Originally Posted by Guest

Having a conversation with yourself again?

You must be very lonely.

Well Mr. All Knowing, and All Seeing, believe it or not there are two of us not walking lock step with the Republican majority on this board.

To the person, that responded to my post that was addressed the loyal American that is at war with everyone that doesn't agree with him, now you know what you are dealing with here.

A football game has rules. Everybody is suppose to be dealing on an equal playing field. The Republicans here want to take their ball, and go home, if everything doesn't go their way. You didn't play by their rules, so you got the penalty that they always dish out. You are flagged for having a mental problem. That problem is Obama is responsible for all the sins in the world. If you don't accept this, you are a moron, and not worth talking to.

Originally Posted by Guest

Obama did not "inherit" anything. He knew exactly what the Dems did to this country with their two years of congressional control during the end of the Bush administration. Don't come on here trying to convince anyone that Obama is to be pitied. There are better posters on here than myself that can educate you AGAIN as to the cause of any problems that Obama took on (and failed) when he won the election. Obama failed, plain and simple. No other president that had a recession or depression ever took as long to fix the economy. You socialists really need to grow some and admit that Obama is incompetent and was never ready for the job. You picked the wrong "one" to lead the country. Instead of bringing the country together when it needed it, Obama has been divisive and lowered it's world image as the greatest country. Obama was such a disappointment.

Well, the education that they are throwing out there is total nonsense. Obama is to be pitied. Where has anyone said that? If all you want to do is play the blame game, "W" doesn't walk away from the great recession.

The stance that almost very Republican has taken is Obama is responsible for everything that has gone wrong in the last 15 years. Even when Hannity throws out numbers from the Treasury to kill the argument that Obama hasn't doubled the National Debt, they totally ignore him. Sounds like people that watch Fox News don't want to be "fair and balanced".

The Democrat Congress had more power than the "W" in his last two years of his presidency. Maybe you should try to back that up with facts. He was turned back on some of his requests to Congress, but not everything like Obama has been dealing with, since Republicans have controlled Congress.

Concerning the length of the Great Recession, read this especially the last paragraph. Although the recession ended, people felt the effects long after it was considered over.
When did it end? | The Economist

Originally Posted by Guest

This is not a football game where you root for one team and I root for another team. We're on the same team here. Why not simply be honest? You know Obama inherited a disaster. A disaster that happened under Bush (a republican). You also know it was Bush who signed off on the stimulus bill that created most of the debt you are talking about. What benefit is there for you to lie?

Bush Agrees To Obama Bailout Request - CBS News

"ACTING AT BARACK OBAMA'S BEHEST, President George W. Bush on Monday asked congress for the final 350 billion in the financial bailout...."

Bernie Sander's free stuff is calculated to come with a price tag of some $19 billion.

However when it comes to spending I am an equal opportunity complainer. Neither the Democrats, albeit they are bigger offenders, or Republicans can make claim that they are more responsible. Republican like Democrats love to spend other people's money and use it as leverage to buy votes and stuff their personal pockets.

Its why I ignore any tax plan any politicians advances because none of them know how to wisely utilize the taxpayer dollars they bleed from us.

Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by Guest

Bernie Sander's free stuff is calculated to come with a price tag of some $19 billion.

However when it comes to spending I am an equal opportunity complainer. Neither the Democrats, albeit they are bigger offenders, or Republicans can make claim that they are more responsible. Republican like Democrats love to spend other people's money and use it as leverage to buy votes and stuff their personal pockets.

Its why I ignore any tax plan any politicians advances because none of them know how to wisely utilize the taxpayer dollars they bleed from us.

Personal Best Regards:

Good post, and only "political hacks" will name call and attempt to play the playground game of "no I didn't,you did"

What is really depressing about those political hacks is they don't even know what they are talking about..it is all the same rhetoric you read on the biased websites.

Originally Posted by Guest

Well Mr. All Knowing, and All Seeing, believe it or not there are two of us not walking lock step with the Republican majority on this board.

To the person, that responded to my post that was addressed the loyal American that is at war with everyone that doesn't agree with him, now you know what you are dealing with here.

A football game has rules. Everybody is suppose to be dealing on an equal playing field. The Republicans here want to take their ball, and go home, if everything doesn't go their way. You didn't play by their rules, so you got the penalty that they always dish out. You are flagged for having a mental problem. That problem is Obama is responsible for all the sins in the world. If you don't accept this, you are a moron, and not worth talking to.

You need some professional help, IF you really believe what you posted. No one ever said Obama is to blame for everything. Of course, liberals like to go to the extreme when confronted with a statement where they have no other answer.
It is hilarious that you talk about Republicans taking the ball and going home if they don't get their way. Obviously, you have not been keeping up on current events in the past six years. The First two years, when Obamacare was passed, the Republicans weren't even invited to the game (your speak). Reid kept ANY bill passed by the House on his desk and did not allow it on the floor for a vote. I am not blaming all Deomcrats, just the radicals that followed Obama, Reid and Pelosi. The rest of the Democrats did not get re-elected because of the radicals.
So, blame Bush all you want, but Obama was not drafted. He ran for election and he knew exactly what he was getting into. So, he owns it. He was called in off the bench, ran some plays and lost the game. HE failed miserably and your answer is blaming it on a quarterback that isn't even in the game this season.
So, man up and quit crying about equality. No one is equal and you really need to wake up and realize this. No one is equal. They have equal opportunity, but they are not all equally talented.

the constitution is pretty clear on who is responsible for funding the government including taxation and raising debt, it is congress. congress makes laws and appropriates funds to implement them. the executive branch is responsible for carrying out the will of the people (congress) by implementing laws including spending laws sent to the president by congress. the truth is the needs of the country are greater than the revenue raised to meet them. if we the people want the benefits of government without increasing the debt we need to raise more revenue, the job of congress. too many politicians are elected on pledges of cutting spending and cutting taxes, how many have done so? its political theater for an uninformed electorate, a way to get elected and if elected, stay in the news. it is exploiting fear and division to get attention and diminish the legitimate role of government in a democratic society, it is pandering without conviction, it is politics. lets a grow up and be thankful for what government does and has done to help us reach and sustain the good lives we enjoy in the villages.

Originally Posted by Guest

You need some professional help, IF you really believe what you posted. No one ever said Obama is to blame for everything. Of course, liberals like to go to the extreme when confronted with a statement where they have no other answer.
It is hilarious that you talk about Republicans taking the ball and going home if they don't get their way. Obviously, you have not been keeping up on current events in the past six years. The First two years, when Obamacare was passed, the Republicans weren't even invited to the game (your speak). Reid kept ANY bill passed by the House on his desk and did not allow it on the floor for a vote. I am not blaming all Deomcrats, just the radicals that followed Obama, Reid and Pelosi. The rest of the Democrats did not get re-elected because of the radicals.
So, blame Bush all you want, but Obama was not drafted. He ran for election and he knew exactly what he was getting into. So, he owns it. He was called in off the bench, ran some plays and lost the game. HE failed miserably and your answer is blaming it on a quarterback that isn't even in the game this season.
So, man up and quit crying about equality. No one is equal and you really need to wake up and realize this. No one is equal. They have equal opportunity, but they are not all equally talented.

You are holding true to form. Always start your post demeaning someone. You also follow up the insults by rewriting history. Why the do you think that it took two years to pass Obamacare? He was talking to Republicans to get their input or support for the bill. Olympia Snow, Republican from Maine, was one of the few Republicans, there may have been one other, whose mind wasn't caste in stone, either one way of the other.

Reid held up all bills, and never let them hit the Senate for a vote. When you pass a bill without any support from the other party, and you don't control both Houses, what the hell do you think is going to happen? How stupid do you have to be to send 54 bills to repeal Obamacare to the Senate?

By your definition of radical, Boehner is a radical. He never put bills that his far right party didn't support like the bipartisan on the floor for a vote. For heavens sake, the Republican have the Hastert rule in the House, and you are complaining about Democrats.

Take a look at the topic of this thread, there is no way in hell that you can say that Obama has doubled the national debt, when you use real numbers of debt supplied by the Treasury Dept.

Obama entered the game, when the score was 49 to nothing. So, he is to blame for the lost! What was the final score 152-0? Obama is the replacement quarterback. Looks like the replacement defense, the Republicans, didn't change the outcome of the game only made the score worse. Instead of tackling the opposition, they step aside, and said, "not my job, man!"

What have you been looking at on this board? It is the blame game. You play this game more than almost everyone here. Maybe just maybe, threads like this should die a quick death. That will never happen, because the majority of people here thrive on the negative. It is always someone else fault, and never my own.

Take a look at the 501(4)c charitable organizations on both sides, all they are doing is spouting the negative, that is what Karl Rove in his like, thrive on. The blame game is the only one that exists now like it or not. So, go right ahead and make Obama pure evil. You have to know that the only people that are listening to you are people like you. Like the nonsense, that everyone that doesn't agree with you is a liberal.

Originally Posted by Guest

You are holding true to form. Always start your post demeaning someone. You also follow up the insults by rewriting history. Why the do you think that it took two years to pass Obamacare? He was talking to Republicans to get their input or support for the bill. Olympia Snow, Republican from Maine, was one of the few Republicans, there may have been one other, whose mind wasn't caste in stone, either one way of the other.

Reid held up all bills, and never let them hit the Senate for a vote. When you pass a bill without any support from the other party, and you don't control both Houses, what the hell do you think is going to happen? How stupid do you have to be to send 54 bills to repeal Obamacare to the Senate?

By your definition of radical, Boehner is a radical. He never put bills that his far right party didn't support like the bipartisan on the floor for a vote. For heavens sake, the Republican have the Hastert rule in the House, and you are complaining about Democrats.

Take a look at the topic of this thread, there is no way in hell that you can say that Obama has doubled the national debt, when you use real numbers of debt supplied by the Treasury Dept.

Obama entered the game, when the score was 49 to nothing. So, he is to blame for the lost! What was the final score 152-0? Obama is the replacement quarterback. Looks like the replacement defense, the Republicans, didn't change the outcome of the game only made the score worse. Instead of tackling the opposition, they step aside, and said, "not my job, man!"

What have you been looking at on this board? It is the blame game. You play this game more than almost everyone here. Maybe just maybe, threads like this should die a quick death. That will never happen, because the majority of people here thrive on the negative. It is always someone else fault, and never my own.

Take a look at the 501(4)c charitable organizations on both sides, all they are doing is spouting the negative, that is what Karl Rove in his like, thrive on. The blame game is the only one that exists now like it or not. So, go right ahead and make Obama pure evil. You have to know that the only people that are listening to you are people like you. Like the nonsense, that everyone that doesn't agree with you is a liberal.

This is not a demeaning post, as you seem to feel most are.

It is actually a compliment to you when I say the Democratic party must be so very proud of you. Not many as consistent in their defense of this administration in every issue and more condemning of the Republican party.

You are consistent and please, that is not demeaning.

Originally Posted by Guest

You are holding true to form. Always start your post demeaning someone. You also follow up the insults by rewriting history. Why the do you think that it took two years to pass Obamacare? He was talking to Republicans to get their input or support for the bill. Olympia Snow, Republican from Maine, was one of the few Republicans, there may have been one other, whose mind wasn't caste in stone, either one way of the other.

Reid held up all bills, and never let them hit the Senate for a vote. When you pass a bill without any support from the other party, and you don't control both Houses, what the hell do you think is going to happen? How stupid do you have to be to send 54 bills to repeal Obamacare to the Senate?

By your definition of radical, Boehner is a radical. He never put bills that his far right party didn't support like the bipartisan on the floor for a vote. For heavens sake, the Republican have the Hastert rule in the House, and you are complaining about Democrats.

Take a look at the topic of this thread, there is no way in hell that you can say that Obama has doubled the national debt, when you use real numbers of debt supplied by the Treasury Dept.

Obama entered the game, when the score was 49 to nothing. So, he is to blame for the lost! What was the final score 152-0? Obama is the replacement quarterback. Looks like the replacement defense, the Republicans, didn't change the outcome of the game only made the score worse. Instead of tackling the opposition, they step aside, and said, "not my job, man!"

What have you been looking at on this board? It is the blame game. You play this game more than almost everyone here. Maybe just maybe, threads like this should die a quick death. That will never happen, because the majority of people here thrive on the negative. It is always someone else fault, and never my own.

Take a look at the 501(4)c charitable organizations on both sides, all they are doing is spouting the negative, that is what Karl Rove in his like, thrive on. The blame game is the only one that exists now like it or not. So, go right ahead and make Obama pure evil. You have to know that the only people that are listening to you are people like you. Like the nonsense, that everyone that doesn't agree with you is a liberal.

Typical liberal spew, with your distorted view of fact. You are beyond redemption and have been blinded by visiting way too many liberal blogs run by teenagers and college radicals. I'm sorry, I can debate each point you use to cast blame elsewhere, but I know better than to argue with the liberal troll when he has his head in a drug induced fog.

Defending Obama, Reid and Pelosi just proves your lack of intuitive basic common sense. The reason that no one has anything positive to say about any of them, is that they spout nothing but divisive bias party talking points and derision of the other party. Other than Clinton (in his first year) NO other president has ever cut down the opposite party, and this one does so continuously. So, I realize that you pacifist liberals don't believe in self defense, but we defend ourselves when attacked. So, go cry on a liberal blog about how you don't get any respect, Rodney. No one cares for whiners here.

Come back and speak to use when you finally realize that Bush hasn't been in the White House for over six years and this clown has worn out his blame game. If he can't hack the job, then maybe he should have gone to work for SNL instead of running for a second term. At the very least, he should have listened to his advisers or fired them and hired some with some experience and successful records. If Reagan could pull off being the best president in history with his handicap, the surely Obama could learn from him and surround himself with some smart people. Some folks to cover his ignorance and lack of experience.

Originally Posted by Guest

This is not a demeaning post, as you seem to feel most are.

It is actually a compliment to you when I say the Democratic party must be so very proud of you. Not many as consistent in their defense of this administration in every issue and more condemning of the Republican party.

You are consistent and please, that is not demeaning.

Being consistently ignorant is similar to repeating the same failure over and over again expecting a different outcome. And we know what that symbolizes.

Originally Posted by Guest

This is not a demeaning post, as you seem to feel most are.

It is actually a compliment to you when I say the Democratic party must be so very proud of you. Not many as consistent in their defense of this administration in every issue and more condemning of the Republican party.

You are consistent and please, that is not demeaning.

In addition, I will also compliment his ability to just move on.

He oft times uses revisionist history by leaving things out or adding things, and when he is reminded of that, he just moves on as if it never happens.

He thinks all posts to him are demeaning yet he never apologizes for his mis use of facts. I suppose he thinks people just forget it.

The national debt at the time of Obama's inauguration was around $11 triilion. When Obama leaves office it will be around $19 trillion. This is not double - check your math! G. W. Bush came closer to doubling the debt during his 2 terms (from 5.5 trillion to 11 trillion). And Bill Clinton had NO debt during 4 years of his term; you don't have to go back to the 50's to see that. Check your facts before posting please!

Originally Posted by Guest

The national debt at the time of Obama's inauguration was around $11 triilion. When Obama leaves office it will be around $19 trillion. This is not double - check your math! G. W. Bush came closer to doubling the debt during his 2 terms (from 5.5 trillion to 11 trillion). And Bill Clinton had NO debt during 4 years of his term; you don't have to go back to the 50's to see that. Check your facts before posting please!

There you go again, making up your own version of facts. Not true, the public debt owed on Jan 20, 2009 was $6,307,310,739,681.66. Today's public debt is: $13,378,216,906,933.97. That is more than double and we still have another year to go.

These are figures taken from TreasuryDirect.gov today.

The national debt was not $11 trillion.

Originally Posted by Guest

There you go again, making up your own version of facts. Not true, the public debt owed on Jan 20, 2009 was $6,307,310,739,681.66. Today's public debt is: $13,378,216,906,933.97. That is more than double and we still have another year to go.

These are figures taken from TreasuryDirect.gov today.

The national debt was not $11 trillion.

Wouldn't it be interesting to know what website he got that 11 Trillion from, but we will never know.