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Old 12-12-2011, 04:41 PM
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Both Speaker Gingrich and Gov Romney pledge to repeal The Affordable Care Act, and both support the Paul Ryan plan to end medicare as we know it and replace it with a voucher system. Without The Affordable Care Act, insurance companies can once again discriminate against people with pre-existing conditions. Good luck to the 80 year old with pre-existing conditions shopping for health insurance on the open market with their voucher. I don't know how anyone on or near medicare could support either one of these candidates.
Prority one, save the nation (Get rid of Obama). We'll work out the details later.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:46 PM
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IjustloveTV should have read deeper into the document he quoted. The Ryan proposal would cost the taxpayer MORE money. Good luck on trying to get the coverage for a pre-existing condition, too.


"To summarize, a typical beneficiary would spend more for health care under the proposalthan under CBO’s long-term scenarios for several reasons. First, private plans would cost more than traditional Medicare because of the net effect of differences in payment rates for providers, administrative costs, and utilization of health care services,as described above. Second, the government’s contribution would grow more slowly than health care costs, leaving more for beneficiaries to pay."
Coverage of pre=existing conditions will not work with the "Sharing the risk" model of insurance. Buy insurance before you get sick. Stop trying to cheat the system.
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Old 12-12-2011, 06:24 PM
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When republicans have nothing intelligent to say they resort to name calling. If Speaker Gingrich is such a great candidate, why is he being offered one million dollars to drop out by Michael Savage? Pitiful.
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IjustloveTV should have read deeper into the document he quoted. The Ryan proposal would cost the taxpayer MORE money. Good luck on trying to get the coverage for a pre-existing condition, too.


"To summarize, a typical beneficiary would spend more for health care under the proposalthan under CBO’s long-term scenarios for several reasons. First, private plans would cost more than traditional Medicare because of the net effect of differences in payment rates for providers, administrative costs, and utilization of health care services,as described above. Second, the government’s contribution would grow more slowly than health care costs, leaving more for beneficiaries to pay."

" The premium support payments would also vary with the income of the beneficiary. People in the top 2 percent of the annual income distribution of the Medicare-eligible population would receive 30 percent of the premium support amount described above; people in the next 6 percent of the distribution would receive 50 percent of the amount described above; and people in the remaining 92 percent of the distribution would receive the full premium support amount described above.''


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Old 12-13-2011, 11:47 AM
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the war in Iraq is not ended. The troops coming home by the end of the year is merely a chapter being closed in a very lengthy political quagmire.

Just ask the troops who will remain there if the war is over. Ask the family members of Iraqis still being killed by insurgents.

Don't let the campaign spin on the subject of the war in Iraq fool you.

He killed Bin Laden? The killing of Bin Laden was in the works long before Obama showed up. Truth be known, Panetta is the real perpetrator of making sure it happened. Yes it happened on his watch, hence it is campaign fodder.

Anything Obama is doing now is measured by the deeds potential impact on his campaign for re-election.....and NOTHING more.

The pied piper and master of talk it away is cranking up the telepromters to get you all AGAIN.

I do believe the get me once but not twice will prevail with most Americans looking beyond words.

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Old 12-13-2011, 11:58 AM
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I thought you were going to say that George W Bush landed the helicopter inside the compound and shot Bin Laden himself. Don't you get dizzy from so much spinning?
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Old 12-13-2011, 12:34 PM
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I thought you were going to say that George W Bush landed the helicopter inside the compound and shot Bin Laden himself. Don't you get dizzy from so much spinning?
Disciples of Obama (who you claim killed Bin Laden) belittle the SEALS and military command of the entire decade when you claim Obama accomplished this.
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Old 12-13-2011, 02:16 PM
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I think history will show that President Obama was the president who ordered the raid that accomplished the mission.
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From 2001 until he left the White House, Junior was scratching his head wondering where bin Laden was hiding. Junior was an embarassment to the country and is still a laughing stock.
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Old 12-13-2011, 02:55 PM
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From 2001 until he left the White House, Junior was scratching his head wondering where bin Laden was hiding. Junior was an embarassment to the country and is still a laughing stock.
The wealthy members of the far right would not agree with you, he gave them their precious tax cuts.
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Old 12-13-2011, 04:07 PM
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I think history will show that President Obama was the president who ordered the raid that accomplished the mission.
Boy, Way to go out on a limb on that one.

I don't think we will have to wait for history for this. He was/is the president, so who else would have ordered it.

The finer point would be if Obama would have started the hunt for him in the first place. I don't think so.
I think Obama was just the recipient of good planning by the previous and now his, administration.
To say that Obama deserves all the credit for this mission only shows ones true colors.
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Old 12-13-2011, 05:26 PM
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Don't worry about President Obama. He'll be just fine. Worry about your own loser candidates - Newt Romney.
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"It would be a finer point if Obama had started the hunt for him (bin Laden) in the first place. I don't think so."

No, Junior Bush (aka Bushette) started the hunt for bin Laden in 2001, failed miserably in his hunt, slunk off back to Crawford, and had to wait until 2011 for President Obama's team of Navy SEALS did the job.
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Old 12-13-2011, 05:56 PM
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Don't worry about President Obama. He'll be just fine. Worry about your own loser candidates - Newt Romney.
It seems that it is very hard for you to say something without venom.

How do you know who's candidate is who's?

I think buggyone has it as close as anybody will ever know about who did what. Does it really matter, We got him. That was the mission. The mission was not "getting credit" for doing something.

If that is what you want then each of them, Bush and Obama get a gold star.
 


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