Originally Posted by Guest

Your point is WHAT ?

Her point is obviously, that she needs 600+ supposed internet friends...because she's extremely insecure.

Then again, she does have good reason to be so.

Originally Posted by Guest

I think she might be saying that some people on this forum may want to take a good look in the mirror. The problem may not be Rubicon.

Posts #60 and #61 seem to have proved my point rather well!

Originally Posted by Guest

I think she might be saying that some people on this forum may want to take a good look in the mirror. The problem may not be Rubicon.

Well, I have said this before and will repeat what I said, although the only honest person on here is Rubicon.

But since this appears to be aimed at me.....

I think I recall Rubicon from the original politics board, but not really sure.

When I first came back, I respected his vocabulary, but then noticed he was citing offbeat websites. Many of which are of Russian origin. One he linked to a few times was Zerohedge. Now he denies it, and with the inability to properly search political posts, I gotta just say..he did, he knows it and drop it.

I also noticed, while he does have a great vocabulary, the words sounded familiar to me. So I posted TWICE flagrant violations of PLAGARISM on his part. In both cases, word for word and posted as his. Could be he forgot to link it, or say it, but when I called him on it, he never said a word. A few days ago, he did it again, although this time he changed just a few words from a Boston Globe story on Wellsley.

THUS FAR I FEEL GOOD LOOKING IN THE MIRROR BECAUSE I JUST COULD NOT DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

When not plagiarizing his main theme is to attack "progressives". I mean probably 85/90% of his posts blame everything on that group. I have no idea how many millions of Americans are "progressive" but it is a large number. SO, from one side of his mouth, he calls ANYONE, AND I MEAN ANYONE who opposes Trump, personally or policywise to suffer from some kind of syndrome, and from the other he attacks anyone in this country who is progressive. In these attacks, he never ever shrouds them in actual topics. He attacks only in general.

LET ME TAKE ANOTHER LOOK IN THAT MIRROR. YEP, STILL FEELING GOOD. I DO ATTACK TRUMP, BUT NOT A PARTY OR ANY PARTICULAR GROUP IF AMERICANS. I MENTION TRUMP FOLLOWERS AND SYMPATHIZE WITH THEM BUT DO NOT ATTACK WIDE SWATHS OF AMERICANS.

ON issues, he lectures other posters about how they will not discuss issues, YET, he avoids issue driven threads like the plague. I have begun issues ON OURPOSE that were not close to anti Trump, and did it on purpose to see if he might comment. Nope, not once.

LET ME LOOK IN THAT MIRROR AGAIN. I STILL FEEL GOOD BECAUSE I WANT BADLY TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON HERE TO BE ANOUT ISSUES, BUT NOT RUBICON.

Almost daily, although I cannot say that fore sure, Rubicon will sermonize someone or all of us on attacking. It is usually the front part of his attack on some group of people. I have seen all immigrant, some immigrants, non whites, Democrats and others be berated. Never with a suffix of "some" it is always all.

I am getting tired here..typing on an iPad while supposed to be watching kiddos is not easy, but if you need more, there is more.

Bottom line, you and of course Gracie, will defend his hypocrisy and hate always, but I can look in the mirror and feel good.

I am anti Trump. Never hid that. I am conservative and DO mention when I agree with any of his policies, UNLIKE RUBICON who blames all the ills of the world on anyone who opposes Trump. I do not trust Trump, with good reason, and I believe the country will find out in due time (not a reference to the Russia probe at all).

So, you, Gracie, and Rubicon and whomever is enlisted (not saying you fit that category, but Gracie is prone to solicit help to go after other posters) to help in attempting to make me feel guilt, it will not work.

I approach this forum as a sharing and learning xperience, but will admit, being lectured almost daily by either Rubicon or Gracie has gotten MUCH TOO MUCH of my attention, but I will not sit and read lies, or total misinformation by people in a blind attempt to prop up the single most dispicable man to ever sit in our White HOuse. I predict always his failure completely because I have followed his lie ridden, muck raking career all his life, and he ALWAYS..ALWAYS reverts back to his native self. I just pray that he does not do lasting damage to this country.

He is already destroying all ethics in the White House and is doing it quietly...but you have to read that to know it. That he doesn't tweet...only hate does he tweet.

Originally Posted by Guest

Well, I have said this before and will repeat what I said, although the only honest person on here is Rubicon.

But since this appears to be aimed at me.....

I think I recall Rubicon from the original politics board, but not really sure.

When I first came back, I respected his vocabulary, but then noticed he was citing offbeat websites. Many of which are of Russian origin. One he linked to a few times was Zerohedge. Now he denies it, and with the inability to properly search political posts, I gotta just say..he did, he knows it and drop it.

I also noticed, while he does have a great vocabulary, the words sounded familiar to me. So I posted TWICE flagrant violations of PLAGARISM on his part. In both cases, word for word and posted as his. Could be he forgot to link it, or say it, but when I called him on it, he never said a word. A few days ago, he did it again, although this time he changed just a few words from a Boston Globe story on Wellsley.

THUS FAR I FEEL GOOD LOOKING IN THE MIRROR BECAUSE I JUST COULD NOT DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

When not plagiarizing his main theme is to attack "progressives". I mean probably 85/90% of his posts blame everything on that group. I have no idea how many millions of Americans are "progressive" but it is a large number. SO, from one side of his mouth, he calls ANYONE, AND I MEAN ANYONE who opposes Trump, personally or policywise to suffer from some kind of syndrome, and from the other he attacks anyone in this country who is progressive. In these attacks, he never ever shrouds them in actual topics. He attacks only in general.

LET ME TAKE ANOTHER LOOK IN THAT MIRROR. YEP, STILL FEELING GOOD. I DO ATTACK TRUMP, BUT NOT A PARTY OR ANY PARTICULAR GROUP IF AMERICANS. I MENTION TRUMP FOLLOWERS AND SYMPATHIZE WITH THEM BUT DO NOT ATTACK WIDE SWATHS OF AMERICANS.

ON issues, he lectures other posters about how they will not discuss issues, YET, he avoids issue driven threads like the plague. I have begun issues ON OURPOSE that were not close to anti Trump, and did it on purpose to see if he might comment. Nope, not once.

LET ME LOOK IN THAT MIRROR AGAIN. I STILL FEEL GOOD BECAUSE I WANT BADLY TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON HERE TO BE ANOUT ISSUES, BUT NOT RUBICON.

Almost daily, although I cannot say that fore sure, Rubicon will sermonize someone or all of us on attacking. It is usually the front part of his attack on some group of people. I have seen all immigrant, some immigrants, non whites, Democrats and others be berated. Never with a suffix of "some" it is always all.

I am getting tired here..typing on an iPad while supposed to be watching kiddos is not easy, but if you need more, there is more.

Bottom line, you and of course Gracie, will defend his hypocrisy and hate always, but I can look in the mirror and feel good.

I am anti Trump. Never hid that. I am conservative and DO mention when I agree with any of his policies, UNLIKE RUBICON who blames all the ills of the world on anyone who opposes Trump. I do not trust Trump, with good reason, and I believe the country will find out in due time (not a reference to the Russia probe at all).

So, you, Gracie, and Rubicon and whomever is enlisted (not saying you fit that category, but Gracie is prone to solicit help to go after other posters) to help in attempting to make me feel guilt, it will not work.

I approach this forum as a sharing and learning xperience, but will admit, being lectured almost daily by either Rubicon or Gracie has gotten MUCH TOO MUCH of my attention, but I will not sit and read lies, or total misinformation by people in a blind attempt to prop up the single most dispicable man to ever sit in our White HOuse. I predict always his failure completely because I have followed his lie ridden, muck raking career all his life, and he ALWAYS..ALWAYS reverts back to his native self. I just pray that he does not do lasting damage to this country.

He is already destroying all ethics in the White House and is doing it quietly...but you have to read that to know it. That he doesn't tweet...only hate does he tweet.

I'm not on here to defend anyone, but since you took the time to respond so completely, I will attempt to do the same. I get so discouraged coming on this forum day after day and seeing Rubicon hammered no matter what he has to say. I enjoy his posts even if they are just opinion at times. Differing opinions give everyone a chance to chew on thoughts that may or may not be like their own, but sometimes you learn something new about the subject or maybe even about the person. I may be wrong, but I did not think that this was a forum where one could only post if they had first verified every word that they wrote. I always thought it was an exchange of thoughts and ideas as relates to politics. I don't have to agree with you and you don't have to agree with me, but we all have the right to speak. And I think we should have that right without being attacked every time we post. It just appears to me, since this continually happens to one poster in particular (Rubicon), that it is more a personal vendetta than a disagreement of opinions.

I had a group of friends some time back, and one person in the group just rubbed me the wrong way. For years, I avoided her because it would bring up uncomfortable feelings, including anger, and I just didn't want to deal with her. Then one day I came to the realization that what I didn't like about her was actually a characteristic I didn't like about myself, but I just wasn't willing to see that in myself for a very long time. Today we talk and it's like we never lost all those years. I'm just saying, that when I feel that obsessed about what another person says whenever they speak, I know it's time for me to look in the mirror. But that's just me, no one else has to agree and that's okay too.

Enjoy your children/grandchildren and the rest of your Easter holiday.

Originally Posted by Guest

I'm not on here to defend anyone, but since you took the time to respond so completely, I will attempt to do the same. I get so discouraged coming on this forum day after day and seeing Rubicon hammered no matter what he has to say. I enjoy his posts even if they are just opinion at times. Differing opinions give everyone a chance to chew on thoughts that may or may not be like their own, but sometimes you learn something new about the subject or maybe even about the person. I may be wrong, but I did not think that this was a forum where one could only post if they had first verified every word that they wrote. I always thought it was an exchange of thoughts and ideas as relates to politics. I don't have to agree with you and you don't have to agree with me, but we all have the right to speak. And I think we should have that right without being attacked every time we post. It just appears to me, since this continually happens to one poster in particular (Rubicon), that it is more a personal vendetta than a disagreement of opinions.

I had a group of friends some time back, and one person in the group just rubbed me the wrong way. For years, I avoided her because it would bring up uncomfortable feelings, including anger, and I just didn't want to deal with her. Then one day I came to the realization that what I didn't like about her was actually a characteristic I didn't like about myself, but I just wasn't willing to see that in myself for a very long time. Today we talk and it's like we never lost all those years. I'm just saying, that when I feel that obsessed about what another person says whenever they speak, I know it's time for me to look in the mirror. But that's just me, no one else has to agree and that's okay too.

Enjoy your children/grandchildren and the rest of your Easter holiday.

Thanks for your post.

Will at least try to be short.

I first noticed Rubicon on here during the campaign, and what got my attention besides his vocabulary was his twisting of facts, no matter how or using what method, and always his total ignoring of posts that were well researched, linked and accurate.

I have no problem with disagreement, but I have a serious problem with lying, avoidance of facts, and attacking others for what you are doing, or simply attacking with no basis.

Look, I know as someone who disagreed with Obama for 8 years and who is a total conservative I have no "friends" if you will on here, but I have grown so weary of general condemnation, total lack of interest in facts, and interest in ONLY himself.

Enjoy reading his posts, and someday share what you learn...I really would love to hear that. He searches for any link to punish "progressives" no matter the fact. If you need thatbreinforcement, so be it.

But thanks for a response and now the king and queen can have the floor for their talk down lectures.

Obviously you don't check his sources or reliability, nor does his name calling, albeit with great grammar, bother you.

I don't imagine you ever looked to see if his posts might be the problem, rather than my objection ?

I do need to acknowledge your comment on looking in the mirror and seeing traits that you have yourself. I get what you are saying, and can tell you, I, nor I think anybody goes after Rubicon on every thing he says...either today or yesterday I agreed with his comments on Iran. BUT did you ever notice, the ONLY posts he replies to are to attack another. On issues, he NEVER EVER replies to posts. Then I need to look in the mirror. I did, and my old old body and mind, far from perfect is comfortable

Originally Posted by Abby10

I'm not on here to defend anyone, but since you took the time to respond so completely, I will attempt to do the same. I get so discouraged coming on this forum day after day and seeing Rubicon hammered no matter what he has to say. I enjoy his posts even if they are just opinion at times. Differing opinions give everyone a chance to chew on thoughts that may or may not be like their own, but sometimes you learn something new about the subject or maybe even about the person. I may be wrong, but I did not think that this was a forum where one could only post if they had first verified every word that they wrote. I always thought it was an exchange of thoughts and ideas as relates to politics. I don't have to agree with you and you don't have to agree with me, but we all have the right to speak. And I think we should have that right without being attacked every time we post. It just appears to me, since this continually happens to one poster in particular (Rubicon), that it is more a personal vendetta than a disagreement of opinions.

I had a group of friends some time back, and one person in the group just rubbed me the wrong way. For years, I avoided her because it would bring up uncomfortable feelings, including anger, and I just didn't want to deal with her. Then one day I came to the realization that what I didn't like about her was actually a characteristic I didn't like about myself, but I just wasn't willing to see that in myself for a very long time. Today we talk and it's like we never lost all those years. I'm just saying, that when I feel that obsessed about what another person says whenever they speak, I know it's time for me to look in the mirror. But that's just me, no one else has to agree and that's okay too.

Enjoy your children/grandchildren and the rest of your Easter holiday.

Although Rocky has covered most of the exact points of why your defense of RubiTHECon and Graceless are biased and misplaced, since you pointed out my posts (#60 & #61)...I will also respond.

What you fail to take into account, is Rubicon's constant preaching down from his soapbox to everyone else and then making false statements...without ever backing them up.

While he (and apparently you) believe he is being 'civil,' when you consistently denigrate an entire demographic...that is anything BUT civil.

That I choose to call him a 'con,' is not born from a desire to be mean...it is exactly the method he uses in his bloviating soapbox rants.

When you read the posts from the racists/bigots/misogynists here, myself and a few others will address them but...you will NEVER see a condemnation from Rubi because they share his far right views.

THAT is an issue that should compel someone...to take a hard look at themselves in the mirror.

By the way, Rocky and I are NOT of the same political viewpoint, but I respect him because he gives original (non-plagiarized) opinions and then backs them up with links that he believes proves his point.

And maybe I'm being too harsh on RubiTHECon as far as links, because to the best of my knowledge he has never supplied EVEN ONE...so maybe he just isn't smart enough to know how to do it.

May you also have a nice Easter and remainder of the day.


ColdNoMore

Originally Posted by Guest

Thanks for your post.

Will at least try to be short.

I first noticed Rubicon on here during the campaign, and what got my attention besides his vocabulary was his twisting of facts, no matter how or using what method, and always his total ignoring of posts that were well researched, linked and accurate.

I have no problem with disagreement, but I have a serious problem with lying, avoidance of facts, and attacking others for what you are doing, or simply attacking with no basis.

Look, I know as someone who disagreed with Obama for 8 years and who is a total conservative I have no "friends" if you will on here, but I have grown so weary of general condemnation, total lack of interest in facts, and interest in ONLY himself.

Enjoy reading his posts, and someday share what you learn...I really would love to hear that. He searches for any link to punish "progressives" no matter the fact. If you need thatbreinforcement, so be it.

But thanks for a response and now the king and queen can have the floor for their talk down lectures.

Obviously you don't check his sources or reliability, nor does his name calling, albeit with great grammar, bother you.

I don't imagine you ever looked to see if his posts might be the problem, rather than my objection ?

I do need to acknowledge your comment on looking in the mirror and seeing traits that you have yourself. I get what you are saying, and can tell you, I, nor I think anybody goes after Rubicon on every thing he says...either today or yesterday I agreed with his comments on Iran. BUT did you ever notice, the ONLY posts he replies to are to attack another. On issues, he NEVER EVER replies to posts. Then I need to look in the mirror. I did, and my old old body and mind, far from perfect is comfortable

I hear all that you are saying and appreciate that you even responded. You certainly were not the only one I had in mind when I made my original comment and as I said it goes both ways on this forum, the attacking, the name calling, etc. It gets old after awhile. I do appreciate that at least you don't take the path of some on here which can be downright ugly.

Anyway, you were wrong about one thing.......for what it's worth, you do have a friend on this forum I too consider myself a conservative, but even conservatives can have their differences at times.

Originally Posted by Guest

Dear Deepest Sincere Wishes:

What I can say in all honesty ,sincerity and factually about you is that you are consistently and remarkably ineffective in your analysis.

In one sentence Iran is by far a greater concern than Syria and North Korea combined. I am not gong to do your homework check it out yourself but I'll offer some clues.

1) the agreement between United States and Iran is inherently and dangerously flawed allowing them carte blanche, so that Iran doesn't even have to break the agreement and can achieve more in the open than Syria and North Korea can under the shadow of darkness.

2) Unlike Syria and North Korea and their allies Iran is the largest sponsor of terrorism in the world and openly stated it would destroy another nation, Israel

3) because of the situation described in #2 Netanyahu believes Iran is 50 times more dangerous than North Korea and he said many more times than Syria... Now stop and think. If Iran goes to war with Israel what would America's position be?

Deep sincere wishes you may not always be right but you are always" Deep Sincere Wishes" Please share this post with your tag team partner( ie speak among yourselves)

Personal Best Regards:

Oh look, ANOTHER CASE OF RubiTHECon plagiarizing an opinion piece...without giving credit to the source.

Iran Is a Bigger Threat Than Syria and North Korea Combined - WSJ

In the first paragraph, it is almost word-for-word...to what 'The Con' posted.

Now, which of you posters still think...that Rubi is so smart?


Deepest Sincere Wishes:

Originally Posted by Guest

Although Rocky has covered most of the exact points of why your defense of RubiTHECon and Graceless are biased and misplaced, since you pointed out my posts (#60 & #61)...I will also respond.

What you fail to take into account, is Rubicon's constant preaching down from his soapbox to everyone else and then making false statements...without ever backing them up.

While he (and apparently you) believe he is being 'civil,' when you consistently denigrate an entire demographic...that is anything BUT civil.

That I choose to call him a 'con,' is not born from a desire to be mean...it is exactly the method he uses in his bloviating soapbox rants.

When you read the posts from the racists/bigots/misogynists here, myself and a few others will address them but...you will NEVER see a condemnation from Rubi because they share his far right views.

THAT is an issue that should compel someone...to take a hard look at themselves in the mirror.

By the way, Rocky and I are NOT of the same political viewpoint, but I respect him because he gives original (non-plagiarized) opinions and then backs them up with links that he believes proves his point.

And maybe I'm being too harsh on RubiTHECon as far as links, because to the best of my knowledge he has never supplied EVEN ONE...so maybe he just isn't smart enough to know how to do it.

May you also have a nice Easter and remainder of the day.


ColdNoMore

Thanks for your reply. I don't know about biased and misplaced as I know neither of the 2 you speak of other than from this forum. It could actually be 2 other people on this forum, it really wouldn't matter. The question I have is why so much, as you put it, harshness toward either one or both? So you don't like what they say, or you don't agree with their opinion, or you believe they are liars, whatever. Why the need to attack each and every post? Why not just ignore it if it bothers you so much? I don't think anyone on here needs another person, be it you, me, or someone else, to tell them how to think about another person and/or their post. But you seem to think it necessary to call certain people out constantly and sometimes in a very ugly way. I know I may be hoping for the impossible, but it would be nice if when we disagree we could do it in a fashion that is not again, as you say, so harsh. I often wonder when I see the numbers of people who actually view this forum, if the reason so few actually post is because they fear being called out - for not linking, or being a Trump supporter, or not being well read in the eyes of another poster.

Anyway, again, I thank you for taking the time to reply and for the kind words at the end. I hope you had an enjoyable Easter as well.....which makes me think, what the heck are we doing on here??

Originally Posted by Guest

I also noticed, while he does have a great vocabulary, the words sounded familiar to me. So I posted TWICE flagrant violations of PLAGARISM on his part. In both cases, word for word and posted as his. Could be he forgot to link it, or say it, but when I called him on it, he never said a word. A few days ago, he did it again, although this time he changed just a few words from a Boston Globe story on Wellsley.

When not plagiarizing his main theme is to attack "progressives".

And he just keeps on plagiarizing and fooling people into thinking he's intelligent...when he's really nothing but a pseudo-intellectual.

air China cancels all flights to N Korea, N Korea sends troops to border!!!!geeeeez!




Pseudointellectual | Definition of Pseudointellectual by Merriam-Webster

Definition of pseudo-intellectual

: a person who wants to be thought of as having a lot of intelligence and knowledge but who is not really intelligent or knowledgeable

Originally Posted by Abby10

Thanks for your reply. I don't know about biased and misplaced as I know neither of the 2 you speak of other than from this forum. It could actually be 2 other people on this forum, it really wouldn't matter. The question I have is why so much, as you put it, harshness toward either one or both? So you don't like what they say, or you don't agree with their opinion, or you believe they are liars, whatever. Why the need to attack each and every post? Why not just ignore it if it bothers you so much? I don't think anyone on here needs another person, be it you, me, or someone else, to tell them how to think about another person and/or their post. But you seem to think it necessary to call certain people out constantly and sometimes in a very ugly way. I know I may be hoping for the impossible, but it would be nice if when we disagree we could do it in a fashion that is not again, as you say, so harsh. I often wonder when I see the numbers of people who actually view this forum, if the reason so few actually post is because they fear being called out - for not linking, or being a Trump supporter, or not being well read in the eyes of another poster.

Anyway, again, I thank you for taking the time to reply and for the kind words at the end. I hope you had an enjoyable Easter as well.....which makes me think, what the heck are we doing on here??

Since you don't have the history here and apparently haven't seen the constant attacks that come my way...you ask some very valid questions.

Let me just say...that I only give what I get.

Since you have shown a willingness to post with respect and decency, I will, as with others who do the same...reciprocate.

And if you aren't aware, you can start determining what people are like by hitting the 'quote' button in any post, scroll all the way down...and the last 10 posters user names will show next to their post.

So when you see me called the 'C' word (without EVER a condemnation from people like GG, who claim a supposed moral superiority )...you'll maybe understand my responses a little better.

Post #51 in this thread...being the perfect example.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...93-post51.html



Take care and have a great evening.

Originally Posted by Guest

Oh look, ANOTHER CASE OF RubiTHECon plagiarizing an opinion piece...without giving credit to the source.

Iran Is a Bigger Threat Than Syria and North Korea Combined - WSJ

In the first paragraph, it is almost word-for-word...to what 'The Con' posted.

Now, which of you posters still think...that Rubi is so smart?


Deepest Sincere Wishes:

I tried to make this point but to no avail.

Plagarism in any form is LYING.

When you read this man's post, in many cases, they are not his words. That is simply lying and posting under false pretense.

In addition, we get lectures from he and Gracie about conformity to the rules. PLAGARISM is against the rules, and is stealing from the real source.

I was asked to look in the mirror. I do not plagerize and I do not steal, yet I am to look in the mirror.

Yes, perhaps ignoring this would make Rubicon and Graciegirl happy, but that is dishonest.

To Abby, who was at least non judgemental, this is a regular course for these two, and I suppose it could be ignored, but why ?

Are we to give people some sort of break and for what reason.

If I plagerize or tell a lie, you should call me on it and right away.

I have been stewing in this and asking why in the world should someone be able to do this and I, and others, asked to back off or examine our actions.

Rubicon, NOT ME, steals by plagiarizing.

Rubicon, not me then lectures me and others in following rules. What rules is he referring to.

I also expect if you want to make a case, you research and share your information for others to see.

Originally Posted by Guest

I tried to make this point but to no avail.

Plagarism in any form is LYING.

When you read this man's post, in many cases, they are not his words. That is simply lying and posting under false pretense.

In addition, we get lectures from he and Gracie about conformity to the rules. PLAGARISM is against the rules, and is stealing from the real source.

I was asked to look in the mirror. I do not plagerize and I do not steal, yet I am to look in the mirror.

Yes, perhaps ignoring this would make Rubicon and Graciegirl happy, but that is dishonest.

To Abby, who was at least non judgemental, this is a regular course for these two, and I suppose it could be ignored, but why ?

Are we to give people some sort of break and for what reason.

If I plagerize or tell a lie, you should call me on it and right away.

I have been stewing in this and asking why in the world should someone be able to do this and I, and others, asked to back off or examine our actions.

Rubicon, NOT ME, steals by plagiarizing.

Rubicon, not me then lectures me and others in following rules. What rules is he referring to.

I also expect if you want to make a case, you research and share your information for others to see.

They are simply hypocritical fakes.

You know it, I know it, a few others know it and most importantly...THEY know it.

We can't really expect honesty and decency from those who exemplify the opposite...but that doesn't mean we can't call it out when it occurs.

Originally Posted by Guest

I tried to make this point but to no avail.

Plagarism in any form is LYING.

When you read this man's post, in many cases, they are not his words. That is simply lying and posting under false pretense.

In addition, we get lectures from he and Gracie about conformity to the rules. PLAGARISM is against the rules, and is stealing from the real source.

I was asked to look in the mirror. I do not plagerize and I do not steal, yet I am to look in the mirror.

Yes, perhaps ignoring this would make Rubicon and Graciegirl happy, but that is dishonest.

To Abby, who was at least non judgemental, this is a regular course for these two, and I suppose it could be ignored, but why ?

Are we to give people some sort of break and for what reason.

If I plagerize or tell a lie, you should call me on it and right away.

I have been stewing in this and asking why in the world should someone be able to do this and I, and others, asked to back off or examine our actions.

Rubicon, NOT ME, steals by plagiarizing.

Rubicon, not me then lectures me and others in following rules. What rules is he referring to.

I also expect if you want to make a case, you research and share your information for others to see.

And on a forum, does anyone really care? Is this your only contribution? You lefties are more concerned about the manner something is presented than with the content. Maybe, it's because you have no substance to back your argument?

Originally Posted by Guest

And on a forum, does anyone really care? Is this your only contribution? You lefties are more concerned about the manner something is presented than with the content. Maybe, it's because you have no substance to back your argument?

Yup...