[Patty55]

Originally Posted by buggyone

Well, the judge said the State showed enough evidence in their argument that the trial can proceed for 2nd degree murder. Zimmerman's high priced mouthpiece failed to convince the judge to toss the case.

I think asking them to dismiss is just a formality.

[mickey100]

Originally Posted by gomoho

Fair enough - and today the medical examiner said he changed his opinion and the amount of marijuana in Trayvon's blood could have affected his judgement - yet the judge would not allow that testimony.

Never hear anything about Zimmerman on amphetmaines - could you please provide a link.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/im...ems.report.pdf

The drugs are listed on the first page

[buggyone]

The analysts on FOX were almost guaranteeing the dismissal would happen. The judge could have lessened it to manslaughter but obviously thinks the proper charge is 2nd degree murder.

[Patty55]

Originally Posted by mickey100

Google Zimmerman and drugs. I cannot find the actual report, just many references to the report, which is why I referred in the original post to "alleged" drug use. One of the attorneys (Crump) also spoke publicly about Zimmerman's drug use. Crump said Zimmerman should have been tested for drugs the night of the shooting. I found numerous references to a fire and EMS report that says Zimmerman was on the medications Librax and Temazepam at the time of the incident.

Crump? The same Crump that can't be pinned down for a deposition? This Crump....

Benjamin Crump and Subornation of Perjury – The “Horse Shedding” Of Witness #8 (Repost with full prior comments) | The Last Refuge

Sorry, Mr. Crump (IMO) is no better that Sharpton. If they had their tongues notarized I still wouldn't believe either one of them.

[mickey100]

Originally Posted by Patty55

Crump? The same Crump that can't be pinned down for a deposition? This Crump....

Benjamin Crump and Subornation of Perjury – The “Horse Shedding” Of Witness #8 (Repost with full prior comments) | The Last Refuge

Sorry, Mr. Crump (IMO) is no better that Sharpton. If they had their tongues notarized I still wouldn't believe either one of them.

I guess you failed to see my previous post has been edited. The actual report is now linked and the drugs are listed on the first page.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/im...ems.report.pdf

[Patty55]

Originally Posted by mickey100

I guess you failed to see my post has been edited. The actual report is now linked and the drugs are listed on the first page.

Nope, saw it, apparently GZ has ulcers and insomnia.

[gomoho]

Originally Posted by mickey100

I guess you failed to see my previous post has been edited. The actual report is now linked and the drugs are listed on the first page.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/im...ems.report.pdf

OMG are you kidding me???? These are prescription drugs - not recreational like the marijuana Trayvon was smoking. This just keeps getting more ridiculous.

[gomoho]

Originally Posted by buggyone

The analysts on FOX were almost guaranteeing the dismissal would happen. The judge could have lessened it to manslaughter but obviously thinks the proper charge is 2nd degree murder.

I would have felt a lot more comfortable with the judge's decision if she had taken the weekend to mull it over, but to instantly say "nope - charges stand make me believe she is either afraid to dismiss the charges because of the reprecusion or inept. Should have at least pretended like she would think about the argument - instead of demonstrating she had her mind made up before hearing the arguments.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by buggyone

Well, the judge said the State showed enough evidence in their argument that the trial can proceed for 2nd degree murder. Zimmerman's high priced mouthpiece failed to convince the judge to toss the case.

This request is SOP in a criminal trial.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by gomoho

Fair enough - and today the medical examiner said he changed his opinion and the amount of marijuana in Trayvon's blood could have affected his judgement - yet the judge would not allow that testimony.

This could provide the basis for a mistrial.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Patty55

Nope, saw it, apparently GZ has ulcers and insomnia.

With the amounts of serious crime that community was experiencing had I resided therein I would have suffered a high level of anxiety. Throw in some valium to the mix. I too would have "carried" until I could move out. An area in one of the cities in which I spend significant time has similar crime statistics. It is known as "The War Zone" to the populace and even referred to as such by the local press. I never ever drive through it at night and only rarely during daylight.

[buggyone]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

With the amounts of serious crime that community was experiencing had I resided therein I would have suffered a high level of anxiety. Throw in some valium to the mix. I too would have "carried" until I could move out. An area in one of the cities in which I spend significant time has similar crime statistics. It is known as "The War Zone" to the populace and even referred to as such by the local press. I never ever drive through it at night and only rarely during daylight.

I missed some of the testimony, I guess. What serious crime did Twin Lakes Retreat have ongoing besides a few burglaries?

I doubt if the prescription drugs that Zimmerman had anything to do with the killing that night.

I am curious about which city you were in that had an area called The War Zone. I saw you lived in DC, MD, and VA. I lived in Silver Spring for 35 years. I never went into the Anacostia area of DC, lots of Prince George County, or into parts of the Virginia 'burbs but never heard any of those called The War Zone.

[Monkei]

Originally Posted by buggyone

I missed some of the testimony, I guess. What serious crime did Twin Lakes Retreat have ongoing besides a few burglaries?

I doubt if the prescription drugs that Zimmerman had anything to do with the killing that night.

I am curious about which city you were in that had an area called The War Zone. I saw you lived in DC, MD, and VA. I lived in Silver Spring for 35 years. I never went into the Anacostia area of DC, lots of Prince George County, or into parts of the Virginia 'burbs but never heard any of those called The War Zone.

I used to work a government job Mondays thru Fridays in the DC area and one of our offices was in Silver Spring right at the train station. Every week I flew to DC from Atlanta to work in Manassas, DC and Silver Spring.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by buggyone

I missed some of the testimony, I guess. What serious crime did Twin Lakes Retreat have ongoing besides a few burglaries?

I doubt if the prescription drugs that Zimmerman had anything to do with the killing that night.

I am curious about which city you were in that had an area called The War Zone. I saw you lived in DC, MD, and VA. I lived in Silver Spring for 35 years. I never went into the Anacostia area of DC, lots of Prince George County, or into parts of the Virginia 'burbs but never heard any of those called The War Zone.

Twin Lakes had MUCH more than a few burglaries going on over the past year prior to the shooting. Zimmerman had called the police before and waited for them while suspected individuals got away. Wikipedia has the story. The crime statistics are available and search engines find them.

The War Zone I mentioned is in the SE part of Albuquerque, NM and I am physically there right now as I write, no not in the War Zone, but in that city. http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/on_assi...d-the-war-zone Oh, the city has recently renamed it The International District and put up some signs but the locals still know it as the War Zone. The Villages look mighty safe to me from here!

I know Anacostia and have been out SE Pennsylvania to it several times. I have lived on Capitol Hill, in Bladensburg and Lanham in PG County, Chevy Chase, MD, Alexandria and Great Falls, VA, downtown Baltimore and Towson. A plain clothes DC cop was shot to death on the doorstep of a friend's Capitol Hill house one night after I drove him home. After that incident he and his wife moved to the suburbs.

[CMANN]

Originally Posted by dillywho

Did you notice in the Hannity replay, he said he had never heard of SYG? He said that he hadn't and then Hannity asked him about self defense. Nope. Both lies. I would have to look at it again, but I think this is where he says that it was just "God's will".

he said that he had never heard of stand your ground. Stand your ground is a slang term. It may have been taught in school but certainly not under the name stand your ground. The instructor also stated that he did not teach any Florida law.

Reasonable doubt?