Originally Posted by coralway

What an absurd posting. What's your point? That Obama overwhelmingly won the black vote? He was the first black in the history of this nation to win a major Party's Presidential nomination. Duuuhhhhh ........

Let's see if you find this interesting ...... from 2008 ...

Obama won men (by 1 point)
Obama won women
Obama LOST among whites (gee, what a surprise, hu?)
Obama won asians
Obama won among 18-29 year olds
Obama won HS grads.
Obama won among those with some college
Obama won among college grads.
Obama won among 1st time voters
Obama won Protestants
Obama won Catholics
Obama won the Jews
Obama LOST among those who say they go to church once a week
Obama won in big cities
Obama won small cities
Obama won the suburbs
Obama LOST in small towns
Obama lost rural areas.

You also are looking for trouble where it is not and need to work hard your reading and comprehension skills.

Dont overcomplicate things so much

Originally Posted by Bucco

You really spend your time looking for trouble...in the post I typed this in which I thought to any reasonable person would show the intent of the post...

"That is that this President will do anything for votes and be totally shameless about his constant pandering."

I will try to be clearer for you because it sure seems like you are trying hard to begin a war of some kind.

Okay, and the point about 1 million African Americans voting in North Carolina where he won by 14,000 votes makes your point how?

a. He shouldn't appeal to African American voters
b. It is shameless pandering that motivated 1 million African Americans to vote in N.C.
c. His shamless pandering is more effective with African-American voters than with white voters
d. Romney is above shameless pandering for votes
e. other - please explain.

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

Okay, and the point about 1 million African Americans voting in North Carolina where he won by 14,000 votes makes your point how?

a. He shouldn't appeal to African American voters
b. It is shameless pandering that motivated 1 million African Americans to vote in N.C.
c. His shamless pandering is more effective with African-American voters than with white voters
d. Romney is above shameless pandering for votes
e. other - please explain.

You really and truly, despite your thread yesterday are simply and purely TRYING to begin trouble...

THIS directly quote from the post that has you so very very upset...

"it is not that he is afraid that black voters will all run to Romney....his fear his that will not vote."

Originally Posted by Bucco

You really and truly, despite your thread yesterday are simply and purely TRYING to begin trouble...

THIS directly quote from the post that has you so very very upset...

"it is not that he is afraid that black voters will all run to Romney....his fear his that will not vote."

I'm not upset, just looking for clarity. My thread yesterday was about vicious, mean-spirited, and dangerous rhetoric aimed at ANY politician, candidate or other citizen -- don't think I have directed any of the above at you, and if I have, I apologize. I am trying to understand why you chose to quote the statistic about the African-Americans voting in North Carolina. I can't see any connection between that statistic and the point you allegedly were trying to make. This new quote does nothing to clarify the point and is in fact unintelligible.

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

I'm not upset, just looking for clarity. My thread yesterday was about vicious, mean-spirited, and dangerous rhetoric aimed at ANY politician, candidate or other citizen -- don't think I have directed any of the above at you, and if I have, I apologize. I am trying to understand why you chose to quote the statistic about the African-Americans voting in North Carolina. I can't see any connection between that statistic and the point you allegedly were trying to make. This new quote does nothing to clarify the point and is in fact unintelligible.

SAYING that the hiring is not a fear of them going to Romney but a fear that they wont vote is not clear to you ?????? and SUPPLYING stats to validate why it is important

I read your posts on this thread yesterday and really hope you understand how very very very political and bias it was as if NO hate posts ever were made on this forum...I try very hard to be issue driven. Am i opposed to the current administraton....YEP...been so and said so since 2008 on here. Have I complimented him...YEP also and said so on here.

The speech you alluded to, in my opinion, on this forum is a one way street....every female Republican has been called some pretty bad things on here..EVERY ONE OF THEM.....and the cute nicknames that apparently do not bother you at all. You do not seem, from where I am sitting, to care or address the snide crude and non civil posts that are predominatly from the left. Every time I have tried to address them straight on, never saw you defend me...never saw you at all and they told me it was ok to do. I have never spoke of anyone like that.

Now, I understand the harshness and the violent talk...I agree with you but you act as if the previous president was not subject to so much more violent talk than is going on from anyone now YET you fail to mention it. Your OP was strictly and totally a left wing attack and that is how I took it.

I welcome you to visit the archives on here and NO MATTER what you use as paramaters you will find the vast huge majority of one line insults come from one side and one side only and I can say that with NO fear of contradiction.

I will say that as a result of your op and thread I intend to call folks on their lies,name calling, etc to whatever extent is possible. I was ignoring but not any longer...at minimum I can embarass them if that is possible

Sorry for the rant but after posting on this board for all these years and reading and being subject to such hate rants to read what you wrote was just so frustrating...but that is my problem that you sure dont care about.

This back and forth has me a bit upset..let me give it to you very simply...

The voting stats are important because of ...

the post mentioned that there was no fear of the black voters running to Romney but simply not voting.

Do you not think a statistic telling YOU how important voter turnout was in a sample state clarified that ?

unintelligible. ?


I will surely strive to get myself up to your standards Thanks for tolerating me

Originally Posted by Bucco

SAYING that the hiring is not a fear of them going to Romney but a fear that they wont vote is not clear to you ?????? and SUPPLYING stats to validate why it is important

I read your posts on this thread yesterday and really hope you understand how very very very political and bias it was as if NO hate posts ever were made on this forum...I try very hard to be issue driven. Am i opposed to the current administraton....YEP...been so and said so since 2008 on here. Have I complimented him...YEP also and said so on here. It was, and is, my position that Obama has been subject to more strident hatred than any previous president. I thought I made it clear I also thought the rhetoric toward W has inappropriate, however I never saw the level of hatred, leveled at him that I have at Obama. If you have, fine, I have not. I am an independent voter and had no bias in mind making my posts, other than that the rhetoric was becoming dangerous IN MY OPINION.

The speech you alluded to, in my opinion, on this forum is a one way street....every female Republican has been called some pretty bad things on here..EVERY ONE OF THEM.....and the cute nicknames that apparently do not bother you at all. You do not seem, from where I am sitting, to care or address the snide crude and non civil posts that are predominatly from the left. Every time I have tried to address them straight on, never saw you defend me...never saw you at all and they told me it was ok to do. I have never spoke of anyone like that. The cute nicknames are silly, but harmless. I never have indulged in that, but I have never seen the need to comment pro or con. Crude and non-civil does not necessarily rise to the level of incediary and dangerous, and I have not seen any posts on here from either side that I would characterize in that vein.

Now, I understand the harshness and the violent talk...I agree with you but you act as if the previous president was not subject to so much more violent talk than is going on from anyone now YET you fail to mention it. Your OP was strictly and totally a left wing attack and that is how I took it. I said it was wrong aimed at anyone and included a vilification of Bill Maher in my posts. I don't know what you expect me to do, but I have been as non-partisan in this issue as possible.

I welcome you to visit the archives on here and NO MATTER what you use as paramaters you will find the vast huge majority of one line insults come from one side and one side only and I can say that with NO fear of contradiction. The one line insults and silly names are generally from about two or three people, all of whom would probably self-identify as liberals. I have seen plenty of insulting and demeaning posts from the other end of the spectrum, but not as many silly names, though a few.

I will say that as a result of your op and thread I intend to call folks on their lies,name calling, etc to whatever extent is possible. I was ignoring but not any longer...at minimum I can embarass them if that is possible Glad I could bring you out of your shell.

Sorry for the rant but after posting on this board for all these years and reading and being subject to such hate rants to read what you wrote was just so frustrating...but that is my problem that you sure dont care about. What I care about is being understood, which I do not think you have. Good luck!

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Originally Posted by Bucco

This back and forth has me a bit upset..let me give it to you very simply...

The voting stats are important because of ...

the post mentioned that there was no fear of the black voters running to Romney but simply not voting.

Do you not think a statistic telling YOU how important voter turnout was in a sample state clarified that ?

unintelligible. ?


I will surely strive to get myself up to your standards Thanks for tolerating me

Here is the last part of the quote i was referencing: ....his fear his that will not vote." yep, it is still unintelligible.

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

......

Have you looked at the signs I posted that were aimed at Bush ? There are literally hundreds more and NOBODY CARED.

Have you researched the comments from folks like Cindy Sheehan who was traveled around the country by the Democratic party ?

Have you read the blogs...one entitled...KILLBUSH ?

Well, didnt need you to bring me out of my shell....but after KNOWING, POSTING facts on the past President....after KNOWING how I am on here about that kind of rhetoric.....after KNOWING that most of the liberal posters on here dont really post.they enjoy making fun of people and ridiculing and FOR THE MOST part NEVER engage in any political discussion unless they are able to ridicule somebody...well after that, then you post what you posted...that ired me and will stay with me that you are not even that aware of what has an is going on. It is startling how misinformed on this issue that you are.

I saw your posts on the healthcare bill....and that is posting great. DO you know how long I have been begging for posts on that bill an received nothing but insults ? Not just me but others as well...nothing but insults and it has been tried to have people discuss.

No, you did not bring me out as you say....It just made me aware of how little people on here realize and I am going to try to make everyone aware from here on in.

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

Here is the last part of the quote i was referencing: ....his fear his that will not vote." yep, it is still unintelligible.

You are really insulting REALLY.

You know that a typing mistake was made...and it should read THEY will not vote.

You are a very insulting person !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Bucco

Have you looked at the signs I posted that were aimed at Bush ? There are literally hundreds more and NOBODY CARED.

Have you researched the comments from folks like Cindy Sheehan who was traveled around the country by the Democratic party ?

Have you read the blogs...one entitled...KILLBUSH ?

Well, didnt need you to bring me out of my shell....but after KNOWING, POSTING facts on the past President....after KNOWING how I am on here about that kind of rhetoric.....after KNOWING that most of the liberal posters on here dont really post.they enjoy making fun of people and ridiculing and FOR THE MOST part NEVER engage in any political discussion unless they are able to ridicule somebody...well after that, then you post what you posted...that ired me and will stay with me that you are not even that aware of what has an is going on. It is startling how misinformed on this issue that you are.

I saw your posts on the healthcare bill....and that is posting great. DO you know how long I have been begging for posts on that bill an received nothing but insults ? Not just me but others as well...nothing but insults and it has been tried to have people discuss.

No, you did not bring me out as you say....It just made me aware of how little people on here realize and I am going to try to make everyone aware from here on in.

Cindy Sheehan is an activist though who was against the Iraq war because her son had been killed. Cindy Sheehan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia It looks like she is also against Obama's foreign policy. She has been arrested quite a few times for her activism.

For God's sake please bring back George W Bush or Cheney or McCain or Palin or Gingrich or anybody but Obama.......whew, the banks have stopped collapsing and the auto industries are again solvent, foreclosures are not what they were and people are again working, we're only fighting in one war, and someone even told me the other day that Osama bin Laden is dead........somebody please come and get Obama before we return to the Good Old Days......

He's a Muslim and that says it all. He's an embarrassment to our country and I'll be ecstatic when he is gone.

Originally Posted by Shimpy

He's a Muslim and that says it all. He's an embarrassment to our country and I'll be ecstatic when he is gone.

Wow Mr. Shimpy, I'll bet you can paint a whole house in a matter of minutes with that BROAD BRUSH you use.

Originally Posted by Shimpy

He's a Muslim and that says it all. He's an embarrassment to our country and I'll be ecstatic when he is gone.

Yeah, that's a great response. Kind of tells it all, doesn't it?

Amazing, Shrimpy, that a majority of American voters put Pres. Obama (your President) in office and the chances are he will be re-elected.