Again, just to help the anointed one who feels calling any Republican a white sheet racist or some such thing, just a few things he may not know but should if he is that involved and sensitive to race. Ever notice that you do not hear Republicans call other people racists or bigots much....well...

1. The Republican Party was founded primarily to oppose slavery, and Republicans eventually abolished slavery. The Democratic Party fought them and tried to maintain and expand slavery. The 13th Amendment, abolishing slavery, passed in 1865 with 100% Republican support but only 23% Democrat support in congress.

2. During the Civil War era, the "Radical Republicans" were given that name because they wanted to not only end slavery but also to endow the freed slaves with full citizenship, equality, and rights.

3. The Ku Klux Klan was originally and primarily an arm of the Southern Democratic Party. Its mission was to terrorize freed slaves and "ni**er-loving" (their words) Republicans who sympathized with them.

4. n the 1950s, President Eisenhower, a Republican, integrated the US military and promoted civil rights for minorities. Eisenhower pushed through the Civil Rights Act of 1957. One of Eisenhower's primary political opponents on civil rights prior to 1957 was none other than Lyndon Johnson, then the Democratic Senate Majority Leader. LBJ had voted the straight segregationist line until he changed his position and supported the 1957 Act.

5. The historic Civil Rights Act of 1964 was supported by a higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats in both houses of Congress. In the House, 80 percent of the Republicans and 63 percent of the Democrats voted in favor. In the Senate, 82 percent of the Republicans and 69 percent of the Democrats voted for it.

6. Contrary to popular misconception, the parties never "switched" on racism. The Democrats just switched from overt racism to a subversive strategy of getting blacks as dependent as possible on government to secure their votes. At the same time, they began a cynical smear campaign to label anyone who opposes their devious strategy as greedy racists.


A Short History of Democrats, Republicans, and Racism


I have told this story before and it is true as true can be. I had a high position with the Democratic party in the early 70's on a state level. I left the party when I realized what they were doing to the blacks, and how they were being used.

I am very sensitive to this because I lived it and am just sick of hearing all this stuff from people who do not know what they are talking about, and sadly do not even care that they do not know.

Point is, get off your high horse. Alinsky taught you well. Attack personally and do not stop.

Originally Posted by Guest

Again, just to help the anointed one who feels calling any Republican a white sheet racist or some such thing, just a few things he may not know but should if he is that involved and sensitive to race. Ever notice that you do not hear Republicans call other people racists or bigots much....well...

1. The Republican Party was founded primarily to oppose slavery, and Republicans eventually abolished slavery. The Democratic Party fought them and tried to maintain and expand slavery. The 13th Amendment, abolishing slavery, passed in 1865 with 100% Republican support but only 23% Democrat support in congress.

2. During the Civil War era, the "Radical Republicans" were given that name because they wanted to not only end slavery but also to endow the freed slaves with full citizenship, equality, and rights.

3. The Ku Klux Klan was originally and primarily an arm of the Southern Democratic Party. Its mission was to terrorize freed slaves and "ni**er-loving" (their words) Republicans who sympathized with them.

4. n the 1950s, President Eisenhower, a Republican, integrated the US military and promoted civil rights for minorities. Eisenhower pushed through the Civil Rights Act of 1957. One of Eisenhower's primary political opponents on civil rights prior to 1957 was none other than Lyndon Johnson, then the Democratic Senate Majority Leader. LBJ had voted the straight segregationist line until he changed his position and supported the 1957 Act.

5. The historic Civil Rights Act of 1964 was supported by a higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats in both houses of Congress. In the House, 80 percent of the Republicans and 63 percent of the Democrats voted in favor. In the Senate, 82 percent of the Republicans and 69 percent of the Democrats voted for it.

6. Contrary to popular misconception, the parties never "switched" on racism. The Democrats just switched from overt racism to a subversive strategy of getting blacks as dependent as possible on government to secure their votes. At the same time, they began a cynical smear campaign to label anyone who opposes their devious strategy as greedy racists.


A Short History of Democrats, Republicans, and Racism


I have told this story before and it is true as true can be. I had a high position with the Democratic party in the early 70's on a state level. I left the party when I realized what they were doing to the blacks, and how they were being used.

I am very sensitive to this because I lived it and am just sick of hearing all this stuff from people who do not know what they are talking about, and sadly do not even care that they do not know.

Point is, get off your high horse. Alinsky taught you well. Attack personally and do not stop.

Your points 1-5 are absolutely right.
You do seem to be doing a fair share of attacking personally.
I am not a Democrat. I am a Progressive. I only had one seminar under Saul Alinski. No matter what you think of his political views and methods, he was a brilliant political scientist.
Take care.

Originally Posted by Guest

Your points 1-5 are absolutely right.
You do seem to be doing a fair share of attacking personally.
I am not a Democrat. I am a Progressive. I only had one seminar under Saul Alinski. No matter what you think of his political views and methods, he was a brilliant political scientist.
Take care.

You can call it "attacking personally", however I have been on the other end so many times on here....I have been called a racist so many times, and not on issues even remotely connected with racial issues.

I am just sick of the tired old racist call. Not sure how I made it personal...never mentioned names although most on here know who he/they are who use that slander kind of language. They do not feel it is personal.

I am just tired of it and will not tolerate that racist bigot call any longer. People on here deserve better than to be called names simply because they do not agree with certain people

I apologize to anyone who reads and feels I was being personal. Just understand how tired I, maybe nobody else, but I am tired of that term being used to conceal ignorance and laziness in not wanting to actually learn anything or discuss on a mature level.

Originally Posted by Guest

The reason I and many other conservatives like Trump is because he's Not a politician, not afraid to tell the truth (ref borders) makes a good negotiator, knows the financial disaster this country is in, is willing to sit and listen to experts on major decisions etc. Trumps ego doesn't bother me in the least. I would rather have a president with a good healthy ego than the arrogant one in office now. After all Trumps message is good. He's rich, he is successful because yes he built it, he did it himself without handouts. That alone is something to brag about and a good role model for the younger generation Trump doing great in polls. No 2 in Iowa, no 2 in new Hampshire a threat to the dems so they of course try to destroy him. Go Donald tell it like it is

You call using other people's money and abusing bankruptcy law, leaving them holding the bag as "doing it by himself without handouts"? Role model for younger people......seriously? Puleeeeez get all your right wing loonies to nominate that pompous sleaze bag blow hard, assuring a Democrat landslide in the general.

Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by Guest

1. Your spite filled comments always tend to bring this forum to its knees, and I must assume it is your intent, so congratulations.

2. NOBODY agrees with any, on either side, of the words spoken by their folks who are speaking out. I certainly am not even aware of most of what any of them even say, HOWEVER, I must tell you that i do in fact read both sides and no matter their politics, I do consider what they say.

3. You just cannot use the terms you use over and over and over again. It appears that anyone who does not come around to your way of thinking is a racist, which even you know is not true, but it is the single one thing you can say. NEVER do I see factual replies to any posts; simply call them a racist or whatever other hateful term is rolling off your tongue at the time.

4. The post that included the post using Ann Coulters comments also had TWO links to US Government websites which was NEVER commented on. AND, I posted it and never alluded to anything except her quote on which she is 100 PERCENT correct. NOBODY HAS SET OUT TO DISPROVE HIM. THEY JUST SIMPLY CALL HIM NAMES.

5. I do think that Trump over does it but he raises valid questions that need to be discussed and cannot be dismissed with sophmoric name calling, but if you are against discussing facts as presented by your government and need to stick with nothing but name calling, then that is you.....how you define yourself.

What the heck are you talking about? Take your meds.

And by the way, NUMBER 6 IS THE MOST CORRECT OF THEM ALL.

Do a bit of reading and learn....I lived it....it is true and denying that truth which if you do any reading at all, can be verified, is your loss.

The Democratic party did not suddenly become so equal rights concerned just over night in the mid 60's. I give them credit...they were and continue to be smart about it. They recognized an opportunity and jumped on it.

Originally Posted by Guest

You call using other people's money and abusing bankruptcy law, leaving them holding the bag as "doing it by himself without handouts"? Role model for younger people......seriously? Puleeeeez get all your right wing loonies to nominate that pompous sleaze bag blow hard, assuring a Democrat landslide in the general.

Personal Best Regards:

I am for sure not a fan of Trump but notice that much of what you attack him for applies equally to the leading democratic candidate, except I am not aware of any bankruptcy involved. But she certainly has used a lot of people and earlier someone mentioned his character which is fuzzy I agree, but hey....it applies even more to the democratic candidate so at best it is a draw on the points you feel are important.

I only like Trump because he will force discussion and I hope the media will do their job and allow or insist that conversation cross the aisle.

Originally Posted by Guest

What the heck are you talking about? Take your meds.

Gotta love it. Some have a limited vocabulary. You are either a tea partier, a racist, a bigot or carrying a white sheet...all you gotta do is disagree. Then they add the "take your meds". Thanks for the suggestion.

I posted THREE links for discussion concerning problems with immigrants coming in our southern border.

A poster IGNORED TOTALLY the first two which were links to government sites, and focused instead on a Coulter article only linked as I explained because she made a very valid point about the media coverage.

No need to waste any time on Trump. He will not be the Republican candidate. No chance at all.

Concentrating on Scott Walker and what he can do for the Republican party and how he can effectively get the economy back on track and keep the country safe is the priority now.

He will be the candidate and everyone should get behind him with volunteerism and money to get him over the 270 electoral votes.

Originally Posted by Guest

Again, just to help the anointed one who feels calling any Republican a white sheet racist or some such thing, just a few things he may not know but should if he is that involved and sensitive to race. Ever notice that you do not hear Republicans call other people racists or bigots much....well...

1. The Republican Party was founded primarily to oppose slavery, and Republicans eventually abolished slavery. The Democratic Party fought them and tried to maintain and expand slavery. The 13th Amendment, abolishing slavery, passed in 1865 with 100% Republican support but only 23% Democrat support in congress.

2. During the Civil War era, the "Radical Republicans" were given that name because they wanted to not only end slavery but also to endow the freed slaves with full citizenship, equality, and rights.

3. The Ku Klux Klan was originally and primarily an arm of the Southern Democratic Party. Its mission was to terrorize freed slaves and "ni**er-loving" (their words) Republicans who sympathized with them.

4. n the 1950s, President Eisenhower, a Republican, integrated the US military and promoted civil rights for minorities. Eisenhower pushed through the Civil Rights Act of 1957. One of Eisenhower's primary political opponents on civil rights prior to 1957 was none other than Lyndon Johnson, then the Democratic Senate Majority Leader. LBJ had voted the straight segregationist line until he changed his position and supported the 1957 Act.

5. The historic Civil Rights Act of 1964 was supported by a higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats in both houses of Congress. In the House, 80 percent of the Republicans and 63 percent of the Democrats voted in favor. In the Senate, 82 percent of the Republicans and 69 percent of the Democrats voted for it.

6. Contrary to popular misconception, the parties never "switched" on racism. The Democrats just switched from overt racism to a subversive strategy of getting blacks as dependent as possible on government to secure their votes. At the same time, they began a cynical smear campaign to label anyone who opposes their devious strategy as greedy racists.


A Short History of Democrats, Republicans, and Racism


I have told this story before and it is true as true can be. I had a high position with the Democratic party in the early 70's on a state level. I left the party when I realized what they were doing to the blacks, and how they were being used.

I am very sensitive to this because I lived it and am just sick of hearing all this stuff from people who do not know what they are talking about, and sadly do not even care that they do not know.

Point is, get off your high horse. Alinsky taught you well. Attack personally and do not stop.

I have a couple of minor quibbles with your post, which I agree with in the main.

1. Your statement that the Republican party was created to end slavery is a bit overblown. In fact, in a letter to newspaperman Horace Greeley, President Lincoln stated that his sole purpose was to maintain the Union and that if that could be done without freeing any slaves, he was willing to do that. He also felt that after the slaves were freed they should be deported to some other country. He did not envision a racially integrated nation.

2. You neglected to mention that the 14th Amendment, granting citizenship to former slaves, passed with 94% Republican support and 0% (Zero) Democrat support.

3. When the Klan was organized, Democrat and former Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest became Grand Wizard, claiming to be the Klan's national leader. The Klan murdered not only freed slaves but also Republicans in the South.

4. The order to racially integrate the military was made by President Truman, not President Eisenhower. It was done on July 26, 1948, by Executive Order 9981. What Eisenhower did do was use the 101st Airborne to enforce court orders to integrate Arkansas public schools.

5. The historic Civil Rights Act of 1964 would not have passed had it not been for manipulation of the rules in the Senate by Republican Leader Mike Mansfield who rushed the bill to the floor for a vote. When President Johnson signed the bill into law he gave the first Ceremonial Pen to Mansfield. He later explained to his daughter Lynda that he did this because the bill would not have passed without the Republicans. She mentioned it in a speech at the LBJ ranch a few years ago.

6. The ludicrous claim that the parties have "switched" on racism is claimed by Democrats who are ashamed of their party's record. They claim that the early Republicans were "liberal" and now the Democrats are "liberal" so there must have been a switch. Perhaps they should research the term "Dixiecrats."

I share the frustration of "Guest" regarding the general ignorance of our history throughout the country.

Can you tell us the demographic makeup of the Republican party? What percentage of the African American vote did Romney receive and what percentage of the woman vote did Romney receive? What percentage of the Republican party are minorities?

Until the voters perceive the Republicans as a party of inclusion , they are not going to have another President.

Originally Posted by Guest

Can you tell us the demographic makeup of the Republican party? What percentage of the African American vote did Romney receive and what percentage of the woman vote did Romney receive? What percentage of the Republican party are minorities?

Until the voters perceive the Republicans as a party of inclusion , they are not going to have another President.

That is one opinion!

Before you talk about abusing bankruptcy laws, you should go back and examine what happened under the current administration with the GM bankruptcy. Calling people names again, very sad.

Originally Posted by Guest

You call using other people's money and abusing bankruptcy law, leaving them holding the bag as "doing it by himself without handouts"? Role model for younger people......seriously? Puleeeeez get all your right wing loonies to nominate that pompous sleaze bag blow hard, assuring a Democrat landslide in the general.

Personal Best Regards:

Putin is very happy with President Obama. I have a strong feeling that Putin would not be happy at all having Trump for our president.

We all know that blacks vote for democrats, often to their own detriment. I don't see this changing.

Originally Posted by Guest

Can you tell us the demographic makeup of the Republican party? What percentage of the African American vote did Romney receive and what percentage of the woman vote did Romney receive? What percentage of the Republican party are minorities?

Until the voters perceive the Republicans as a party of inclusion , they are not going to have another President.