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Old 02-21-2016, 03:38 PM
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Well, WHY didn't Rubio - being such a patriot - I ever join the military? Therefore, no moral integrity.

As for term limits for Congress and the Supreme Court - this would have to be done through amendments to the Constitution and ratifications by 3/4 of the states. Extremely lengthy process - and how many Congressmen are going to vote on a 6 year term for themselves when they have such a sweet deal?
Military service is not a requirement for the position. Too bad, because that would be an asset.
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Old 02-21-2016, 07:16 PM
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1. Guess we'll just have to overlook that, right? By your opinion, we should have fired Biden, right?

2. The answer to this question is that we have exactly that in the White House right now.

3. We have a president that was pro-life, now isn't, was against gay marriage, now he is, was against raising the debt limit, now he is for it. Etc, etc.

4. Guess he will have to learn real fast, won't he. Looks like the writing is no the wall, and unless Rubio can beat him, Trump will be president number 45.
Allow me....

1. Your reference to Biden is confusing. To my knowledge, Joe Biden has NEVER EVER uttered profanity during a speech or answer to a question during a rally or news conference. Being picked up on a mike thinking you are private is a bit different than being so classless as to just spout that language in public (by the way in front of children)

2. Perhaps you are right but Trump has a filthy mouth and feel she is quite the stand up comedian at someone elses expense.

3. IT IS NOT TRUE that is what in the WH now. Trump has said, depending on the audience that he will completely repeal Obama care, adjust Obama Care, replace Obama care....depending on who he is talking to.

4. He has much to learn. His total lack of grasp of any issues is scary.

And most of all, I do not want this crass, foul mouthed, person representing my country. Thus we will see, you are right. Someone has to stop him.
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Old 02-22-2016, 12:10 AM
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Too many people who know nothing about the Constitution think it is easy to just say term limits should be imposed. Constitutional amendments take years of hard work to accomplish.
Then that means that Congress would have to actually stay on the job and WORK for a change instead of sucking up to their lobbyists and leaving every few days for "recess".

Speaking of recess: Why do they get recess and school kids can't anymore? At least something gets accomplished when the kids go out to play. Congress just finds different places to park their overpaid behinds!
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Old 02-22-2016, 04:39 AM
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Too many people who know nothing about the Constitution think it is easy to just say term limits should be imposed. Constitutional amendments take years of hard work to accomplish.
Dear Guest: First you don't know what I know about the US Constitution
Secondly, if you were not so quick to judge you would have let the words "wish list"sink in. Third every item on my wish list is never going to come to fruition and again, hence why I used the term "wish list"

As they say in my neck of the woods "I didn't just fall out of a tree".

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Old 02-22-2016, 05:05 AM
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Military service is not a requirement for the position. Too bad, because that would be an asset.
Dear Guest: This particular issue is a sensitive one for me. If I recall accurately the last sitting President to have had actual (regular Army) service was George HW Bush who was a pilot during WWII.

I believe that military service be required for a person to become an eligible candidate for president because as president s/he will also serve as Commander of the military. It would in my mind help a president better understand the consequences of his/her choices.

But then I am one that believes that conscription should be reinstated.

First a mercinary military contributed to Rome's decline.

Secondly an all volunteer military will eventually become cost prohibitive

Third because it will become cost prohibitive quality recruitment will hampered

Fourth because it is volunteer a large segment of societies young people will have no skin in the game

Fifth Because they have no skin in the game they will become disengaged in this nation's world affairs.

Sixth because it is voluntary and the purse is in the hands of politician it will only become more political rather than strategical.

How do I know. Well that's is what is happening now

Worse yet Obama's social experiments with our military has exacerbated the damage being created by politicians who had bowed to pressures and eliminate the draft in the first place .

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Old 02-22-2016, 05:57 AM
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Allow me....

1. Your reference to Biden is confusing. To my knowledge, Joe Biden has NEVER EVER uttered profanity during a speech or answer to a question during a rally or news conference. Being picked up on a mike thinking you are private is a bit different than being so classless as to just spout that language in public (by the way in front of children)

2. Perhaps you are right but Trump has a filthy mouth and feel she is quite the stand up comedian at someone elses expense.

3. IT IS NOT TRUE that is what in the WH now. Trump has said, depending on the audience that he will completely repeal Obama care, adjust Obama Care, replace Obama care....depending on who he is talking to.

4. He has much to learn. His total lack of grasp of any issues is scary.

And most of all, I do not want this crass, foul mouthed, person representing my country. Thus we will see, you are right. Someone has to stop him.
What I listed still stands. Your attempt to dispute it, did not do so.
Your comment about Biden is pretty funny, actually. To say that he used vulgarity on an open mic by accident so it doesn't count as using vulgarity, is like saying that an accidental gun discharge that kills someone doesn't count as killing someone because the person holding the gun in a robbery did not mean to shoot anyone.

Politicians promise a lot of things that they can't achieve, just to get elected. If people believe them, then that is their stupidity. Sanders is telling the college voter that he will give them free college. Everyone knows that he has no authority to do so and would not have congress supporting his idea. And even if it was possible, these kids would be paying for college for the rest of their lives via increased taxes.

I have no plan to vote for Trump unless he is nominated. But, his mouth is minor in relation to the faults of the candidates for the other party.
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Old 02-22-2016, 06:27 AM
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Your loose use of stating which groups are majorities in America speaks to the lack of credibility of the post.
You need to do a little research....beyond the talking points issued.
Maybe this will serve as an example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_a..._United_States
Maybe you need to do a little more research. According to the 2013 census,
The turnout rate of black voters surpassed the rate for whites for the first time on record in 2012, as more black voters went to the polls than in 2008 and fewer whites did. According to the census report, 66.2 percent of eligible blacks voted in the 2012 election, compared with 64.1 percent of eligible non-Hispanic whites. An estimated two million fewer white Americans voted in 2012 than in 2008, just as about 1.8 million more blacks went to the polls.
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Old 02-22-2016, 07:51 AM
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I just love the demonstrated hypocracy of any opposition to their position or party. They go on and on making lists of those attributes they do not like in an opposing candidate. Or their lack of one or another.

And when one finishes reading their list we can only conclude they have ingeniously descibed Obama.

How does that work. All that they say the opposition does not have or is incapable of is OK for their current choice Obama.
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Old 02-22-2016, 07:52 AM
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Maybe you need to do a little more research. According to the 2013 census,
The turnout rate of black voters surpassed the rate for whites for the first time on record in 2012, as more black voters went to the polls than in 2008 and fewer whites did. According to the census report, 66.2 percent of eligible blacks voted in the 2012 election, compared with 64.1 percent of eligible non-Hispanic whites. An estimated two million fewer white Americans voted in 2012 than in 2008, just as about 1.8 million more blacks went to the polls.
Ah, but you didn't say anything about the black turnout. You said " Plus, she clearly will get the votes of blacks and people of color, who are a majority in the country." Say what you mean or quit trying to back pedal when you get it wrong. Just admit it when you make a mistake. But, nice try. I have to applaud the fact that you actually looked something up. Most liberals are too lazy to make the effort.
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Old 02-22-2016, 10:34 AM
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Ah, but you didn't say anything about the black turnout. You said " Plus, she clearly will get the votes of blacks and people of color, who are a majority in the country." Say what you mean or quit trying to back pedal when you get it wrong. Just admit it when you make a mistake. But, nice try. I have to applaud the fact that you actually looked something up. Most liberals are too lazy to make the effort.
Yes, I clearly had a typo and missed one word - "VOTING" as in voting majority. Good catch. Pat your self on the back - you clearly need your ego bolstered. But the fact is, the TURNOUT of black voters will propel the Democrats to a victory. And I daresay, laziness probably better applies to the Republicans as far as getting off their rear ends and out to the polls.
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Old 02-22-2016, 11:15 AM
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Yes, I clearly had a typo and missed one word - "VOTING" as in voting majority. Good catch. Pat your self on the back - you clearly need your ego bolstered. But the fact is, the TURNOUT of black voters will propel the Democrats to a victory. And I daresay, laziness probably better applies to the Republicans as far as getting off their rear ends and out to the polls.
Unlike your response, it was not an issue of "ego." My confidence in myself is fine. So, you have a choice of having a civil debate and receive a respectful reply, OR you can get snarky and be ignored. It's up to you.

Assuming that you wish to be civil, I'd like to point out that Hillary will not get anywhere near the black voter turnout that Obama received. Why not? Because even though Bill was considered the first black president, SHE is fake, a poser, considered insincere and a liar. No one believes that blacks are stupid, in that they can easily be conned by someone that obviously changes her accent according to the environment and demographic.

I predict that there will be a very low Democrat voter turn out this election season. The older generation will not vote for a commie, and are not easily deceived by a disloyal liar. Since the pickin's be scarce on the left, they will either decline to turn out or some may even vote for Trump. I doubt that the Independent voter will even consider a Dem vote this go around.
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Old 02-22-2016, 01:29 PM
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My biggest concern is not so much the White House as it is the Supreme Court.. If the Republicans do not win in November we will see a 5-4 liberal tilted Court with a 6-3 or even 7-2 tilt in the next 4-8 years. In my opinion we have some good candidates especially compared to the left, but what truly matters is getting behind whomever wins the nomination UNLESS you're good with Obama Care becoming permanent, Immigration staying the same or worse and our 2nd Amendment rights being "tweeked" by the far left Supreme Court.. If you're not ok with that then I suggest we look at this election as the most important of our lifetime, one that could have serious consequences that will last a generation or more..If the 65 million gun owners or the proponents of the 2nd just VOTE whether it's Rubio, Trump or Cruz than things should be fine, if not than it's a vote for Hillary and complete uncertainty of the above mentioned for years to come....
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Old 02-22-2016, 01:37 PM
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I can understand your disgust in the Republican candidates. The only decent one is John Kasich and he does not have a prayer. Trump, Cruz, and Rubio are embarrassing to the USA if they were ever elected as President.

Bernie Sanders would be a terrible president. Absolutely nothing would be passed by Congress.

Hillary has experience as a former First Lady and she was the brains of the Clinton presidency. She will be an excellent President.

Hopefully voters will get a majority of Democratic members in Congress so things can be accomplished instead of just more divisive politics.
I have a problem with only Hillary's honesty being questioned. I have never heard a reporter or talk show question any other candidate's honesty. I am sure the dishonesty issue can be a question for each candidate. The only difference is Hillary's actions have been made public because of her status. The others have well hidden issues. Think about the people and the list and see if you don't agree. And as far as incompetence, I am sure there is enough of that to go around.

Bernie, well social issues have to be address. Do I agree with everything Bernie is asking for? No, but some of it makes sense. Capitalism without a conscious is a disaster for a country and its people.

I agree with your assessment of Trump and Cruz. Rubio seems to have a habit of not completing his obligation to his offices. Suck it up and do your job. Kasich may be the only moderate in the group and therefore may be able to get congress working again. Your guess is as good as mine. Good luck to all of us.
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Old 02-22-2016, 02:13 PM
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My biggest concern is not so much the White House as it is the Supreme Court.. If the Republicans do not win in November we will see a 5-4 liberal tilted Court with a 6-3 or even 7-2 tilt in the next 4-8 years. In my opinion we have some good candidates especially compared to the left, but what truly matters is getting behind whomever wins the nomination UNLESS you're good with Obama Care becoming permanent, Immigration staying the same or worse and our 2nd Amendment rights being "tweeked" by the far left Supreme Court.. If you're not ok with that then I suggest we look at this election as the most important of our lifetime, one that could have serious consequences that will last a generation or more..If the 65 million gun owners or the proponents of the 2nd just VOTE whether it's Rubio, Trump or Cruz than things should be fine, if not than it's a vote for Hillary and complete uncertainty of the above mentioned for years to come....
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Old 02-22-2016, 04:58 PM
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Unlike your response, it was not an issue of "ego." My confidence in myself is fine. So, you have a choice of having a civil debate and receive a respectful reply, OR you can get snarky and be ignored. It's up to you.

Assuming that you wish to be civil, I'd like to point out that Hillary will not get anywhere near the black voter turnout that Obama received. Why not? Because even though Bill was considered the first black president, SHE is fake, a poser, considered insincere and a liar. No one believes that blacks are stupid, in that they can easily be conned by someone that obviously changes her accent according to the environment and demographic.

I predict that there will be a very low Democrat voter turn out this election season. The older generation will not vote for a commie, and are not easily deceived by a disloyal liar. Since the pickin's be scarce on the left, they will either decline to turn out or some may even vote for Trump. I doubt that the Independent voter will even consider a Dem vote this go around.
"SHE is fake, a poser, considered insincere and a liar."

By who, you! I consider you an idiot, that makes it official!
 

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