Anyone who read GRACIEGirls comment in the main section concerning the political forum should take the time to read through these threads.

She is offended because of all the threads concerning the lying by Donald Trump. She feels it is unfair to talk about the President of the United States lying to american citizens.

She supports Rubicon in insisting that the media EXCEPT FOX simply makes things up, YET, neither she or he has EVER BEEN ABLE TO SUPPLY ONE INSTANCE and skirt the threads on the misinformation by Fox.

She says everybody disagrees with me....well, on this forum...YEP probably. As I said very clearly when I came back here and began to post again it is due to the misinformation, lying and downright meanness of the alt right extremists who post here. She does not mind lies....I do.

Anyway, please follow the threads and posts of Gracie and Rubicon.

All about labeling any american in disagreement with them to be very bad people...NEVER WITH SUBSTANTIATION, just ACCUSATIONS

It is about lecturing and not discussing. I have been challenged and began probably more than 20 threads concerning issues not related to lying by Trump and neither GRACIE OR RUBICON participated.

They, in my opinion, have sold out the country to follow and adore one man.

How many times can these two make brazen accusations, never able to substantiate them, and never respond to those who post and supply links.

Gracie and Rubicon dont even read links provided to them UNLESS there might be a link to their adored one, and not many of them.

She can, as she always does and did this morning, judge and speak for all of you, but until she is able to conduct and adult conversation using facts to discuss, they both are simply trolls.

Originally Posted by Guest

Dear Rubicon

I’m not sure if you fully realize the extent of personal attacks, bullying and harassment this one poster has inflicted on other posters going back at least 8 years. I quick google search will verify this. The latest subject of her vileness was directed toward someone who no longer wants contact with her, she was put on his ignore list as well as unfriended on Facebook. There are many interwoven threads that may appear unconnected if not followed but complete a picture if personally involved. Attacking a posters political beliefs spills into attacking that person personally given what the attacker knows about their personal life. Some people are more trusting of others and the predators seek those people out first by friending them, finding out all they can about them and finally when the moment is right hold that person hostage to unwarranted attacks and emotional abuse. Some take the direct approach and hit with all their might, others take a more passive aggressive and subtle approach and sadistically play cat and mouse so as to entertain their narcissistic needs. You’re intelligent Rubicon, you must see what’s going on. None of us are innocent and we all play with one another in a give and take but we all live to fight another day.
I despise bully’s. As a child I was bullied unmercifully both at school and in my neighborhood. I was overweight with certain family issues that made me a mark for vicious unrelenting attacks. Again, I’m not innocent. At times I take pleasure in doing what bully’s have done to me. I’m human as all of us are and sensitive perhaps too much to the point where I react too quickly and just as vicious as my tormentors were to me.
I take no moral high ground, simply a level playing field and ask the predators to suppress their impulses and leave those whose sensitivities rule their lives be left alone, if that’s what they choose.

In reply to your above-stated response, first let me acknowledge that the content of your post supports the fact that you do not desire to take the high moral ground.

Next, thank you for not portraying me as some sort of preacher, etc when all I did was suggest that people speak to the issues and not direct their anger with personal attacks, which is a common problem on this forum.

I will acknowledge that I am unaware of what you speak as to the poster in question. The only excuse I have is that with few exceptions I don't take offense because one would have to take TOTV seriously and while I enjoy engaging with other posters this is after all just a way to pass time, gain a few useful hints, information etc. By the way I do not facebook, twitter and seldom google

I have no sense of what you say about this poster as being true or untrue, but if true then your above explanation is a better response then the original post.

Finally at great pains I have refrained from ever using a username in Political Talk because at minimum doing so leaves the mere appearance of a personal and vengeful response.

Personal Best Regards: