Originally Posted by Guest

The notes were taken during an official meeting with the POTUS. They were written in his official capacity as Director of The FBI and as such are the property of the US government.

THIS IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU ?????

THIS IS WHAT YOU CARE ABOUT ?????

You folks just say go to hell to america. You adore a man who has spent his life lying and being deceitful and has yet to do anything for his country. YOU adore a man who accuses ex FBI director of perjury.....the ex president of wiretapping both with zero substance. YOU adore a man who does not even care that we were attacked by the Russians cyberly to interfere with our institutions.

Well, as most will agree....you support and abet a liar and cheat, then YOU are a liar and cheat

Good luck with that argument. This is like saying a private in the US Army's love letters to his girl friend are government property. Too funny.......

Originally Posted by Lottoguy

Good luck with that argument. This is like saying a private in the US Army's love letters to his girl friend are government property. Too funny.......

You have no clue. None

Originally Posted by Guest

This country needs somebody who will be totally honest with the American public. Sure, the Republicans won't like this idea. Why? Because if he ran against Trump it would be a landslide in Comey's favor.
Comey has always taken the moral high ground. He has ****ed off the Democrats and the Republicans. The perfect candidate this country could use right now.

I have read and re-read your post a number of times with one purpose in mind and that was to try and understand why any ethical and patriotic American would make a case for Comey when by his own admission the political pressures of his leadership position caused him such cognitive dissonance that he acted irrationally and thus failed in the face of discharging his duties and responsibilities.

If you do decide to respond to my post and explain your thinking please do not reference Trump. If you want to discuss Trump then let's begin a new thread.

Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by Guest

Coming from one of the biggest trolls here...that is hilarious!

Your obsessive and bile-induced spewings, constantly personally attacking posters who actually make cogent comments and provide links...clearly exhibits an insecure Trump Cultist.

So thanks for the chuckles.



Deepest Sincere Wishes: ;wave:

I DIDN'T write what you quoted. Grace or Graceless.

Originally Posted by Guest

Gotta love it when someone that does not contribute to the forum, by starting legitimate discussions with news links, judges others on here that show their opinions. He sounds more like CNM every day, but I won't respond to him because then he will say, "see, you proved my point" (just like CNM) which in reality is NO POINT. Liberal trolls come on here disparaging the president and then suggest that we are not patriotic when we support him because he is not their ideal of what a good socialist president should be. My advice to them, is for their own sanity go away. Perhaps join a quilting club or play shuffle board for a real challenge, but just go away. If those type of persons wish to have a civil conversation, then I suggest they don't act like their opinion is fact. And if they wish to discuss the Middle East or Health Care, then start a thread with that subject. Otherwise, quit yer bit*hin' and log out. And if you emotional lefties are so sensitive about referencing the last 8 years, why do you reference Bush's admin. which is prior to the last 8 years? In short, if you don't like being reminded that you lost the election and have to ride the next four years out, regardless of how hard you work to impeach the president, remember.........it ain't gonna happen with a Republican majority. SO either cinch up your knickers and wipe your tears or take my advice and find another hobby. Because no matter how much you stomp your feet, TRUMP IS YOUR PRESIDENT and you have to accept that. Either way, I don't care.

I didn't write this. Grace Gantner. Someone else did but not me. It does sound a bit like me.

Originally Posted by Graceless

I DIDN'T write what you quoted. Grace or Graceless.

Originally Posted by Graceless

I didn't write this. Grace Gantner. Someone else did but not me. It does sound a bit like me.

While I can no longer see who actually wrote it, it's very probable that in my haste...I inadvertently attributed it to you.

My apology- ColdNoMore.





Deepest Sincere Wishes:

Originally Posted by Guest

I didn't write this. Grace Gantner. Someone else did but not me. It does sound a bit like me.

Well somebody needs to have a little more coffee this morning...

(unt did not mention GG in this thread (the same adjectives are often used for numerous people on here, everyone is a troll and racist that spews bile), and MDLNB wrote what the (unt quoted.

Comey would make a great President.

An honorable, honest man who has given a life of service to this country.

Originally Posted by Guest

Comey would make a great President.

An honorable, honest man who has given a life of service to this country.

He would have to deal with all the less the honorable men and women who abound in the Beltway. There are some good men and women in political office but these are probably few and far between because of how things are run in Washington where the party seems to be everything and not the constituents back home. Donald John Trump had initially stood for the constituents at home but quickly became just another Republican player for the most part. Comey is not that. He stands up for the US Constitution as well as the FBI members. Obama got swallowed by the same whale of politics as usual especially when he joined forces with the long time political manipulator Joe Biden. Hillary Clinton kind of the same old Beltway politics. Party first.

Originally Posted by Guest

Good luck with that argument. This is like saying a private in the US Army's love letters to his girl friend are government property. Too funny.......

First of all, the Director of the FBI is a bit higher than a private in the army.

Secondly, a private, writing letters on his own time to a girlfriend is just slightly different than a high-level government appointee taking notes at a meeting to which he was summoned by his boss.

And if you recall, letters home were often edited by the US Military during wars giving me the impression that those letters might be considered the property of the US government.

Originally Posted by Guest

First of all, the Director of the FBI is a bit higher than a private in the army.

Secondly, a private, writing letters on his own time to a girlfriend is just slightly different than a high-level government appointee taking notes at a meeting to which he was summoned by his boss.

And if you recall, letters home were often edited by the US Military during wars giving me the impression that those letters might be considered the property of the US government.

You have a meeting with one of this biggest liars on the planet and you do not document what this person asks as well as possible. Sounds like someone needs a brain.

We will see if Donald John Trump actually has any tape recordings of the Comey-Trump meetings. Probably just another lie. And Donald John Trump kind of is the Federal Government right now as of 6-12-2017. Why hand anything over to that con man?

Originally Posted by Guest

He would have to deal with all the less the honorable men and women who abound in the Beltway. There are some good men and women in political office but these are probably few and far between because of how things are run in Washington where the party seems to be everything and not the constituents back home. Donald John Trump had initially stood for the constituents at home but quickly became just another Republican player for the most part. Comey is not that. He stands up for the US Constitution as well as the FBI members. Obama got swallowed by the same whale of politics as usual especially when he joined forces with the long time political manipulator Joe Biden. Hillary Clinton kind of the same old Beltway politics. Party first.

No...sadly there are just a few that APPEAR to be honest.

The party IS everything. It's what got them elected. It's where the orders come from. If you don't play ball...you're out...you won't get elected without your party support.

Because the president is just a talking head. The real decisions are made by the "board", those who really call the shots...those who "own" both sides...Ds and Rs.

Those "whales" put Obama there. Hillary was passed over to get Obama into the slot. She was passed over again for Trump. SOMEONE with clout doesn't want Hillary to be president...they probably don't trust her.

Originally Posted by Guest

You have a meeting with one of this biggest liars on the planet and you do not document what this person asks as well as possible. Sounds like someone needs a brain.

We will see if Donald John Trump actually has any tape recordings of the Comey-Trump meetings. Probably just another lie. And Donald John Trump kind of is the Federal Government right now as of 6-12-2017. Why hand anything over to that con man?

Not specifically in this case...but in other meetings where classified is discussed...isn't recording illegal? That leaves an unsecured, unlabeled, transcript containing classified material. As bad as Hillary and her server. They BOTH know it's unacceptable.

Originally Posted by Guest

No...sadly there are just a few that APPEAR to be honest.

The party IS everything. It's what got them elected. It's where the orders come from. If you don't play ball...you're out...you won't get elected without your party support.

Because the president is just a talking head. The real decisions are made by the "board", those who really call the shots...those who "own" both sides...Ds and Rs.

Those "whales" put Obama there. Hillary was passed over to get Obama into the slot. She was passed over again for Trump. SOMEONE with clout doesn't want Hillary to be president...they probably don't trust her.





Not specifically in this case...but in other meetings where classified is discussed...isn't recording illegal? That leaves an unsecured, unlabeled, transcript containing classified material. As bad as Hillary and her server. They BOTH know it's unacceptable.

You may have a good point.

Originally Posted by Guest

First of all, the Director of the FBI is a bit higher than a private in the army.

Secondly, a private, writing letters on his own time to a girlfriend is just slightly different than a high-level government appointee taking notes at a meeting to which he was summoned by his boss.

And if you recall, letters home were often edited by the US Military during wars giving me the impression that those letters might be considered the property of the US government.

Lets be clear. YOU know and everybody knows that Comey broke NO laws, did not come close to breaking any laws, did not lie and did not come close to lying.

He is a public servant who frankly is above reproach.

The FAKE NEWS campaign...the effort to tear down a REAL AMERICAN PATRIOT by the lovers of Trump is disgusting, at best, but not surprising at all.

The link and story below is about how you people work. I earlier posted a story in todays NY Times showing how the pro Trumpers organize and get out their ANTI TRUTH campaigns.

They care not a whit who they hurt in the process. The USA if far down their list.

Of course I expect the usual trolls to continue with the phony, and frankly ignorant posts, ALL, AND ALWAYS unsubstantiated in any way. So Rubicon, etc., you can begin or better said continue your ANTI USA posts tearing down, again with no substantiation ever our the American media, the entire justice system, the lies about the FBI, the intelligence community, the refusal to accept the President has done more damage to our international reputation that can be imagined are all expected and actually are part of the daily fare on here where everything good about America is demeaned, and where lying is not only endorsed but embraced.

"Instead of seeing Trump for who he is, his supporters create an imaginary figure who does no wrong."

"This is the place where Trump's supporters exist: rather than seeing the president for who he clearly is, they construct an entirely different Trump in the negative space around him. If Comey accuses the president of obstructing an FBI investigation, they will say, "but look at all the laws Comey didn't charge Trump with breaking!" If Comey says Trump lied, they'll say "according to Comey's own admission, here's an instance where Trump told the truth!"

Given that the Trump we know often behaves indefensibly, his supporters simply build a more tolerable version of Trump, the one they see in the blank spaces around him. They view Trump as free-form jazz: his strength is in the things he doesn't say. Even if he actually says them.

Yet the first step in creating a new, more palatable Trump is never admitting he said things he actually said. Prior to the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003, Trump expressed support for the operation; in presidential debate after presidential debate in 2016, he lied, claiming he never had supported the war. Trump knew that if he just kept saying it, his supporters would somehow wish it true. Score one for Imaginary Trump.

For #AlwaysTrumpers, it is also important to concoct fictions about Trump and never back down from them. Trump supporters are required to pretend, for instance, that the president is a tough-as-nails, no-nonsense negotiator who will only get us the best deals – yet the briefest of trips through his Twitter timeline reveals a thin-skinned moral adolescent obsessed with settling scores and being well-liked.

The most common trick in defending imaginary Trump, however, is the practice of "whataboutism" — or complaining about the outrage over Trump's actions when there was a lack of concern over a previous president's similar actions.

Trump shared classified information with Russia during an impromptu conversation? What about the time Barack Obama shared information with Cuba?

Trump doesn't know why the Civil War was fought? What about the time when President Obama said there were 57 states?

On and on it goes, poisoning the reputation of Republicans that would normally recognize that pointing to a past event doesn't excuse a current one. But for those unwilling to defend the indefensible, they cling to such misdirection even if the comparison between the two events is specious.

Trump is, as our parents all once warned us, the "eat your meatloaf because there are starving kids in China" president – he may be awful, but we should accept our fate because the alternative would leave us starving in the streets. (Like the Chinese kids who probably all have jobs making Trump's ties.)

Focusing only on select parts of Comey's testimony allows Trump's backers to fill in the empty space with a fiction more favorable to the president. However, they would be better off focusing on the president that actually stands before them rather than the one they wish they had."

Trump supporters create an imaginary Trump who does no wrong.