Originally Posted by Guest

I've always found undocumented workers to be harder workers than most American workers.

And just how many undocumented workers have you "found".

Originally Posted by Guest

And just how many undocumented workers have you "found".

Enough to get the jobs done. Try to get an American worker to do low end work, it doesn't happen. Try to motivate a kid to work like we did, raking, mowing, shoveling snow, not happening.

Originally Posted by Guest

Enough to get the jobs done. Try to get an American worker to do low end work, it doesn't happen. Try to motivate a kid to work like we did, raking, mowing, shoveling snow, not happening.

Look at the low end work here in The Villages. The lawn maintenance, tree trimming, road work, and gardening - both employed by The Villages and contracters - are mainly Hispanics. What percentage are legal do you suspect?
Yet, we still hire them because they will do the work. What would The Villages look like without these hardworking people? Legal or not, I applaud them for doing the work and keeping our community looking great!

Originally Posted by Guest

If your premise is correct that the herd of illegals (I was not aware that a collection of humans was a herd as I had thought that term was reserved for animals) is costing the nation what the article claims, in the interest of balance, could you supply us with the benefit to our economy of having these "herd" people here?

Yes actually it was a herd that Obama let in and bused throughout the country

Originally Posted by Guest

Enough to get the jobs done. Try to get an American worker to do low end work, it doesn't happen. Try to motivate a kid to work like we did, raking, mowing, shoveling snow, not happening.

Actually Americans are perfectly happy to do all jobs. They just won't do them for $7.00 an hr. Unions used to care about that, but now they just want political power

Originally Posted by Guest

Enough to get the jobs done. Try to get an American worker to do low end work, it doesn't happen. Try to motivate a kid to work like we did, raking, mowing, shoveling snow, not happening.

American workers would do low-end work if the government stopped with the handouts and required them to work.

The fact that dems want 30 million new voters is not enough reason to screw American workers and ignore the law the pro amnesty side only has to win once and then the country is finished. There won't be any reason to care about politics anymore. Then at least I can clean out my garage. Any other bad law can be repealed for vs Wade, obamacare can be repealed. Amnesty is forever

Originally Posted by Guest

The fact that dems want 30 million new voters is not enough reason to screw American workers and ignore the law the pro amnesty side only has to win once and then the country is finished. There won't be any reason to care about politics anymore. Then at least I can clean out my garage. Any other bad law can be repealed for vs Wade, obamacare can be repealed. Amnesty is forever

This poster is obviously having a very difficult time with reality. If anyone knows him, please check on him to ensure he is okay.

Help your neighbors when possible.

Originally Posted by Guest

Read the article and post how many illegals came in during Bush's terms in office. Also, what expenditures are you referring to? Illegals do not get food stamps or welfare. They pay into Social Security and will not get anything back.

How many of the workers in The Villages doing your yardwork are legal? Why not call ICE and have all their employers checked to see if I-9's have been completed on each worker?
Become part of the soluion instead of just constant griping.

Of course illegals get welfare. The fact that any immigrants are on welfare proves we are not taking in the right immigrants if its 18% or25% it would be like saying "Only 18 or 25% of our cars burst into flames when u start them". 52% of legal immigrant households with children get welfare

Originally Posted by Guest

This poster is obviously having a very difficult time with reality. If anyone knows him, please check on him to ensure he is okay.

Help your neighbors when possible.

Why else do you think we are taking in the third world?? That would be 30 million votes for dems. If they couldn't change Americans minds, then they would change America which they are doing. I can't even find an American Dr anymore. I feel like I live in the international waiting room at the JFK airport. I just wanted to live in the America we grew up in. Just too much to ask, I guess?

Other countries must be laughing at us. Our "family reunification" policy is how we got "octomom" the unemployed single mom on welfare who had 14 children in the U.S., the Boston Marathon bombers and all those homegrown terrorists. The immigrants today are not the same as yrs ago The mass migration of the poorest of the poor is bad for the whole country

Do you enjoy pressing 1 for English?

America is apparently devolving into the dumbest, most suicidal society in history.

However, the solutions are straightforward ... build the wall, encourage legal immigration but only from people who can contribute ... then elect a leader who will not put up with any mindless bs, build the military back and incentivize work.

One more think ... halt Muslim immigration and encourage the growth of Christianity, while encouraging the self-selected deportation of all groups who hate the Country they live in ...ie hard core liberals for examples, plus Black Panther-types, La Raza and CAIR.

That will pretty much fix this otherwise sorry state of stupidity in which we find ourselves.

Originally Posted by Guest

Exactly what is it that is not acceptable in the existing immigration laws that have worked through this country's past and works except apparently between Mexico and The Usa....coming our way only?

What is it that so badly needs reform that the country has elected to not enforce the laws?

This is who is coming in! There are so many of these things being hidden! FOX news is part of the problem as they are there to enflame - did not see this thou!
Islamic Immigrants Drug, Sodomize, and $#@! a Defenseless Little Old Lady in Colorado

Originally Posted by Guest

America is apparently devolving into the dumbest, most suicidal society in history.

However, the solutions are straightforward ... build the wall, encourage legal immigration but only from people who can contribute ... then elect a leader who will not put up with any mindless bs, build the military back and incentivize work.

One more think ... halt Muslim immigration and encourage the growth of Christianity, while encouraging the self-selected deportation of all groups who hate the Country they live in ...ie hard core liberals for examples, plus Black Panther-types, La Raza and CAIR.

That will pretty much fix this otherwise sorry state of stupidity in which we find ourselves.

I think perhaps you are talking a bit overboard here.

Problem, as I see it, is all of these situations existed for years. We have always had people wanting to come here and we always had a percentage of illegals. There has always been a border that was suspect. We have always had a debate on how much military, how much public funds used for poor and the actual definition of whom we should help with government funds.

We have always had racial discourse and other.

Problem is, from my perspective, is that this has all become politics. Today, the democratic party is trying to umbrella everyone and to accelerate the speed in which things are done. Why.....the need to accelerate in order to satisfy the groups they have politicized. They were warned this would happen or could happen in the late 70's, but were intoxicated with the voting blocks.

We have lost the art of reasonable discussion to reach a middle ground and by making it so political we have made it more complicated than it needs to be.

We, as a nation, are catering to anyone that might bring in votes. In doing that we have made two sides....not one country and as long as we do this, we will make these problems bigger than they need to be.

How to fix ? I honestly have no suggestions. This mood is out of the bottle. If you defend the poor, you are a wimpy lib who wants to spend my money. If you want the rule of law to be upheld, you are a Fox junkie who is living in the past. How about a discussion to help the poor and enforcing the laws or changing them without the political consequences of doing what you are elected to do ? Oversimplified ? Of course it is, but we are (we = liberals and conservatives) are running away from each other at warp speed. PLEASE I have my opinion on who is doing the running but my intent was not to foster more anti this or that but to point out that all these problems existed, and were handled in the past, but without the need to get on television and threaten politicians with no voting blocks.

Media is another subject but if we got back to the rule of law, and reasonable non politicized discussion, who needs them