Originally Posted by Sally Jo

Billie, You are so right. He use to be called an Uncle Tom. Now he's the best thing since sliced bread.

will i guess if you listen to Pat Buchanan he might still be. after listening to Pat's remarks on MSNBC the other day, Powell is supporting Obama due to race. so alot of different opionions.

Turn and bite fast...

regarding turning on their own were intended for Collin Powell!!!!

BTK

No, that comment was meant for all of you Repubs that were swooning over him just a short time ago. I'm a Dem and I've always liked and respected Colin Powell. Like I said previously, I respected him even more when he resigned from the Bush Kingdom.

Originally Posted by GMONEY

will i guess if you listen to Pat Buchanan he might still be. after listening to Pat's remarks on MSNBC the other day, Powell is supporting Obama due to race. so alot of different opionions.

Turn and bite fast...

Sorry, but I think that's bull. Can't we ever rise above this?

Originally Posted by chelsea24

Sorry, but I think that's bull. Can't we ever rise above this?

i agree, but even the other guest on the show told Pat he was above that standard. I couldnt believe he went there.

Originally Posted by chelsea24

I'm very happy that Colin Powell endorsed Senator Obama. He is a great military leader and a pragmatist. After listening to him on Meet the Press and his reasons for doing so, it's apparent he took his time and that this was a tough decision for him.

He stated all of the reasons that brought me to my choice. McCain's erratic behavior on the Economy, Palin's inadequacy to step in as President, the issue of Ayers being pounded (and still is) when it proved to be completely inconsequential, the negative tone and narrowing of the Republican party. But most importantly, in my opinion, the fact that Senator Obama can inspire and, hopefully, with diplomacy lift our country to a more stable and respected platform in this global community. I liked that Powell said something like "don't underestimate his rhetoric..." This is what brings people together.

And on that note, I'd like to say "don't underestimate Powell's endorsement." This Bush/McCain idea of "not talking to our enemies" is completely out of touch with today's world. I completely agree with Colin Powell in that Senator Obama is a highly intelligent, uniquely equipped, strong transitional leader for our next generation.

I for one don't care WHO endorses ANY of the candidates. I'll make up my own mind as to who will best represent my core values.

As for "inspire", "stable", "respected", "rhetoric", as qualifiers for Sen. Obama"s talents, Adholf Hitler presented all those characteristics to the German People before leading Germany into WW11. Core values,not words will make the best leader.

Give me a break! Hitler??? Hear that sound?.......it's any remaining shred of credibility leaving the room.

A modicum of common sense would tell one that all the evils of the world cannot be blamed on one party, as is constantly and repeatedly indicated in some of the threads.

The ability to think and rationalize independently has inherently more value than blind allegiance to the rhetoric of any party. Making exaggerated and inflamatory comparisons serves only the ego of those that make them. Intellect and effort would be much better served with honest, open efforts to learn all facets of the issues and be open to real solutions, which may not always "tow the party line".

Originally Posted by serenityseeker

Give me a break! Hitler??? Hear that sound?.......it's any remaining shred of credibility leaving the room.

A modicum of common sense would tell one that all the evils of the world cannot be blamed on one party, as is constantly and repeatedly indicated in some of the threads.

The ability to think and rationalize independently has inherently more value than blind allegiance to the rhetoric of any party. Making exaggerated and inflamatory comparisons serves only the ego of those that make them. Intellect and effort would be much better served with honest, open efforts to learn all facets of the issues and be open to real solutions, which may not always "tow the party line".

Originally Posted by serenityseeker

Give me a break! Hitler??? Hear that sound?.......it's any remaining shred of credibility leaving the room.

A modicum of common sense would tell one that all the evils of the world cannot be blamed on one party, as is constantly and repeatedly indicated in some of the threads.

The ability to think and rationalize independently has inherently more value than blind allegiance to the rhetoric of any party. Making exaggerated and inflamatory comparisons serves only the ego of those that make them. Intellect and effort would be much better served with honest, open efforts to learn all facets of the issues and be open to real solutions, which may not always "tow the party line".

AH! Again you prove my point Serenity. To elicit a response to a idea that does not connect the dots. Like some saying on these posts that McCain is Bush, like he was some evil reincarnation of all that is wrong with our country.

I'm just sorry that it is you that proves the point and not the ones that always that make the McCain/Bush connection It would be nice to point their
exaggrated comparisons.

Surely you don't think anyone, least of all me is falling for that.

The comment, and several of your others don't appear to have the grand (or even subtle) intentions of eliciting open dialouge on much of anything that disagrees with your party line. With all due respect don't drag me into that mirage nor insult me by pandering after such obviously inflamatory comments.

I am interested in the exchange of information and knowledge that many here try to participate in...not the hateful exchanges I see at times.

No one (or party) is right all the time, and as with most things in life, the truth is usually somewhere in the middle...that is just how it works...recognizing that and working within in it is the challenge.

Hitler???????????????

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Hitler???????????????

Name calling again??? Are you forgetting how he served this country? Oh, maybe you did because he doesn't remind us every two minutes the way McCain does. hmmmm

Originally Posted by serenityseeker

Surely you don't think anyone, least of all me is falling for that.

The comment, and several of your others don't appear to have the grand (or even subtle) intentions of eliciting open dialouge on much of anything that disagrees with your party line. With all due respect don't drag me into that mirage nor insult me by pandering after such obviously inflamatory comments.

I am interested in the exchange of information and knowledge that many here try to participate in...not the hateful exchanges I see at times.

No one (or party) is right all the time, and as with most things in life, the truth is usually somewhere in the middle...that is just how it works...recognizing that and working within in it is the challenge.

I guess that you don't recognize the devils advocate role that I enjoy. It is not party line that I represent either. My beliefs are conservative for sure, but my party, as you call it, does not fully represent my viewpoints either.

As far as posts go, mine are not as acerbic in tone as this one that you sent me and more considerate in how I answer others posts, so as to not be nasty towards them.

Some truths are to be self evident. Recognizing that is impossible for some.

obviously the definition for acerbic is rather flexible for some..."Hitler" ???...sheesh

In common parlance, a devil's advocate is someone who takes a position, sometimes one he or she disagrees with, for the sake of argument. Uh...guess I must of missed that somewhere in some post.

Taking a simple survey of the posts makes self evident truths abundently clear with regard to tone and intention of posts, nature of replies, character assasination of candidates, and twisting of facts.

Some truths are self evident indeed.