Originally Posted by Guest

iNCREDIBLE.

4th of July weekend starting with terror threats
Negotiations with Iran on going
ISIS continues to kill at will
Greece is broke

And the only thing on cable news is DONALD TRUMP, and one comment on immigration, yet to be proven untrue by the way.

He must be getting inside someones head because he is not going to get the nomination yet that is all we hear about.

Incredible, can't wait to discuss Hillary Clinton and..

Her money
Her character
Her emails
Her record as Secy of State

I'm so old I remember when Hilary was too old and too rich to be president. Well, Donald Trump is two years older than Hilary, and Trump's nine billion dollar wealth could buy and sell the Clintons about 100 times over.

Trump is so rich he makes the Clintons look like paupers, and he is in first place in many of the recent polls for the republican nomination for president of the United States. Go figure.

Originally Posted by Guest

I'm so old I remember when Hilary was too old and too rich to be president. Well, Donald Trump is two years older than Hilary, and Trump's nine billion dollar wealth could buy and sell the Clintons about 100 times over.

Trump is so rich he makes the Clintons look like paupers, and he is in first place in many of the recent polls for the republican nomination for president of the United States. Go figure.

Heres the deal.......Trump has no shot at the nomination; he and everyone knows that.

Hillary Clinton will be the nominee.

Trump brags about being rich.

Hillary Clinton does not, and in fact speaks about the disparity but she is also rich thus not sure how she handles that.

Trump is in first place only because of all the fuss

Hillary is in first place because she is the entitled one.

Trump has all his baggage out there for ridicule and much of it is well deserved.

Hillary tries to hide it and thus will make for an interesting campaign which is well down the road.

Trump, at least it appears, has no skeletons in his closet\

Hillary has a closet FULL of skeletons.

Yet Trump gets all the headlines right now. He has awakened and is saying things that a lot of americans want to say, true or not....he is beginning conversations, and they are conversations that need to be had.

This last fiasco on immigration. Frankly, he is not far off if you look at our own government stats. He is not talking as dumb as people make it sound.

Frankly he will be out sooner than later, but on the surface at least we do not need to pull from this candidate all the secrets...we do not need to dig to find out where we KNOW she has buried things.

So when you say GO FIGURE. GO FIGURE how a woman who cheated knowingly with her email and the system even behind the Presidents back. IF not he was lying as well, but she did cheat and even the WH said that.

GO FIGURE how she lied about what was in those emails.

GO FIGURE how she will be the nominee with an absolute horrid record as Secy of State...reset in Russia (recall how she joined the President in mocking Romney on Russia and he was 100% correct)...or Libya where she led the overthrow of the government and Libya is now becoming the poster child for terrorist states once again, or Yemen which was touted as her success story.

GO FIGURE how Bernie Sanders pushes her more left and the result is her saying how the other party is moving far right

Yeah GO FIGURE is a good one but Trump will not be a nominee and Clinton will.

Now this is the biggest GO FIGURE for me....she has said that all her emails on that server were personal to her hubby, who has said he does not use email but the big GO FIGURE is...how can the WH declare executive privilege on private personal emails ?

Yeah Trump has no shot but he sure is getting the attention of MOVE ON for example....must be something there, hey ?

Originally Posted by Guest

I'm so old I remember when Hilary was too old and too rich to be president. Well, Donald Trump is two years older than Hilary, and Trump's nine billion dollar wealth could buy and sell the Clintons about 100 times over.

Trump is so rich he makes the Clintons look like paupers, and he is in first place in many of the recent polls for the republican nomination for president of the United States. Go figure.

Why then are you so concerned about Trump ? Always about Trump...must be some concern.

Originally Posted by Guest

I'm so old I remember when Hilary was too old and too rich to be president. Well, Donald Trump is two years older than Hilary, and Trump's nine billion dollar wealth could buy and sell the Clintons about 100 times over.

Trump is so rich he makes the Clintons look like paupers, and he is in first place in many of the recent polls for the republican nomination for president of the United States. Go figure.

One thing you might want to go figure is how did each one make their money? From the sweat off their own back or off the backs of the people? That means a lot more to me than how much each has accumulated.

Originally Posted by Guest

I do not know where I read this and cannot enclose in quotes, but the thought is, to me, spot on, recently.

This involves all the name calling and labeling that takes place on here and other places...

While claiming to embrace individuality, the central idea of liberalism is actually groupthink. If you disagree, you are a fool and in need to be re educated or deserving of ridicule. Opposition should not be listened to and discussed in an open forum, but mocked. In other words, liberalism is what it claims to dislike: Forced conformity.

My apologies to the author, but as I read on here, this becomes so clear.

These repeated posts by the conservative wing deploring the name calling and labeling are really very amusing. Especially when I often see anyone who disagrees with the conservative playbook labeled a libtard, one of our liberal children, or one of many other demeaning terms.

Originally Posted by Guest

These repeated posts by the conservative wing deploring the name calling and labeling are really very amusing. Especially when I often see anyone who disagrees with the conservative playbook labeled a libtard, one of our liberal children, or one of many other demeaning terms.

If someone uses a term like that to you on a post, then you should call them on it.

Most of the "slams" concerning liberalism, maybe all of them, are responses to being called a name ironically.

To my knowledge, I know of NO "conservative playbook" at all.

If you know of this "playbook" let us hear it.

My opinion, and this is simply my opinion, liberalism has become nothing more than a platform for social activists. If you disagree, I would love to hear why you disagree and that would make a great conversation. And be clear, I am not anti activism, but not the arrogant "in your face" type we have seen recently.

I will tell you that normally on this forum, it is at this point when a name is thrown. I, personally, have never called anyone a name. I certainly will get in your face about activism and disguising it as some political movement and am open to discuss that in total, but normally at this point, I am referred to as one of these...

and old white curmudgeon
a white sheet award winner
a racist
a bigot
OR

told to crawl back in my hole and conversation ends, which actually always make the point I allude to.

Originally Posted by Guest

If someone uses a term like that to you on a post, then you should call them on it.

Most of the "slams" concerning liberalism, maybe all of them, are responses to being called a name ironically.

To my knowledge, I know of NO "conservative playbook" at all.

If you know of this "playbook" let us hear it.

My opinion, and this is simply my opinion, liberalism has become nothing more than a platform for social activists. If you disagree, I would love to hear why you disagree and that would make a great conversation. And be clear, I am not anti activism, but not the arrogant "in your face" type we have seen recently.

I will tell you that normally on this forum, it is at this point when a name is thrown. I, personally, have never called anyone a name. I certainly will get in your face about activism and disguising it as some political movement and am open to discuss that in total, but normally at this point, I am referred to as one of these...

and old white curmudgeon
a white sheet award winner
a racist
a bigot
OR

told to crawl back in my hole and conversation ends, which actually always make the point I allude to.

Again, if a liberal thinker makes a point with no name calling and in return SIMPLY BECAUSE YOUR VIEW IS DIFFERENT, you are called a name, make a big deal of it and do it without resorting to calling names yourself.

Originally Posted by Guest

If someone uses a term like that to you on a post, then you should call them on it.

To what end? If they're stooping to name calling, I doubt my chastising them will change anything.

Most of the "slams" concerning liberalism, maybe all of them, are responses to being called a name ironically.

There is plenty of unprovoked name calling by both sides. Definitely not limited to the liberals. There was an entire thread that indicated that all liberals were literally insane.

To my knowledge, I know of NO "conservative playbook" at all.

If you know of this "playbook" let us hear it.

That was my little reference to a few threads from the recent past when any time a liberal idea was presented it was derided as being "straight from the liberal playbook". As if a person couldn't have a sincerely held belief if it hadn't been instilled by some shadowy socialist screed.
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Originally Posted by Guest

That was my little reference to a few threads from the recent past when any time a liberal idea was presented it was derided as being "straight from the liberal playbook". As if a person couldn't have a sincerely held belief if it hadn't been instilled by some shadowy socialist screed.
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You make a valid point. Politicians on both sides have studied Alinsky for sure.

In my opinion, again, it is the combination of activist type politics with an "in your face" mentality that brings this to the fore.

I DO however wait until someday, hopefully while i am alive, Ms Clinton's thesis is made public. It always was surprising that a college thesis would be made private.

I don't know if it a playbook, but is certainly the road the Republicans have taken. Negative ads work. They have made Karl Rove a lot of money. Obstructions works. McConnell is king of the filibuster. The Tea party has pushed the Republicans so far to the right, that they are off the grid. Whether you want to hear this or not, it has a lot to do with the color of the presidents skin, and his lack of governing experience before he was elected. Which no one can dispute.

How about playing on a level field. How many congressional hearing have there been on Benghezi (sp - I have a mental block about Benwhatever I don't want to hear or see it anymore). How many hearing were there on the Iraq war? Benwhatever isn't about the families of the four dead Americans any more. It is a political move to bring Hillary down. Does anyone believe that the current hearings won't last until late 2016?

The first rule in politics is say anything or do anything to get elected. Then run for reelection on your record. The Republican 16 have to cater to the far right in the primaries, because the far right votes in primaries. The winner will float back to the middle just like Romney. Nothing new there. It is the path conservative hopefuls have to take.

Hillary, on the other hand, needs the Clinton name to win. Her future political ambitions date back to middle 90's. Why else would a woman suffer the public humiliation she received due to Bill's idea of a good coffee break? were morals have to be rock bottom.

Trump is nothing but a bunch of hot air. His comments concerning Hispanics are down right wrong, and offensive. Fox News is trying to justify his comments by the recent murder in Frisco white woman killed by a illegal Hispanic. So, you paint all Hispanics with the same brush. Shouldn't you then paint all Republicans with the same brush, and all agree with Trump said? I know this doesn't apply, but apply that logic Hitler. A few Jews were greedy, and cause the depression. So, all Jews must be exterminated. He tried to follow through on his sick views. Are we going to do the same, and kick out all illegal Hispanics for the actions of a few? Trump assumes some Hispanic are good. That is right probably about 99%.