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Old 08-02-2017, 04:22 PM
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Chumps proposed requirement that LEGAL immigrants must now speak English for admission, is playing to his base which for so many were actually hearing Trump say.... 'MAKE AMERICA WHITE AGAIN.'


On top of that, even with an overwhelming majority (almost 100%) from Congress demanding sanctions against Russia (and NK/Iran), Trump very reluctantly and grudgingly signed it while whining that he could have negotiated a better deal (yeah, right ) and calls the bill "seriously flawed"...because he cannot make them go away without Congress' approval.

And you ignorant Chump Cultists, still don't think that Trump isn't up to his lying a$$...in Russian alligators?

Really?
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The United States is made up of many people from many lands. But, I also think it's important that everyone speak the same language once they get here. I also think this has no chance of ever seeing the light of day.
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Chumps proposed requirement that LEGAL immigrants must now speak English for admission, is playing to his base which for so many were actually hearing Trump say.... 'MAKE AMERICA WHITE AGAIN.'


On top of that, even with an overwhelming majority (almost 100%) from Congress demanding sanctions against Russia (and NK/Iran), Trump very reluctantly and grudgingly signed it while whining that he could have negotiated a better deal (yeah, right ) and calls the bill "seriously flawed"...because he cannot make them go away without Congress' approval.

And you ignorant Chump Cultists, still don't think that Trump isn't up to his lying a$$...in Russian alligators?

Really?
it's what we MUST do...make America white again. We peaked when we were 90% white...we've been falling proportionally as the numbers of non-whites have risen. The country has fallen from #1 to #25 as the numbers of whites has fallen. We are 49% white now and will be 20-24% within 30 years. America is done...finished unless the demographics change.

America has never been worse and it's also never been "darker" demographically.

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The United States is made up of many people from many lands. But, I also think it's important that everyone speak the same language once they get here. I also think this has no chance of ever seeing the light of day.
America was white European...90% white European up until the 1960s when the policy shifted to importing brown people. Now, Hispanics are 1/3 the population and growing...they WILL be 51% within 30 years. America is already a "minority majority"...and the number of whites is dropping fast.

America up until the 1960s was a "melting pot" of different white people. 10% of the immigrants were colored. Now, it's reversed and immigration is 90% colored and 10% white.

America will NOT survive becoming a "colored" country...none have...the past is littered with former white countries becoming black/Hispanic run.
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Chumps proposed requirement that LEGAL immigrants must now speak English for admission, is playing to his base which for so many were actually hearing Trump say.... 'MAKE AMERICA WHITE AGAIN.'
Well.............no.

The purpose of having legal immigrants, who will probably spend their entire lives in America, speak English is so they can hold jobs and assimilate. Otherwise, they might be headed for the welfare rolls.

And, as one who has traveled all around the world (over 20 countries) either while working or for personal pleasure, I can assure you that English is the lingua franca throughout the world.

This is evidenced by the fact that in all international commercial flights the contacts between the pilots and the control towers must be in English even if the pilots and tower operators are native speakers of another language that they have in common.

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Chumps proposed requirement that LEGAL immigrants must now speak English for admission, is playing to his base which for so many were actually hearing Trump say.... 'MAKE AMERICA WHITE AGAIN.'
Well...........let's examine this.

It is already the law that applicants for naturalization as Americans must speak English.

This is from the government web page on how to become a citizen.

Applicants must be:

* At least 18 years old at the time of filing
* Able to read, write, and speak basic English
* A person of good moral character

You will find it at How to Become a U.S. Citizen | USAGov

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Well.............no.

The purpose of having legal immigrants, who will probably spend their entire lives in America, speak English is so they can hold jobs and assimilate. Otherwise, they might be headed for the welfare rolls.

And, as one who has traveled all around the world (over 20 countries) either while working or for personal pleasure, I can assure you that English is the lingua franca throughout the world.

This is evidenced by the fact that in all international commercial flights the contacts between the pilots and the control towers must be in English even if the pilots and tower operators are native speakers of another language that they have in common.

Carl in Tampa
They also use OUR calendar...our time system, our aircraft, our computers, our radios, our GPS, our satellites, our TVs...etc...etc.

White Europeans created western civilization and the technology that built the world as it is today. so yes...they should speak our language too.

And show a little respect for white people instead of blaming everything on us. Where is that picture of the two Negros? One living among the "oppressive" white people and the other still living as they were found in Africa.
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They also use OUR calendar...our time system, our aircraft, our computers, our radios, our GPS, our satellites, our TVs...etc...etc.



White Europeans created western civilization and the technology that built the world as it is today. so yes...they should speak our language too.



And show a little respect for white people instead of blaming everything on us. Where is that picture of the two Negros? One living among the "oppressive" white people and the other still living as they were found in Africa.

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What was that 5 or 6 of those stupid pictures...go to the woman's forum where you belong.
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What was that 5 or 6 of those stupid pictures...go to the woman's forum where you belong.


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Well...........let's examine this.

It is already the law that applicants for naturalization as Americans must speak English.

This is from the government web page on how to become a citizen.

Applicants must be:

* At least 18 years old at the time of filing
* Able to read, write, and speak basic English
* A person of good moral character

You will find it at How to Become a U.S. Citizen | USAGov

Carl in Tampa

SMH


Apparently you aren't smart enough to realize that learning to speak English before becoming a citizen has always been a requirement...NOT that you had to speak English when you first got here.

Instead of speaking out of your a$$...try educating yourself first.

This change is simply an attempt.... to try and keep America white.

Which appears you agree with.
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Old 08-03-2017, 04:33 AM
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Its interesting the number of people who live in foreign lands take it upon themselves to learn to speak English just for the sake of better themselves. Many people strive to speak many languages. to wit Melania Trump

The unfortunate true is too many people immigrant here not to assimilate and it was assimilation that made this nation great. What does their refusal to learn the language really say and if they refuse our language what else about our nation will they refuse. assimilation is essential for all the obvious reasons

It also unfortunate too that many people born in the USA cannot comprehend that despite its flaws this nation is the best human civilization ever created. Instead like an army of Colin Kapernick's they so utter disregard and disrespect for this nation and its people. and so sow the seeds of this nation's destruction

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Its interesting the number of people who live in foreign lands take it upon themselves to learn to speak English just for the sake of better themselves. Many people strive to speak many languages. to wit Melania Trump

The unfortunate true is too many people immigrant here not to assimilate and it was assimilation that made this nation great. What does their refusal to learn the language really say and if they refuse our language what else about our nation will they refuse. assimilation is essential for all the obvious reasons

It also unfortunate too that many people born in the USA cannot comprehend that despite its flaws this nation is the best human civilization ever created. Instead like an army of Colin Kapernick's they so utter disregard and disrespect for this nation and its people. and so sow the seeds of this nation's destruction

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It was done in the 1960s, when we switched from white immigration to black/brown immigration.
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The ability to demonstrate that one can read, write and speak English, is currently and has always been a requirement for citizenship in this country.All this administration is doing is saying that they intend to enforce the law as written. Why is that a problem?

If people don't like the law, then they should lobby to change it, but as long as it exists, it is the duty of the federal government to enforce federal laws.

I think that pretty much everyone, including many on the left are getting tired of the cries of "racism" every time anyone mentions pretty much every thing these days.
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Its interesting the number of people who live in foreign lands take it upon themselves to learn to speak English just for the sake of better themselves. Many people strive to speak many languages. to wit Melania Trump

The unfortunate true is too many people immigrant here not to assimilate and it was assimilation that made this nation great. What does their refusal to learn the language really say and if they refuse our language what else about our nation will they refuse. assimilation is essential for all the obvious reasons

It also unfortunate too that many people born in the USA cannot comprehend that despite its flaws this nation is the best human civilization ever created. Instead like an army of Colin Kapernick's they so utter disregard and disrespect for this nation and its people. and so sow the seeds of this nation's destruction

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You can add my wife to that number as well.

Isn't this why we are called the great melting pot? All of these various cultures come here and become a mixture of them all, not a hundred different cultures. Not a thousand different languages.

Now that's not to say that people can't be proud of and celebrate their heritage. There's nothing wrong with Italian American festivals or African American celebrations. Demonstrating all of the various cultures that are what the U.S. is made of is interesting and informative and allows people to hang on to a bit of their past, But we should never forget that we are a people that are bonded by common ideals, a common culture that is a blend of many cultures melted and mixed together with common goals and a common language.

People that come here and insist on keeping 100% of their culture and language are not interested in becoming Americans. We need to unite as a people not emphasize what divides us.
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Well.............no.

The purpose of having legal immigrants, who will probably spend their entire lives in America, speak English is so they can hold jobs and assimilate. Otherwise, they might be headed for the welfare rolls.

And, as one who has traveled all around the world (over 20 countries) either while working or for personal pleasure, I can assure you that English is the lingua franca throughout the world.

This is evidenced by the fact that in all international commercial flights the contacts between the pilots and the control towers must be in English even if the pilots and tower operators are native speakers of another language that they have in common.

Carl in Tampa
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You can add my wife to that number as well.

Isn't this why we are called the great melting pot? All of these various cultures come here and become a mixture of them all, not a hundred different cultures. Not a thousand different languages.

Now that's not to say that people can't be proud of and celebrate their heritage. There's nothing wrong with Italian American festivals or African American celebrations. Demonstrating all of the various cultures that are what the U.S. is made of is interesting and informative and allows people to hang on to a bit of their past, But we should never forget that we are a people that are bonded by common ideals, a common culture that is a blend of many cultures melted and mixed together with common goals and a common language.

People that come here and insist on keeping 100% of their culture and language are not interested in becoming Americans. We need to unite as a people not emphasize what divides us.
Trumps Law, which hopefully will never see the light of day, is talking about immigrants, not people applying for citizenship. Obviously by the time you apply for citizenship you have to have knowledge of the language etc.

i'm thinking back to earlier times when we had immigrants from Germany, from Italy, and other countries where people did not speak English or, maybe just a little bit. They got here, they went to Italian communities in New York City for example or German communities in Pennsylvania or whatever, got jobs and eventually applied for citizenship. Their children grew up learning two languages, Italian or German in the home, and English in the schools of course. The second generation is always a generation that is more Americanized. And that is something our country has always celebrated. That's why we have the Italian festivals and Oktoberfest, and that sort of thing. We celebrate our shared heritage from many countries across the globe.

As others have said, if an immigrant come here not knowing English, which many of them do not, and they reach the stage where they want to apply for citizenship, they will have to have that skill. It is a requirement.
 

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