angiefox10, the problem, at least to me, is that it seems like you are trying to have one big continuous discussion in many different threads. That isn't how it works. Not everyone reads every thread that is posted.

I may just see a title that interests me and read that particular discussion. If there are questions or comments you posted in other discussions, those aren't necessarily relavent to every thread.

Maybe that is why some of the things you are posting seem a little disjointed. I mean that in the kindest way. It just doesn't make sense to post something and make comments regarding a previous discussion that I, and perhaps others, have no knowledge of what you are talking about.

This thread you started is about the Founding Fathers being liberal. You didn't provide any links to discuss or read. Now it has diverted to a discussion about Republicans and Medicare. It is impossible to follow what you are trying to say.

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1

angiefox10, the problem, at least to me, is that it seems like you are trying to have one big continuous discussion in many different threads. That isn't how it works. Not everyone reads every thread that is posted.

I may just see a title that interests me and read that particular discussion. If there are questions or comments you posted in other discussions, those aren't necessarily relavent to every thread.

Maybe that is why some of the things you are posting seem a little disjointed. I mean that in the kindest way. It just doesn't make sense to post something and make comments regarding a previous discussion that I, and perhaps others, have no knowledge of what you are talking about.

This thread you started is about the Founding Fathers being liberal. You didn't provide any links to discuss or read. Now it has diverted to a discussion about Republicans and Medicare. It is impossible to follow what you are trying to say.

Amen. Thanks for saying what I couldn't express.

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1

angiefox10, the problem, at least to me, is that it seems like you are trying to have one big continuous discussion in many different threads. That isn't how it works. Not everyone reads every thread that is posted.

I may just see a title that interests me and read that particular discussion. If there are questions or comments you posted in other discussions, those aren't necessarily relavent to every thread.

Maybe that is why some of the things you are posting seem a little disjointed. I mean that in the kindest way. It just doesn't make sense to post something and make comments regarding a previous discussion that I, and perhaps others, have no knowledge of what you are talking about.

This thread you started is about the Founding Fathers being liberal. You didn't provide any links to discuss or read. Now it has diverted to a discussion about Republicans and Medicare. It is impossible to follow what you are trying to say.

You are right and I do understand that.

That wasn't what I was trying to do... In fact, what I did was go on a rant and you (unfortunately) got in the middle of it. There are people on the thread who don't want to discuss the subjects but want to be right. So no matter what I post, even when I agree with them, they will argue. I found it so frustrating that I just posted to give them something to argue with... who knew that a couple of you would come on and actually want to know what I wanted to talk about????

I don't want to argue.. I want to exchange ideas...

Most of this stuff I really don't care about. I don't really care if our founding fathers were liberal or conservative, or who wrote the pledge of allegiance... but I was tried of arguing with people who are just on here to argue. So... I went on a rant. I apologize to everyone who to caught up in the middle of it.

The people I am referring to, can be right... I don't care. But to me, most of these topics are not right or wrong issues...

Thank you for you input.

Originally Posted by Bucco

You are right BTK....I am shocked by anyone who feels that liberals and conservatives or Democrats and Republicans are the same as they were, say in the 60's !

I was very active in the Democrat party in the 60's and early 70's but left as they sped hell bent to the hard left....not my cup of tea and today, the Soros;s of the world control that party. Not the same.

JFK was kinda conservative.

Originally Posted by Bucco

You are right BTK....I am shocked by anyone who feels that liberals and conservatives or Democrats and Republicans are the same as they were, say in the 60's !
Today Ronnie wouldn't even make it out of the primary. Way to liberal.


I was very active in the Democrat party in the 60's and early 70's but left as they sped hell bent to the hard left....not my cup of tea and today, the Soros;s of the world control that party. Not the same.

Ya, and the Coke brothers don't control the republicans? When Coke says jump the Wisconsin Governor simply asks "How hi".

--whispers-- Do you mean the Koch brothers?

Originally Posted by debanddon

Ya, and the Coke brothers don't control the republicans? When Coke says jump the Wisconsin Governor simply asks "How hi".

The quote you attribute to me IS NOT my quote. In your rendition there is a reference, I suppose, to Regan...WHICH IS NOT IN MY ORIGINAL POST.

Why is that ?

It looks like debanddon changed your quote, Bucco. That is absolutely wrong by any and all standards.

Originally Posted by debanddon

Ya, and the Coke brothers don't control the republicans? When Coke says jump the Wisconsin Governor simply asks "How hi".

And when Warren Buffet decides to shore up Obama's re-election campaign by putting $5 billion into Bank of America knowing it is considered by the government to be "too big to fail"....and we taxpayers have the liens against us to make sure Buffet and BOA will come out just fine....

"NEW YORK -- The multi-billion dollar capital injection that Bank of America said it's getting from Warren Buffett's company is an extremely safe investment, experts said Thursday -- but not because Bank of America is a strong company.

Berkshire Hathaway's investment is safe, these finance experts said, because the government has the bank's back.

Although government regulators insist the era of bank bailouts is over, many who study the financial industry say the nation's biggest banks are still too big to fail, meaning they must be rescued by the government when they face potentially fatal trouble in order to prevent a broader collapse of the financial system...."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_937118.html

He has been fighting IRS for 9 years. Why don't he just pay his taxes?
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_b...-buffetts.html

I can't believe there is even a question as to which side the wealthy are on. No HONEST person would say any party other than the Republicans.

Simply look at what the republicans are willing to fight for ( mean really fight for). 1) Tax cuts for the Wealthy 2) Lower estate taxes for multi million dollar estates. 3) Lower Corporate taxes. 4) Not closing loop holes for the wealthy.

You have to give them credit. They are so skilled at spinning their agenda they are able to convince middle class folks to vote against their best economic interest. Here is my favorite: Lower our (the rich) taxes because if you do we'll create more jobs for you. Soon, it'll be "We shouldn't have to pay any taxes because we are the job creaters".

What gets me the most is most republicans are not rich. Many (if not most) are republicans because of social issues like abortion, guns or bibles. Do you see your bought and paid for republicans really fighting for any of these issues? No, they just use these issues to get their base all excited but when they get into office they do nothing about it.

Sorry I misspelled "Koch".

So there are no wealthy Democrats?

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/1...tered-in-2009-

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/35298

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richest...an_politicians

http://www.rollcall.com/features/Gui.../-38181-1.html

http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/...-for-the-rich/

More links!!!!....I need them!!!!.....I have to have my links!!!!!...Quick, before I start seeing spiders!!!!!

Originally Posted by debanddon

I can't believe there is even a question as to which side the wealthy are on. No HONEST person would say any party other than the Republicans.

Simply look at what the republicans are willing to fight for ( mean really fight for). 1) Tax cuts for the Wealthy 2) Lower estate taxes for multi million dollar estates. 3) Lower Corporate taxes. 4) Not closing loop holes for the wealthy.

You have to give them credit. They are so skilled at spinning their agenda they are able to convince middle class folks to vote against their best economic interest. Here is my favorite: Lower our (the rich) taxes because if you do we'll create more jobs for you. Soon, it'll be "We shouldn't have to pay any taxes because we are the job creaters".

What gets me the most is most republicans are not rich. Many (if not most) are republicans because of social issues like abortion, guns or bibles. Do you see your bought and paid for republicans really fighting for any of these issues? No, they just use these issues to get their base all excited but when they get into office they do nothing about it.

Sorry I misspelled "Koch".

You don't know a thing about why most republicans are republicans. If you did, you would know we are so because we understand the long-range outcomes of being nationally bankrupt, insolvent, fiscally irresponsible, and printers of money not worth the paper it's printed on. With this continued destruction, we soon won't have a nation anymore.

Democrats refuse to admit to the old adage "Whoever owns your debt owns YOU." We are "owned", and that translates to "slavery".

All of our founders, veterans and military heroes of the past did not stand up to tyranny and fight for our liberty so we could be ENSLAVED!

Originally Posted by DaleMN

More links!!!!....I need them!!!!.....I have to have my links!!!!!...Quick, before I start seeing spiders!!!!!

Do you favor executive or championship?