Originally Posted by Guest

There are bank statements that show a connection between Hillary, Podesta and Russian banks and shows them getting large sums of money from the Russians. Is there a reason that they get a free pass, and Trump doesn't? Just wondering.

Only place I have ever seen that reference was on sites like Zero Hedge, Alex Jones Info Wars, etc. This is not Trumps version of fake news....this is TRUELY fake news, and both sites I mentioned have total DIRECT ties to Russia.

Last I read on Trumps tweets regarding this, on 2 fact checkers, he is combining at least SIX different pieces of left over propaganda from the election when he tweets.

You can add PJ Media to that list. All sites even referencing are extrememe radical right wing, many directly tied to Russia.

This link may help anyone interested. It has links within to help you understand the lack of credibility.

Fact-checking Donald Trump’s tweets about Hillary Clinton and Russia | PolitiFact

Originally Posted by Guest

Proof/legitimate links?

I have them downloaded as PDFs but I do not recall the "link" from where. It's been a few months.

I doubt you will believe me and even if I did produce something, I know you would decry it as FAKE NEWS or something to that effect. It really doesn't matter. No proof is required since no proof is ever forthcoming in your ridiculous remarks. Believe it or not, makes no difference. There has been no collusion evidence discovered in the Trump campaign.

Originally Posted by Guest

I have them downloaded as PDFs but I do not recall the "link" from where. It's been a few months.

I doubt you will believe me and even if I did produce something, I know you would decry it as FAKE NEWS or something to that effect. It really doesn't matter. No proof is required since no proof is ever forthcoming in your ridiculous remarks. Believe it or not, makes no difference. There has been no collusion evidence discovered in the Trump campaign.

All that exists...there are no more.

Fact-checking Donald Trump’s tweets about Hillary Clinton and Russia | PolitiFact

As far as Trump campaign, I assume you must have quite an "in" with our intelligence comm. as their investigation is not close to done.

In addition, I hear nothing specific being charged...EXCEPT BY THE PRESIDENT...otherwise Americans are patiently waiting. This is an investigation, not aimed at the President, but aides. No charges again, being made,....again...EXCEPT BY THE PRESIDENT and ALL of his have been debunked.

My bet in helping you with your links is Zero Hedge, or any of the Alex Jones sites. They have been linked directly to Russia and they report and Trump tweets it.

"Trump is downplaying reality here. There might not be a vast conspiracy in which Trump is letting Putin pull the strings in the White House to help the Trump Organization’s bottom line. But there is enough legitimate evidence that Russia meddled in the election to compel the FBI to investigate some of Trump’s associates’ ties to Russia, as well as bipartisan calls for a congressional inquiry.

Fueling the story is the fact that several Trump associates have specific Russia connections. Former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort has long ties to pro-Russian politicians in Ukraine, for example. And former national security adviser Michael Flynn — ousted for lying about the nature of his discussions with the Russian ambassador — has a relationship with Russian state media network RT.

Read our full report summarizing the slew of accusations about Trump’s alleged ties to Russia.

In his tweets, Trump seems to suggest that the Clintons and their associates were working on behalf of Russia’s interests. That’s hard to square with the intelligence community’s conclusion that Russia interfered in the election in order to harm Hillary Clinton and elect Trump instead."

Fact-checking Donald Trump’s tweets about Hillary Clinton and Russia | PolitiFact

Politifact is a liberal propaganda rag. Even snopes is more reliable and that is not saying much. But, it's too late for anyone to be concerned now. The election is over and there is nothing any of you can do to change that fact. Live with it or not, not my concern. Since I do not follow twitter or facebook, I do not concern myself with what Trump says in his spare time. I will watch what he does and if I do not approve then I will likely criticize him. It doesn't matter to me what party he is from. He used to be a Democrat and as far as I am concerned he is more in line with my father's OLD Democratic party than with the Republican party. I figure it this way, if they get rid of him, we will have a REAL conservative in the White House. So, it is a win-win situation either way I look at it. Liberals are just grasping at their last piece of thin ice in hopes of being eventually saved. Their party is drowning and they think that only by making someone else look worse than what they have to offer (socialism) they might survive. They would do better in the next election if they only knew how to shut up and wait. But, they insist on a last ditch, save their face effort. They might be able to get the support of new voters and minorities, but they are losing credibility with the working folks. The reason why Trump is doing so well is because he does not need the job and he does not intend on making politics his career. He is doing this for the country and to show Obama how bad his 8 years really turned out.
Liberals do not realize that their whining is so unappealing and not convincing at all. They are throwing a lot of money into producing a lot of lies, and have convinced only the young and uninformed. No one with any sense is going to take what they say for face value. Anyone that checks what they say, finds out that they are lying. Example: the lie they are passing about regarding "pre-existing" when it comes to the new health care bill.

Never mind, carry on.

Originally Posted by Guest

Politifact is a liberal propaganda rag. Even snopes is more reliable and that is not saying much. But, it's too late for anyone to be concerned now. The election is over and there is nothing any of you can do to change that fact. Live with it or not, not my concern. Since I do not follow twitter or facebook, I do not concern myself with what Trump says in his spare time. I will watch what he does and if I do not approve then I will likely criticize him. It doesn't matter to me what party he is from. He used to be a Democrat and as far as I am concerned he is more in line with my father's OLD Democratic party than with the Republican party. I figure it this way, if they get rid of him, we will have a REAL conservative in the White House. So, it is a win-win situation either way I look at it. Liberals are just grasping at their last piece of thin ice in hopes of being eventually saved. Their party is drowning and they think that only by making someone else look worse than what they have to offer (socialism) they might survive. They would do better in the next election if they only knew how to shut up and wait. But, they insist on a last ditch, save their face effort. They might be able to get the support of new voters and minorities, but they are losing credibility with the working folks. The reason why Trump is doing so well is because he does not need the job and he does not intend on making politics his career. He is doing this for the country and to show Obama how bad his 8 years really turned out.
Liberals do not realize that their whining is so unappealing and not convincing at all. They are throwing a lot of money into producing a lot of lies, and have convinced only the young and uninformed. No one with any sense is going to take what they say for face value. Anyone that checks what they say, finds out that they are lying. Example: the lie they are passing about regarding "pre-existing" when it comes to the new health care bill.

Never mind, carry on.

Speaking of whining, changing subjects, etc.

1. PLEASE, IN SOME DETAIL allow us to know exactly what was said on that site OR any link that has been supplied that you disagree with or have information to the opposite ????

2. Have you located all those sites that you referred to earlier today ?

3. THE ELECTION IS OVER...glad you understand that. What does that have to do with the subject of Trumps tax returns and folks responding to sarcasm as to why they are important ?

Originally Posted by Guest

Speaking of whining, changing subjects, etc.

1. PLEASE, IN SOME DETAIL allow us to know exactly what was said on that site OR any link that has been supplied that you disagree with or have information to the opposite ????

2. Have you located all those sites that you referred to earlier today ?

3. THE ELECTION IS OVER...glad you understand that. What does that have to do with the subject of Trumps tax returns and folks responding to sarcasm as to why they are important ?

Trump's tax returns are neither required by law or necessary. Period. Get over it. You will not get to see them unless someone leaks them.

Originally Posted by Guest

Trump's tax returns are neither required by law or necessary. Period. Get over it. You will not get to see them unless someone leaks them.

From this post, I surmise that you are totally and completely unable to respond to my question of you, as you simply throw out supplied information as false, YET you're unable to support your claim.

Secondly, I assume you have been unable to locate the sites you "lost".

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Directly to your statements, i and everybody knows that despite all other candidates supplying the returns as a way of showing transparency and trust, Trump has no legal requirement to do so.

The only way is by possible subpoena.

Originally Posted by Guest

From this post, I surmise that you are totally and completely unable to respond to my question of you, as you simply throw out supplied information as false, YET you're unable to support your claim.

Secondly, I assume you have been unable to locate the sites you "lost".

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Directly to your statements, i and everybody knows that despite all other candidates supplying the returns as a way of showing transparency and trust, Trump has no legal requirement to do so.

The only way is by possible subpoena.

He didn't "lose" those sites, even he knows that they are so blatantly biased and lies...that he's embarrassed to link to them.

Originally Posted by Guest

He didn't "lose" those sites, even he knows that they are so blatantly biased and lies...that he's embarrassed to link to them.

Yeah, I knew that. Actually, the old adage is "never ask a question that you don't know the answer to" applies.

I checked every mention of Russia/Podesta/Russia and found ONLY extreme right wing sites and/or Russian connected sites.

Forbes did have an item on sone democratic lobbyists, but the Russian banks need help in getting the sanctions dropped and have been everywhere.

Sorry, but I can't link PDF files to this blog. Does it really matter that much to you? I am not going to search back for those sites. I have seen how you just ignore fact or write it off as not important, so why should I bother? I made a statement and you can't disprove it. Sorry for not falling for your trap.

Originally Posted by Guest

Sorry, but I can't link PDF files to this blog. Does it really matter that much to you? I am not going to search back for those sites. I have seen how you just ignore fact or write it off as not important, so why should I bother? I made a statement and you can't disprove it. Sorry for not falling for your trap.

Already disproved what you claim, a number of times.

I will help you....this is ALL....ALL, who report your claims....you can check there and copy and paste. It is an impressive group.


Infowars
Washington Standard
Daily Caller
Breitbart
Zero Hedge
Pamela Geller
Constitution.com
Wiki leaks
LIberty Alliance
Newstarget
The Duran
100percentfedup.com
Shadowproof
Townhall
Cscmediagroupus
Grahamhancock
GatewayPundit
Conservative Daily news
Rickwells.com
Lidblog.com


That is it.....if I missed any, I apologize, but that is just about the sites reporting your claims. Are these your normal reading sites ?

And no, it matters little. It is just the type of trite that extreme trolls post in some sort of false defense of Trump action. Funny thing is, and I ask again...defense if what.

Only accusations being thrown around are from OUR White House.

The subject should be "Debbie says BYOB" or "Debbie does Dallas for Hillary" but no one would believe the second one.

Originally Posted by Guest

Already disproved what you claim, a number of times.

I will help you....this is ALL....ALL, who report your claims....you can check there and copy and paste. It is an impressive group.


Infowars
Washington Standard
Daily Caller
Breitbart
Zero Hedge
Pamela Geller
Constitution.com
Wiki leaks
LIberty Alliance
Newstarget
The Duran
100percentfedup.com
Shadowproof
Townhall
Cscmediagroupus
Grahamhancock
GatewayPundit
Conservative Daily news
Rickwells.com
Lidblog.com


That is it.....if I missed any, I apologize, but that is just about the sites reporting your claims. Are these your normal reading sites ?

And no, it matters little. It is just the type of trite that extreme trolls post in some sort of false defense of Trump action. Funny thing is, and I ask again...defense if what.

Only accusations being thrown around are from OUR White House.

Actually, you know it might have been from the Huffington Pravda. Why don't you check there? Tell me again, how you "disproved" what I said?