And every other President in office during a war did a good or better job?? Yeah right.

If other periods in history had the 24/7 media, the outcomes would have been very different.
Like the days of old, if the military were allowed to go in and win....blow the enemy away....collatoral damage, permissive pacifists, special interest groups be damned!!!!

None of will know why the President does what he does.....and we sure as hell won't get a fair shake from the media.

I guess a populist President would do a better job eh? Like Jimmy Carter...eh?

Yeah right!!

BTK :edit:

Some of you folks really sound like you're on the defensive. Bush is doing a crummy job, so let's attack Carter. Whatever.....

Why do people keep bringing up Jimmy Carter didn't we have other presidents
This is about Bush not the other presidents

Not a fair question.

How can anyone respond to that without holding their nose?

Then you can't type.
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Tony

;D ;D ;D 1rnfl Good one Toncat!

Bush has been the worst President of my lifetime. He has been wrong on many issues and policies. Our country is in bad shape for the working and middle class.

Is the Bush administration (and all of the folk within it) any better or worse than any other in the past how-many-years? I guess that would depend on what was the state of things when he took office, what happened during his term(s) and the result of his (and the rest of the administration's) actions.

We had a budget surplus, but that was due to prior extreme cuts in defense and intelligence-service spending. As a result, the national security was risked so the bank account could be more flush.

We had an unemployment rate of 5.6% with the prior administration, and the latest information shows a current 5.0% rate.

We had no war during the prior administration, but we also had no attacks on the homeland then as well.

We have 15+ million illegal aliens in the US now, and this number has grown steadily for the last 20 years. Has ANY administration in the last 20 years really cared?

The efficacy of public education during the past 7 years really won't be known for another 5-10 years at best, but could it get worse than it was? ((possibly!))

The housing market skyrocketed, and came down just as fast. Is any president at fault because people made risky financial decisions regarding mortgages or purchases?

Unless someone has gotten rich and nothing negative has ever happened to them during that time frame, I don't think anyone is ever really happy with the job any president is doing while in office. After the sitting president is replaced, it's amazing how many people selectively remember things that happened during an administration, and bother to measure how many things that occur in one administration that have serious effects on subsequent administrations.

Has Bush done a good job? History (as subjective as that can be) will provide a synopsis - positive or negative (or both). He hasn't been impeached, and if the current Congress wanted it and thought it had grounds, do you think they'd go after him?

I remember the same "good job" question about the Clinton years, and every other president prior (in my lifetime). It makes you wonder why anyone would want the job.

Is it time for a change - Yes, and thank the Founding Fathers for having the foresight to limit a term to 4 years, and the Truman administration (Democrat) for endorsing the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution.

After all of the negativity towards Presidents during the last few administrations, hooray to ANYONE willing to vie for the job!

Well we haven't had a Federal Tax increase since Clinton gave us the biggest ever in 1993. I like that Mr. BUSH! Have you noticed the European countries are all on a flat tax. They saw what happend with the Reagan and Bush tax cuts and they liked it too. To bad we can't have a flat tax, like them.

My state of Michigan is in the toilet, but I feel that too was the handy work of Clinton and his democrats with NAFTA. Thats why the economy and housing is so bad here in Michigan. Remember Ross Perot with his hand to his ear saying "Do you hear that sucking sound, it's your jobs going to Mexico". Democrats here laughed and said he was nuts! Now the UAW is encouraging their workers to vote for Obama because he's the man who will stop NAFTA and bring home all the jobs. The Miracle Man! Suddenly their telling all the union workers the Clintons aren't the answer anymore.
The democrats have tried every chance they get to increase the federal taxes and Bush veto's the bills every time. Obama and his Democrats have already promised to let Bush's tax cuts that expire in 2010 die in the wind. Get ready to get hosed if they win.

I will wait until there is a new President to compare him to as the past is what ever it was at the time and we know not what any President could or couldn't do at the time.....just like we don't know all the issues, except what the media presents, about Bush or any other subject.

I want to see which candidate running their lips about the war...how long it takes for them to make everybody happy......in the mean time don't hold your breath.

I will give my opinion about Bush one year after January 1, 2009.....remember we could have done and could do worse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTK

Hmm, I can't imagine how we could have done worse. I guess it all depends on your perspective.

.This is the President who took us into a foreign country to invade,lied to us about why, didn't believe in global warming, stopped stem cell research, put our country in so much debt that our grandchildren will be paying for his spending, gave the very very rich a great tax break off the backs of the middle and poor. I lost a newphew in this occupation and for what? Look at the spying on Americans,the state of the Veteran Hospitals, and how my newphew was brought home hidden from media as President Bush won't even honor his casket...4004 killed and many more terribly wounded but we are to just keep killing and maiming our poor soldiers for lies. In my lifetime, this President Bush is the WORST leader for the middle class and the poor. I was a Republican but switched because of this President. Better things to do than try to convince anyone on here .

Many think Bush is doing a great job,but I can't figure out if its for us or on us.

Hosed by taxes or hosed by war debt..your choice..either way we'll most likely be hosed.
There may be more of us alive to hose if one votes Dem.








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I will wait until there is a new President to compare him to as the past is what ever it was at the time and we know not what any President could or couldn't do at the time.....just like we don't know all the issues, except what the media presents, about Bush or any other subject.

I want to see which candidate running their lips about the war...how long it takes for them to make everybody happy......in the mean time don't hold your breath.

I will give my opinion about Bush one year after January 1, 2009.....remember we could have done and could do worse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTK
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Whoever the new President is, he or she will have 8 years of damage to start to clean up. I liked Hilary's comment on "It took one Clinton to clean up after a Bush administration and now it's time for another Clinton to clean after a Bush administration." It will be very hard to judge the new President for a couple of years. I'm with Hillary or Obama. I think McClain will give us the same old, same old, even though it may not appear that way. As for higher taxes, well get a grip. Someone has to pay for Bush's War. So far it's just been the middleclass. Let's get the deep pockets to chip in. And that $600 is laughable. One of his comments was that it would offset the decrease in home values and I love Jon Stewart's remark "yes, if your home is plastic and is located on Baltic Avenue!" Bush spends money like it's Monopoly money, so the comment was completely on point. Can't possibly get worse than Bush. Just my opinion.

I agree with Chels about the taxes. The whole point I believe of the tax cuts was to stimulate the economy, but look what has happened. The loss of tax dollars, plus the ridiculous amount we're spending on the war is driving the nation into the ground. I think raising the taxes is a case of tough love. No one wants to do it, but its a necessary thing especially if we're goint to rescue Social Security.