Village golfer,I venture a guess that I have read more history books than most and I still do not see a correlation between the USA and exceptionalism. Please explain what makse us exceptional and other countries just ordinary,I really want to know,please educate me.

Originally Posted by djplong

Ummm.. The article says that Switzerland retained the top spot for the third consecutive year. We fell from the top spot in 2008 - *on Bush's watch*.

But rather than get into the Bush/Obama argument, I'd rather talk about or highlight the other point - that *Switzerland* - a high-tax, public health-care, generally-lots-of-things-today's-GOP-hates country is the reigning champ. One notable thing is that Switzerland is NOT part of the Euro. They still get to make their own policies.

Don't confuse them with facts!!!

Originally Posted by DaleMN

Not angry at all.....just tired of politicians talking about God as though he was a member of a particular party...or that he somehow favors America over all other countries.
Don't think God much cares either about who wins a particular sporting event.

Exactly...I can see teams praying that no one gets hurt, etc. but praying that they win? Really now......

Originally Posted by waynet

Village golfer,I venture a guess that I have read more history books than most and I still do not see a correlation between the USA and exceptionalism. Please explain what makse us exceptional and other countries just ordinary,I really want to know,please educate me.

Whose history did you read?

First Man on the Moon.

Saved Europe in WWII

Most innovative inventions

Greatest Navy

Greatest Army

Marines

Greatest jets and airplanes

Elvis

Hollywood

New York City

And that is just from the top of my head....

Originally Posted by DaleMN

There's a difference....think about it.

Please elucidate, if you can. I can see no big difference in these two cases of asking for God's intervention. What's the difference?

Originally Posted by RichieLion

Please elucidate, if you can. I can see no big difference in these two cases of asking for God's intervention. What's the difference?

Did you say hallucinate? I can do that.
Seriously, people say things like you used for an example all the time. Thank god I didn't go in the sand trap, thank god it didn't rain today. Those are harmless.
But their are other examples, Rick Perry and Michelle Bachmann come to mind who use references to God, either because they really believe what they say or are too naive to know better. I'd choose the latter. Bachmann backing off and saying it she was talking metaphorically when she said the hurricane was a message from God doesn't cut it. I believe she really meant that. I want a President who acts with logic and reality.
With regard to sports, I can't give specific examples but you and I have both heard athletes say in interviews "All glory goes to God" "God was with us today"
I happen to love the Green Bay Packers.....I doubt God has anything to do with any of their victories through history. I don't make myself real clear on this....but you get the gist.

Originally Posted by DaleMN

Did you say hallucinate? I can do that.
Seriously, people say things like you used for an example all the time. Thank god I didn't go in the sand trap, thank god it didn't rain today. Those are harmless.
But their are other examples, Rick Perry and Michelle Bachmann come to mind who use references to God, either because they really believe what they say or are too naive to know better. I'd choose the latter. Bachmann backing off and saying it she was talking metaphorically when she said the hurricane was a message from God doesn't cut it. I believe she really meant that. I want a President who acts with logic and reality.
With regard to sports, I can't give specific examples but you and I have both heard athletes say in interviews "All glory goes to God" "God was with us today"
I happen to love the Green Bay Packers.....I doubt God has anything to do with any of their victories through history. I don't make myself real clear on this....but you get the gist.

Then you must despise B Hussein Obama who has a Messiah Complex.

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

Then you must despise B Hussein Obama who has a Messiah Complex.

I highly respect Barack Hussein Obama....it's only the mean-spirited right wing haters that call him the Chosen One or the Messiah. In fact, he is the chosen one by the voters to be President....much to your chagrin.

Originally Posted by DaleMN

Did you say hallucinate? I can do that.
Seriously, people say things like you used for an example all the time. Thank god I didn't go in the sand trap, thank god it didn't rain today. Those are harmless.
But their are other examples, Rick Perry and Michelle Bachmann come to mind who use references to God, either because they really believe what they say or are too naive to know better. I'd choose the latter. Bachmann backing off and saying it she was talking metaphorically when she said the hurricane was a message from God doesn't cut it. I believe she really meant that. I want a President who acts with logic and reality.
With regard to sports, I can't give specific examples but you and I have both heard athletes say in interviews "All glory goes to God" "God was with us today"
I happen to love the Green Bay Packers.....I doubt God has anything to do with any of their victories through history. I don't make myself real clear on this....but you get the gist.

I do understand what you're saying. I'm just wondering if the fact that someone is asking God (seriously or not) to do something you don't agree with is the real issue that you have with it.

Originally Posted by DaleMN

I highly respect Barack Hussein Obama....it's only the mean-spirited right wing haters that call him the Chosen One or the Messiah. In fact, he is the chosen one by the voters to be President....much to your chagrin.

Well , it is your prerogative to respect a community organizer who has never held a real job in his life. A "man" who has never had a private sector job. A thug who threatens people who disagree with his ideals.

Don't you guys get sick of using the same old bull**** "mean-spirited?"

Mean spirited is what you liberals use to discredit women. It is shameful how you treat women candidates.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

I do understand what you're saying. I'm just wondering if the fact that someone is asking God (seriously or not) to do something you don't agree with is the real issue that you have with it.

Nope.....not at all.

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

Well , it is your prerogative to respect a community organizer who has never held a real job in his life. A "man" who has never had a private sector job. A thug who threatens people who disagree with his ideals.

Don't you guys get sick of using the same old bull**** "mean-spirited?"

I don't. Just keeping it real.

Originally Posted by DaleMN

I don't. Just keeping it real.

I should be like your liberal friends and put you on my ignore list. I feel I would not miss anything worthwhile.

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

I should be like your liberal friends and put you on my ignore list. I feel I would not miss anything worthwhile.

Nor would I miss you.

Originally Posted by DaleMN

Nor would I miss you.

Wow, now you hurt my feelings. You are mean-spirited.