Originally Posted by Guest

Of course it can be done. Ike did it in the '50's! I find that people who say can't are usually too lazy to try!

Exactly!

Originally Posted by Guest

Round up the illegals is not impossible. Only liberal socialists and liberal Republicans think it's too hard. IF they think it is impossible then they are not my candidate. I can understand liberals saying it's impossible, because everything is impossible for them. That's why they are so needy; they're lazy. We have had presidents in the past that have rounded them up and deported them. There are several ways of accomplishing this feat.

One way is to start charging a jailing anyone that knowingly hires illegals. No jobs, the illegals either starve of return home. Free one way bus vouchers could be offered to any illegals that turn themselves in for voluntary deportation. Laws would be enforced that prohibited any educational institution from allowing enrollment of illegals. No state would be allowed to issue drivers licenses. All of these could be instituted and force a stop to illegal migration.

And the wall would assist future invasion of the illegals.

Liberals would insist that this would be easy, if it was their idea. But, it is hard to build a voter base once the ignorant become educated and see that liberals insist on enslaving the lower class. Liberals figure it will take a while for illegals to become educated to our ways, so they would have their voter base for a while longer.

There is one thing that the far right knows for sure everything that they say is undisputable. I'm smart despite all the evidence to the contrary, and you are stupid. That goes without saying, but you are so stupid that I have to say it over and over until it sinks in.

You might want to check the number of illegals Obama has deported.

The wall! "Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man." George Patton. This one is going to be so pretty that Mexicans will stand there in awe, and turn around and go home knowing that they in the presence of greatness. This will be North America's version of the Wailing Wall.

Jail people that hire illegals? Are jails aren't full enough of non violent offenders, so we have to add thousands more?

Deport them all. A simple solution for simple minded people of which there is an abundant supply in the Republican party. There was a bipartisan plan to address the illegal immigration problem, but the Republicans saw no short term political gain for them, so it never hit the floor for a vote.

Originally Posted by Guest

There is one thing that the far right knows for sure everything that they say is undisputable. I'm smart despite all the evidence to the contrary, and you are stupid. That goes without saying, but you are so stupid that I have to say it over and over until it sinks in.

You might want to check the number of illegals Obama has deported.

The wall! "Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man." George Patton. This one is going to be so pretty that Mexicans will stand there in awe, and turn around and go home knowing that they in the presence of greatness. This will be North America's version of the Wailing Wall.

Jail people that hire illegals? Are jails aren't full enough of non violent offenders, so we have to add thousands more?

Deport them all. A simple solution for simple minded people of which there is an abundant supply in the Republican party. There was a bipartisan plan to address the illegal immigration problem, but the Republicans saw no short term political gain for them, so it never hit the floor for a vote.

The X-X-X kool aide is really kickin' now!
The interpretation presented for facilitating the rant is very creative.

Originally Posted by Guest

There is one thing that the far right knows for sure everything that they say is undisputable. I'm smart despite all the evidence to the contrary, and you are stupid. That goes without saying, but you are so stupid that I have to say it over and over until it sinks in.

You might want to check the number of illegals Obama has deported.

The wall! "Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man." George Patton. This one is going to be so pretty that Mexicans will stand there in awe, and turn around and go home knowing that they in the presence of greatness. This will be North America's version of the Wailing Wall.

Jail people that hire illegals? Are jails aren't full enough of non violent offenders, so we have to add thousands more?

Deport them all. A simple solution for simple minded people of which there is an abundant supply in the Republican party. There was a bipartisan plan to address the illegal immigration problem, but the Republicans saw no short term political gain for them, so it never hit the floor for a vote.

I am not sure why this post is so hateful, nor do I understand the mention of a number deported by Obama.

This is not a nice post, and is terribly political.

The reason for the opposition to the senate immigration bill is well documented so many times on here I would hope that this person might do some reading because it has been discussed and explained over and over.

This is a very hateful post aimed at someone, but I can never get past why in 2009 and 2010 when the Democrats controlled the WH, the Senate, and the House and not even an attempt at doing anything (even though clearly promised) and now someone is calling the Republican party "simple minded" and "stupid"

Why such a hateful tone ?

I would love to discuss this but not with someone so consumed with hate.

Originally Posted by Guest

I would like to hear Rubio, Cruz, etc. tell us what they think is fair about simply fining and requiring that the illegals learn English that are here and have been for years while there are so many working their butts off to try and enter LEGALLY. That has been Trump's stand on immigration and there are many legally here that agree with him and support his policy. Not only does the ILLEGAL hiring of the illegals impact American jobs, but legal immigrant jobs as well. People entering legally must learn English as one of their requirements.

I don't think anyone, including Trump, is advocating shipping them off to some island(s) in the middle of nowhere. Just send them back home instead of letting them stay here, taking care of them, all the while they send money back home. How can that possibly help or contribute to this country's economy?

It is my understanding is that amnesty is when someone ASKS our federal government for asylum and entry into this country. Am I missing something?

Did Rubio and Cruz parents come here legally? Did they go through the process or ask permission to be granted entry?

I don't know of anyone who is against LEGAL immigration......just the illegal sneaks that come in and then this country takes from our own seniors, etc., and well as from those who have come in legally, to take care of them. Interpreters should be used for clarification ONLY....not primary communication.

Immigration is being used...simple, period.

NOBODY on either side opposes legal immigration.

NOBODY on either side is against some sort of immigration law.

EVERYONE is afraid to do anything. Had the democrats made an attempt at securing the border and then engaging the Republicans we might have had a bill. Until that happens...securing the border, then being honest with each other, there will never be any comprehensive law passed.

Come on folks...we have cities that do not have to obey the law....we admittely have illegals gaming all our systems and flowing freely in and out of the country while we dance and talk.

I think it's time to take down the bird feeder

It's simple, we can't afford them, just like Europe can't afford theirs.

Dear Guests: IMHO it is physically possible to round up the majority of illegal immigrants. If you recall they created camps for those who emigrated here legally and whose homelands were at war with us in the 1940's. It would be a bit more difficult because many crossed over the border and where handed driver licenses. it would also be more difficult with 300 sanctuary cities.

The issue really rests as to 1) do the American people have the will to exercise mass deportation 2) the after effects of conducting such an exercise.

We are in this mess thanks to those politicians and business people who for political/monetary gain ignored the laws of this nation.

I worked the I-9 employment program in the 1980's and in order for a person to get hired they needed several types of ID. Clearly many industries ignored the I-9 program so they could hire low wage laborers.

As a general statement I believe most workers coming from the Americas are hard working decent people but coming through a back door hurts this nation.

Whether some like it or not assimilation and proper vetting are essential for a nation to survive. People have to understand and obey the laws because we are a nation which rules by laws and not to be ruled by men . A nation without borders is no longer a nation and wealthy men can easily make claim over their staked out fiefdoms

Rule of law is what separates and makes this the greatest nation on earth and every time I hear a call for internationalism I want to vomit. Listen to whom makes those calls Soros Obama, United Nations.

I certainly do not abide isolationism but I'll be darned if I want to give up nationalism and my identification as a citizen of these United States.

Personal Best Regards:

Mass deportations of illegal immigrants will not happen in the USA no matter who gets to be President.

Donald Trump says he will have a "special deportation force" to seek out, capture, imprison and deport all 11 million illegals. First, doesn't that sound quite a bit like the SS Storm Troopers? Secondly, bull hockey on ever getting that done. Just more hot air from Trump.

Originally Posted by Guest

I am not sure why this post is so hateful, nor do I understand the mention of a number deported by Obama.

This is not a nice post, and is terribly political.

The reason for the opposition to the senate immigration bill is well documented so many times on here I would hope that this person might do some reading because it has been discussed and explained over and over.

This is a very hateful post aimed at someone, but I can never get past why in 2009 and 2010 when the Democrats controlled the WH, the Senate, and the House and not even an attempt at doing anything (even though clearly promised) and now someone is calling the Republican party "simple minded" and "stupid"

Why such a hateful tone ?

I would love to discuss this but not with someone so consumed with hate.

It is not a hateful tone. It is just giving Republicans here a dose of their own medicine. If you are going to dish it out on a constant basis, you have to expect occasionally to get it in return. In the real world, opposition isn't define as hate. In the Republican world, apparently it is.

The reason the Senate immigration bill was never voted on has not been discussed here in detail. If the House Republicans were so sure that it was a bad bill, why wasn't it never voted on? Why, because of the Hastert rule! For the party that always points to the Constitution for everything, where in the Constitution is the Hastert rule?

Concerning 2009 and 2010, McConnell filibustered just about everything. Obama did come in with promises. Hope and Change! It certainly did change, and it wasn't for the better. The Republicans saw to that, and now they want to walk away from everything they did to get control of both Houses of Congress. It doesn't work that way.

Too many are taking what was said literally perhaps because it fits arguments they prefer to be in.

What needs to be recognized, forgetting the subject matter, is vote positioning/garnering/buying/persuading/etc.

How about all the phony promises made by Obama that never transpired.....which he never intended to fulfill? And 7 years later after 6 years of a lot of talk and still no fulfillment....he is still just talking.

So why cherry pick the opposition for promise legitimacy/do-ability/reality?
Well we know first off just because it is the opposition.

The first signal sent by Trump to ship 'em all out was obviously well recieved as his polling continued to rise and has remained with his view of immigration well known. Quite a bit of voter preference feedback therein!!!!!

He or anybody else who gets elected excluding Clinton has it made. All the have to do is a few simple things like close the border. Enforce the immigration laws of the land. and they will be head and shoulders ahead of Obama's policy of doing nothing; not enforcing the laws; and allowing as many to come in anyway they want with no authentican.

Some are missing the point when dwelling on the reality of round 'em up and ship 'em out.

We the people want illegal immigration ended.
We the people want the immigration laws enforced.
We the people are willing to contribute to a finish the wall campaign.
We the people want to get America back to being America!

Do you believe that the landscapers, mowers, trimmers, and maintainence workers here in The Villages are all legal? Who would do that work if they left?

Who would do the work the 11 million do? Prices would climb as labor got more expensive. Economies in some towns would dry up completely.

Originally Posted by Guest

Do you believe that the landscapers, mowers, trimmers, and maintainence workers here in The Villages are all legal? Who would do that work if they left?

Who would do the work the 11 million do? Prices would climb as labor got more expensive. Economies in some towns would dry up completely.

Many of the currently unemployed would do these jobs if the government would end the entitlements that allow them to sit at home and collect taxpayer money for doing nothing.

Originally Posted by Guest

Many of the currently unemployed would do these jobs if the government would end the entitlements that allow them to sit at home and collect taxpayer money for doing nothing.

Dumb answer to say the very least. You obviously have done no research on what it takes to qualify for these "entitlements". Come back after you have dug deeper into some learning and stop relying on catch phrases from your know-nothing political cronies.

Originally Posted by Guest

Do you believe that the landscapers, mowers, trimmers, and maintainence workers here in The Villages are all legal? Who would do that work if they left?

Who would do the work the 11 million do? Prices would climb as labor got more expensive. Economies in some towns would dry up completely.

You certainly are not presenting that the 11 million is only made up of day laborers and workers who do jobs we don't do anymore.

Get the folks who are collecting unemployment to do the work.
Put the freeloaders who get government subsistence with no more effort tha going to the mail box.

The we can't live without them argument is weak, at best.

How does this type work get done in those areas of the country where the illegals are bountiful?
The same way it would get done anywhere else!