Originally Posted by rubicon

There is not one Republican candidate that doesn't beat Obama hands down. So come November 6th my check mark goes along side the Republican candidate.

Well, you're close. There is not one Republican candidate that does beat Obama.

Obama - 48.1, Romney - 44.3
Obama - 49.7, Sanitarium - 42.4
Obama - 51.0, Gingrich - 38.0
Obama - 47.6, Paul - 40.2


RealClearPolitics - President Obama vs. Republican Candidates

Good one, Coralway. It is just fun to see these uber-conservatives sputter when someone brings facts to the table.

Originally Posted by ladydoc

I am horrified at the thought that people are voting on the basis of religion. That is very scary...we do NOT need a theocracy....I think the evangelicals are scared of a Morman in the white house. Just my opinion......

People vote their values......don't they? If your values are the values you keep close to your heart because of your religious faith, of course you're going to vote those values.......as close as you can.

If your values are the hedonistic values, you going to vote for those closest to those values.

I find it scary that people have been so brainwashed that they vote for an America that "will take care of them", instead of voting for the preservation of a country in which they're free to provide for themselves and live with self determination. That's the world of Obama, and that's the vote that is the most frightening to any true thinking free American.

Chances are that you have or will have drawn out much more money in benefits than what you paid into Social Security. I was talking with a friend a few nights ago and he said his mother (age 94) has been getting Social Security since 1975 (34 years) at the rate of $1500 per month. That comes out to $666,000. Do you think that she contributed that much money into the system? It is a government benefit program. Would she have been happy at only being able to draw out what she and her employer had contributed? That would have run out many, many years ago.

Adjusting for the COLA's over the years, this lady would still have received well over $550,000 which is lots more than she and her employer contributed over the years. If not for the government, she would have run out of money being mailed to her every month many years ago.

This is a government entitlement that I am sure she is glad to receive.

Originally Posted by coralway

Well, you're close. There is not one Republican candidate that does beat Obama.

Obama - 48.1, Romney - 44.3
Obama - 49.7, Sanitarium - 42.4
Obama - 51.0, Gingrich - 38.0
Obama - 47.6, Paul - 40.2


RealClearPolitics - President Obama vs. Republican Candidates

Do you ever, EVER comment on issues, or is your sense of this that your job is to just jump in and make fun of someone or talk about the Bush administration ?

I say that because basically that is about all your posts are

Originally Posted by buggyone

Good one, Coralway. It is just fun to see these uber-conservatives sputter when someone brings facts to the table.

This is the EPITOME of the pot calling the kettle black. I would love to discuss issues and facts with your or CORALWAY, but neither of you find time in your schedule..just the little one liners and most of those do not even imply fact.

But that is your definition of political discussion I suppose

Originally Posted by Bucco

Do you ever, EVER comment on issues, or is your sense of this that your job is to just jump in and make fun of someone or talk about the Bush administration ?

I say that because basically that is about all your posts are

It's OK if coralway remains at the leftist sites and basks in their polls. I hope all the libs only listen and watch liberal media.

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To defeat President Obama, first you have to have a candidate. Apparently that's not going to happen until the republican convention at the end of Aug. After last night's debacle for Gov Romney and no one willing to exit the race, it's going to be a long, hot summer. See you in Tampa.

Originally Posted by buggyone

Adjusting for the COLA's over the years, this lady would still have received well over $550,000 which is lots more than she and her employer contributed over the years. If not for the government, she would have run out of money being mailed to her every month many years ago.

This is a government entitlement that I am sure she is glad to receive.

Can I ask how you got those numbers?

I just went to the government's CPI calculator - which is used as the basis for COLA increases. I plugged in $1500 for 2012 and calculated what that was worth in 1974 - and I got $326.25.

Spot-checking, that means she got in some sample years:

2011 - $18,000 (12 x 1500)
2000 - $13,800 (12 x 1150)
1990 - $10,450 (12 x 871.57)
1980 - $6,600 (12 x $550)
1975 - $4,305 (12 x 358.76)

Now, without calculating the raises in between those years, I cam up with a total of just under $155K - but that has the error of, for example, keeping the $13,800 value for the 10 years from 2001-2010

Originally Posted by djplong

Can I ask how you got those numbers?

I just went to the government's CPI calculator - which is used as the basis for COLA increases. I plugged in $1500 for 2012 and calculated what that was worth in 1974 - and I got $326.25.

Spot-checking, that means she got in some sample years:

2011 - $18,000 (12 x 1500)
2000 - $13,800 (12 x 1150)
1990 - $10,450 (12 x 871.57)
1980 - $6,600 (12 x $550)
1975 - $4,305 (12 x 358.76)

Now, without calculating the raises in between those years, I cam up with a total of just under $155K - but that has the error of, for example, keeping the $13,800 value for the 10 years from 2001-2010

What the heck are you talking about? Has Cliff Clavin been transported to this site? It sure sounds like him. It is not necessary to try and get the last word in on a conversation.

Originally Posted by buggyone

What the heck are you talking about? Has Cliff Clavin been transported to this site? It sure sounds like him. It is not necessary to try and get the last word in on a conversation.

But it is important to understand that folks on here are talking truth and not making things up or what is the sense.

Good question actually...where did you get your numbers ?

Originally Posted by Bucco

Do you ever, EVER comment on issues, or is your sense of this that your job is to just jump in and make fun of someone or talk about the Bush administration ?

I say that because basically that is about all your posts are

What are you talking about? I posted a link from RCP showing how Obama fares against the declared R candidates. Where did I mention Junior?

You don't like the link to RCP? Or maybe you don't believe it? I couldn't care less whether you believe it or not.

A better question is do you even read the postings you criticize? The responses you come up with make no sense whatsoever.

Originally Posted by coralway

What are you talking about? I posted a link from RCP showing how Obama fares against the declared R candidates. Where did I mention Junior?

You don't like the link to RCP? Or maybe you don't believe it? I couldn't care less whether you believe it or not.

A better question is do you even read the postings you criticize? The responses you come up with make no sense whatsoever.

oh I read EVERY posting which I know you dont....and yours are very easy to read.....always same thought...a small wise crack OR reciting of polls. I assume you subcribe to or continually watch certain programming but that is ok.....BUT look in the mirror...THAT IS ALL YOU DO.

Would love to have you actually discuss an issue....immigration...bail out....your choice but an issue

PS...I only mentioned Bush because that is an ongoing and consistent item in your posts

I did try to discuss the auto bail out with you, Bucco, but all I got was you saying you did not believe what I said because it was the Democrats line - even though it was Bush Jr. that began the bail out of the auto industry.

That is not discussion.

Originally Posted by JimJoe

I think they voted against McCain. Conservatives held their nose and voted for him because of Palin. Conservatives still like her inspite of her support for McCain in his last Senate race. I think that was political payback and I do NOT like it.

Held my nose and did just what you are saying. Also put my X next to Santorum's name in the Ohio primary this month.
What happened to all those who told me that I ABSOLUTELY HAD TO VOTE FOR GOP INSTEAD OF INDEPENDENT.... OR ELSE OBAMA WOULD WIN!?!
That was their advice when it looked like Mitt Rino-Romney would be the candidate. Are they throwing their OWN advice out the window if Santorum is the GOP candidate?