on WESH 2 news said it was significant. To me it is a complete non-issue. If Zimmerman chose to walk around with a bullet in the chamber, why does this suddenly add to a murder charge? As was pointed out, the police would typically also have a bullet in the chamber. Clearly, he had been carrying it in that way for as long as he owned it so it wasn't as if he was on a "hunting" expedition. If he did have to take time to chamber a bullet and if indeed his life was at risk, he would never had been able to do so and he would now be dead. To me, they are grasping at straws if that's all they have.

NJBlue and I assuming that is for New Jersey - welcome to the south.

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by gomoho

Simple - Al Sharpton and race. Pitiful.

If your unarmed son was shot and killed and no one would investigate, who would you call? On the one hand, investigators said there was not enough evidence to make an arrest, but on the other hand they refused to be out looking for evidence.

How many people lost their jobs because of their handling of this case? The former Seminole County Prosecutor, who refused to press charges, is gone, the Seminole County Sheriff, who oversaw the investigation, is gone, Chief Detective Chris Serino is now a patrol officer.

The demonstations, that resulted in charges being filed, were peaceful. I attended almost all of them, plus a memorial service in Clearwater and another one in St Petersburg. There was nothing but love at these gatherings. All we wanted was justice for Trayvon, and soon we will have it, regardless of what the jury decides.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by janmcn

If your unarmed son was shot and killed and no one would investigate, who would you call? On the one hand, investigators said there was not enough evidence to make an arrest, but on the other hand they refused to be out looking for evidence.

How many people lost their jobs because of their handling of this case? The former Seminole County Prosecutor, who refused to press charges, is gone, the Seminole County Sheriff, who oversaw the investigation, is gone, Chief Detective Chris Serino is now a patrol officer.

The demonstations, that resulted in charges being filed, were peaceful. I attended almost all of them, plus a memorial service in Clearwater and another one in St Petersburg. There was nothing but love at these gatherings. All we wanted was justice for Trayvon, and soon we will have it, regardless of what the jury decides.

Jan. That last sentence sounds kinda scary. Do you mean that people will seek George Zimmerman out and kill him if the jury finds him innocent of second degree murder?

[DougB]

I see nothing scary in the last sentence. I believe jan was implying a trial and a decision by a jury as to guilty or not guilty will be justice.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by DougB

I see nothing scary in the last sentence. I believe jan was implying a trial and a decision by a jury as to guilty or not guilty will be justice.

Sorry Jan and Doug. I misunderstood.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Sorry Jan and Doug. I misunderstood.

Mr Sharpton has already questioned whether an all white jury can bring a fair decision, so I suppose you can do the logic. AND he has said that MORE than twice....what, oh what might he be up to.

See his past for clues....

PS..Mr Crump, the Martin family atty (and considered the top race atty) expressed concern to Sharpton that a verdict against Zimmerman could create riots. Go figure. Why would two men who have careers deeply immersed in racial provocation, be discussing unrest BEFORE the trial even began ?

[Patty55]

Originally Posted by Bucco

This is almost like a rerun of Sharpton and the Brawley case in the 80's. This is about HIM and those who will be swayed by his politics.

Early on is an understatement. First press conference was held TEN days after the tragic death. A call was made prior to that for media coverage by activists. In less than THIRTY days after the incident, Sharpton was calling for unrest and the POTUS was discussing the case publicly.

By the way, the Brawley fiasco by Sharpton made him a "name"....the case was thrown out of court, and it set back race relations a ton.

In late June he was setting it all up for violence in case he does not get HIS JUSTICE.

YEP...it is pitiful.

For those that don't remember Sharpton's past .....

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/03/bo...ndal.html?_r=0


It's like deja vu all over again.

[Patty55]

Originally Posted by buggyone

The EMT's, the Family Clinic nurse, and the Chief Pathologist all say that Zimmerman's wounds were 'insignificant". The swelling on the nose went away completely by the next morning and the two scratches on the head were taken care of with a band-aid.

When you are being beaten you don't know the extent of your injuries or how long it will last. It's not like they beat you, hand you a mirror and you think it insignificant. When you are in that position the only thing you can focus on is to make it stop.

[NJblue]

Originally Posted by Patty55

When you are being beaten you don't know the extent of your injuries or how long it will last. It's not like they beat you, hand you a mirror and you think it insignificant. When you are in that position the only thing you can focus on is to make it stop.

I don't know how many times I have hit my head against something and it hurt like hell - yet the hit wasn't even hard enough to break the scalp at all. So, I imagine that these hits felt like they could be lethal. Plus, the cries for help had been going on for approximately 45 seconds which would normally signal to someone who is hitting you that you are effectively beaten - yet the beating was actually escalating to the banging of the head against the pavement. In light of the duration of the beating and the escalation I can easily see where Zimmerman could be in fear that the blows would continue until he died or suffered severe injury.

It's so easy to sit in your living room and with the benefit of hindsight second guess Zimmerman's actions - especially if so doing bolsters your world view of "gun bunnies".

[Mallory]

This exercise is just a trial (sic) run for the civil action that will come next. Can you say Morgan & Morgan?