Originally Posted by Guest

If we had single payer health insurance like in canada and britain, there would be no argument on this site. A canadian justly said that he doesn't mind paying more taxes because a person in a different part of the country needs life saving surgery.....he says that it is just plain concern and empathy for his fellow man. It looks like here in the u.s. You really don't care about your neighbor, or the person across the country that needs medical help.....you only think that you are being taken advantage of by those who "don't deserve" to be healthy, or to live. I think that collectively, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Sure, good old Canada's health care. That's why my wife's relatives come to the U.S. for medical treatment. That's why her sister died because she could not get cancer treatment early enough. That's why you have to pay supplemental private insurance if you wish to have quality service and that is why they have such high taxes.

Some folks say they don't mind paying higher taxes so others can have life saving care? B.S.! That is the liberal dream, only they want someone else to pay for it.

The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence(in this case BORDER).

Your comment is born of ignorance of truth and facts.

Originally Posted by Guest

Although a little blunt I believe you have captured the problem quite well. Now for the forum, how do we constructively address it.

Tell me oh wise one, what would you do. Sounds like the repubs want a "death panel", weren't the repub's railing about a "death panel" with Obamacare?

Originally Posted by Guest

Sure, good old Canada's health care. That's why my wife's relatives come to the U.S. for medical treatment. That's why her sister died because she could not get cancer treatment early enough. That's why you have to pay supplemental private insurance if you wish to have quality service and that is why they have such high taxes.

Some folks say they don't mind paying higher taxes so others can have life saving care? B.S.! That is the liberal dream, only they want someone else to pay for it.

The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence(in this case BORDER).

Your comment is born of ignorance of truth and facts.

So, I guess you would rather not have any health care at all. Do you have auto insurance, your paying more in your premiums for people who have accidents, maybe you should cancel your's. I have relatives in Canada and they love their health insurance, is it perfect, no, like you.

Originally Posted by Guest

We pay because they're women...NEVER held accountable...always bailed out....never blamed.

Typical redneck, blame all woman, you must hate your mother, did she discipline and you cried.

Originally Posted by racist (unt

Says Racist Boy Baldwin's...'Mini-Me.'

Go ahead lash out at me with accusations for acknowledging Don beats you like an old rug, time after time.
Your an ugly woman (at least inside) that claims not to be a racist (although you slipped when you inferred people that did not speak good English were undocumented), but you have yet won an argument with the guy.

He has acknowledged being a racist...you call others on here racists because they won't debate racial issues with Don...simply put that makes you are a racist for not trying hard enough to dispute his claims!





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Originally Posted by dimwitdave

So, I guess you would rather not have any health care at all. Do you have auto insurance, your paying more in your premiums for people who have accidents, maybe you should cancel your's. I have relatives in Canada and they love their health insurance, is it perfect, no, like you.

Care to explain why insurance companies give a discount on auto insurance for not having accidents and not getting tickets...Idiot!

If you like Canada's socialized health care so much...move there!

I think it is terrible, a couple I have known for years has a daughter that had a brain tumor. They (socialized healthcare) scheduled the girl for treatment 18 months later and told them that was expedited service...that couple quickly moved thier family and their business to Ohio.



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Originally Posted by Guest

Tell me oh wise one, what would you do. Sounds like the repubs want a "death panel", weren't the repub's railing about a "death panel" with Obamacare?

Gotta have them. Can't give EVERYONE unlimited care. We're bankrupt already...you just don't realize it. They owe $20 trillion...$20,000,000,000,000...borrow over $1 trillion...$1,000,000,000,000, and pay over $500 billion...$500,000,000,000 every year in interest. WHY do you think your CD only pays 1%? They keep the interest rates artificially low...so they can make the "minimum" payment. They NEVER pay off the debt, they roll it over into new debt.

YES..."death panels" ARE coming. You'll know when the movies and TV start getting us used to the idea. Themes like "grandma isn't getting any better and she's so unhappy, in so much pain...let's fight for her RIGHT to a dignified death".

Anything else hastens our demise. The CERTAIN demise of the country becoming a minority majority. Whites have gone from 90% in the 50s...to 49% this year. As our numbers have dropped...the nation has dropped...from #1 to #25.

Racial diversity destroys...always.

Originally Posted by Guest

So, I guess you would rather not have any health care at all. Do you have auto insurance, your paying more in your premiums for people who have accidents, maybe you should cancel your's. I have relatives in Canada and they love their health insurance, is it perfect, no, like you.

Not really...they pay more or they are dropped. A company won't WILLINGLY lose money on ANY customer. The GOVERNMENT forces them to. If you drive like sh!t...you pay more. Why isn't healthcare the same? You treat your body like sh!t, you're unfortunately born with a costly condition, you should pay for it. If you don't pay for car insurance, you self insure...or...you're supposed to not drive. With healthcare...you either pay your "fair share" based on what you'll use, of take care of it on your own.

The OTHER difference is...MOST people don't ever "cash in" on their car insurance policy. Most people don't cost the insurance company the whole $1 million of coverage. Whereas HEALTH insurance usually DOES get "cashed in" as in most people WILL use on average $1 million in healthcare costs. MOST happening in the LAST year of life...in a fruitless effort to give someone a few extra months. THAT is where "death panels" MUST come in.

Originally Posted by Guest

Typical redneck, blame all woman, you must hate your mother, did she discipline and you cried.

Don't blame them ALL...just most. Don't blame ALL the minorities...just most.

Why would knowing my mother wasn't my fathers intellectual or physical equal mean I hate her? Do you HATE one of your children because they may be "inferior" to their other siblings?

Ah Davi...should have known.

Originally Posted by guest

sure, good old canada's health care. That's why my wife's relatives come to the u.s. For medical treatment. That's why her sister died because she could not get cancer treatment early enough. That's why you have to pay supplemental private insurance if you wish to have quality service and that is why they have such high taxes.

Some folks say they don't mind paying higher taxes so others can have life saving care? B.s.! That is the liberal dream, only they want someone else to pay for it.

The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence(in this case border).

Your comment is born of ignorance of truth and facts.

i am from canada, my relatives have had wonderful care there, and i will ask you how long it takes to get an appointment here in the us with a specialist.....especially "out of your network". You evidently don't understand insurance and the concept of group protection. It is like the fire department: You pay taxes for their service(most areas) and if your house catches fire they come, but you don't complain about the other guy's house catching fire because you pay "too much" in taxes....

Originally Posted by Guest

i am from canada, my relatives have had wonderful care there, and i will ask you how long it takes to get an appointment here in the us with a specialist.....especially "out of your network". You evidently don't understand insurance and the concept of group protection. It is like the fire department: You pay taxes for their service(most areas) and if your house catches fire they come, but you don't complain about the other guy's house catching fire because you pay "too much" in taxes....

Canada doesn't have the minority or poverty problems we have here. Canada is mostly white and Asian in the west. They don't have the Hispanic/black problem we have here. Canada has only 3% blacks...1% Hispanics...Canada is still 90% white...THAT is why Canada is a nice place. MOST of the people in Canada are not on welfare...MOST contribute into the system...not taking it out like here in the US. Canada is what the US COULD be if we didn't have a minority majority.

Demographics of Canada - Wikipedia

EVERYBODY MUST pay their fair share too. Should YOU pay $2000 a year and your neighbor only pays $1000? If your neighbor lets everything go and THEN files a claim to get it all fixed...is that fair to you who spent to keep things maintained all along?

Should EVERYONE get "free" insurance? A "free" $1 million in healthcare? No matter the circumstances? No matter how costly? How futile?

Originally Posted by Guest

Canada doesn't have the minority or poverty problems we have here. Canada is mostly white and Asian in the west. They don't have the Hispanic/black problem we have here. Canada has only 3% blacks...1% Hispanics...Canada is still 90% white...THAT is why Canada is a nice place. MOST of the people in Canada are not on welfare...MOST contribute into the system...not taking it out like here in the US. Canada is what the US COULD be if we didn't have a minority majority.

Demographics of Canada - Wikipedia

EVERYBODY MUST pay their fair share too. Should YOU pay $2000 a year and your neighbor only pays $1000? If your neighbor lets everything go and THEN files a claim to get it all fixed...is that fair to you who spent to keep things maintained all along?

Should EVERYONE get "free" insurance? A "free" $1 million in healthcare? No matter the circumstances? No matter how costly? How futile?

Your racism and ignorance is very apparent. The topic is health insurance and NOT demographics. All Canadians, no matter their race get health care. Comparing ethnicity is just avoiding the subject. Besides, more US whites are on welfare, get food stamps, and other social services than any other ethnic group in the US.

Originally Posted by Guest

Your racism and ignorance is very apparent. The topic is health insurance and NOT demographics. All Canadians, no matter their race get health care. Comparing ethnicity is just avoiding the subject. Besides, more US whites are on welfare, get food stamps, and other social services than any other ethnic group in the US.

There is no "ignorance" on my part at all...the ignorance is all yours young lady.

90% of Canadians are white...they have jobs and they contribute EQUALLY to the tax system that pays for healthcare for all...agreed? Or do you deny the census numbers? The welfare numbers? Go look for yourself...I'll wait.

In America...49% are white and the REST are minorities...in America half the population TAKES from the government, 50 million are on food stamps, millions are in public housing, section 8 housing. Our "poor" population is larger than Canada's total population of 35 million. We have states with almost that kind of population.

As the WHITE population declines...EVERYTHING declines with it. Health, safety, happiness...compare the villages, 99% white...to ANYWHERE that is "diverse".

WHITES do NOT receive more welfare benefits than anyone else. That is a LIE. Hispanics are counted as WHITE. Go down to the welfare office...today...if you're afraid to go in because of the neighborhood...park and watch WHO goes in...minority women...they're ALL minority women...with a sprinkling of white girls with black kids.

You are being fooled...we are NOT the same. We're NOT the same species. We're as different as wolves and your cockapoo. We don't belong together any more than we should be living with any of the other apes. They are apes that can speak...the "missing link". Uncomfortable...but true nonetheless.

The proof is EVERYWHERE. Where ARE they EVER successful? Where? Name ONE place YOU would move to that is a majority black. A place you'd want your granddaughter to live. There are NONE...not one.

We are NOT the same.

Originally Posted by Guest

There is no "ignorance" on my part at all...the ignorance is all yours young lady.

90% of Canadians are white...they have jobs and they contribute EQUALLY to the tax system that pays for healthcare for all...agreed? Or do you deny the census numbers? The welfare numbers? Go look for yourself...I'll wait.

In America...49% are white and the REST are minorities...in America half the population TAKES from the government, 50 million are on food stamps, millions are in public housing, section 8 housing. Our "poor" population is larger than Canada's total population of 35 million. We have states with almost that kind of population.

As the WHITE population declines...EVERYTHING declines with it. Health, safety, happiness...compare the villages, 99% white...to ANYWHERE that is "diverse".

WHITES do NOT receive more welfare benefits than anyone else. That is a LIE. Hispanics are counted as WHITE. Go down to the welfare office...today...if you're afraid to go in because of the neighborhood...park and watch WHO goes in...minority women...they're ALL minority women...with a sprinkling of white girls with black kids.

You are being fooled...we are NOT the same. We're NOT the same species. We're as different as wolves and your cockapoo. We don't belong together any more than we should be living with any of the other apes. They are apes that can speak...the "missing link". Uncomfortable...but true nonetheless.

The proof is EVERYWHERE. Where ARE they EVER successful? Where? Name ONE place YOU would move to that is a majority black. A place you'd want your granddaughter to live. There are NONE...not one.

We are NOT the same.

We all bleed red blood, we are human......you are just plain racist and as such you have no credibility with this discussion regarding healthcare.

Originally Posted by Guest

This: "We pay because they're women...NEVER held accountable...always bailed out....never blamed."

Is being a "flaming as$hole"?

It's true...WHEN are women held accountable? The truth HURTS...yes it does. Don't expect me to go along with your delusion.

What were YOU better at than ANY man? Nothing. You're not an equal to men. Stop lying to yourself. How many programs are there JUST for women who need help? Why are there so many? Because WOMEN...ALWAYS...need help. They also NEED quotas because people don't hire them because they're NOT as good as white men in most fields.

They pop out a kid they shouldn't have and they have automatic welfare. Have enough kids and you can get up to $60,000 a year in benefits. Free house, free food, free phone, healthcare, education.

No wonder the young of today don't want to work, they see how easy it is NOT to work.

Go to the welfare office...minority women and whites with black kids. Go down there...it should be close to MLK Blvd to make it "convenient" for them. Be sure to stay around, watch how the neighborhood changes at night. Socialize with them...don't be afraid. IF you get back in one piece...you can tell us about it.

Yes...you suckered me in again. Wasted time for you...but not for others. If I've convinced just one that the nation MUST go back to the ways of the 50s. White men doing what they do best...creating and improving western civilization.

Guess all those women got pregnant by immaculate conception, did they? And you talk about accountability? Hello.

While we're at it, why should women pay for men's Viagra that's covered by some insurance policies? Or do you consider that as "women being held accountable"?

Let's not ignore the large Russian and Chinese population that pockets portions of the US that are getting welfare and SS benefits. Now that the US has become a melting pot, we just need a government that can function in a way that Deals with our problems instead of creating them.

Originally Posted by Guest

We all bleed red blood, we are human......you are just plain racist and as such you have no credibility with this discussion regarding healthcare.

No...actually we're not...that's the point that is lost on you. Genetically we are different species. Squirrels bleed red too...are you a squirrel?

Originally Posted by Guest

Guess all those women got pregnant by immaculate conception, did they? And you talk about accountability? Hello.

While we're at it, why should women pay for men's Viagra that's covered by some insurance policies? Or do you consider that as "women being held accountable"?

They got pregnant by spreading their legs. Keep them closed. Or do you have NO self control?

Why do men pay for your "woman only" problems and medications?

Originally Posted by Guest

Let's not ignore the large Russian and Chinese population that pockets portions of the US that are getting welfare and SS benefits. Now that the US has become a melting pot, we just need a government that can function in a way that Deals with our problems instead of creating them.

Yes...lets do it...kick out the illegals AND their illegal anchor babies...about 50 million of them. Norplant while on welfare. Drug tests for welfare recipients and if found positive, sterilization.