some might argue that the unions built this country.

I think it's basic human nature to strive to get a little more, climb the ladder, be a little safer from poverty and want. And it is soooo American.

I am stunned that a group of folks here continue to ridicule and revile people who work, or wish they could, including union members, and even, (perish the thought!), those grungy occupiers...

while at the very same time, go to any lengths to worship and protect every single dollar amassed by millions of people who never worked, and who consume and spend obscenely.

first, about the crazies who say life begins at conception, do you know that a death certificate has to be filed (at least in montana) when an abortion is performed? and secondly, it is not the Unions that built this country, but rather the WORKERS, who are in danger of losing their right to a secret ballot and whose union dues go directly to the democratic party whether they want them to or not...and thirdly, will some of you please read my post on agenda 21 which has gotten lost in the shuffle of our lively debates!

Originally Posted by coralway

A good day, indeed !!

Along with the Ohio workers victory, the ousting of Pearce in Arizona, Maine reinstatin*g same-day registrati*on, and the recall of Rep Paul Scott of Michigan.

Mississipi REJECTING the "personhood" initiative, an attempt by the crazies to declare that life begins at fertilization.

Suffolk County, NY electing a Democrat as County Executive.

coralway, when does life begin?

Originally Posted by chachacha

first, about the crazies who say life begins at conception, do you know that a death certificate has to be filed (at least in montana) when an abortion is performed? and secondly, it is not the Unions that built this country, but rather the WORKERS, who are in danger of losing their right to a secret ballot and whose union dues go directly to the democratic party whether they want them to or not...and thirdly, will some of you please read my post on agenda 21 which has gotten lost in the shuffle of our lively debates!

AMEN!!!!!!

Originally Posted by chachacha

first, about the crazies who say life begins at conception, do you know that a death certificate has to be filed (at least in montana) when an abortion is performed? and secondly, it is not the Unions that built this country, but rather the WORKERS, who are in danger of losing their right to a secret ballot and whose union dues go directly to the democratic party whether they want them to or not...and thirdly, will some of you please read my post on agenda 21 which has gotten lost in the shuffle of our lively debates!

Dear lady,
Good luck to you proving when life begins, on this forum. Certain folk are convinced that they are the keepers of the facts and won't accept a thousand well supported facts that prove them wrong! I think the reason is possibly to be found in this quote:

"Abortion kills twice. It kills the body of the baby and it kills the conscience of the mother. Abortion is profoundly anti-women. Three quarters of its victims are women: Half the babies and all the mothers." ~ Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1

God bless him, cologal. He's much appreciated in Northern Virginia and an absolute testament to the American dream. What a story this orphaned child has to tell. I know you are proud.

Thanks..... the whole family is proud of him.

Originally Posted by KatzPajamas

Dear lady,
Good luck to you proving when life begins, on this forum. Certain folk are convinced that they are the keepers of the facts and won't accept a thousand well supported facts that prove them wrong! I think the reason is possibly to be found in this quote:

"Abortion kills twice. It kills the body of the baby and it kills the conscience of the mother. Abortion is profoundly anti-women. Three quarters of its victims are women: Half the babies and all the mothers." ~ Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta

I really wouldn't take much from Mother Theresa. I know I'll catch flak for this but that woman was sufferring from SOMETHING. All those hospitals she set up? Why are patients denied pain medication? Why are they denied visitation? Because Mother Theresa thought it put them closer to godliness to suffer 'like Christ did on the cross'.

And her charities? When her charity was forced by a new law in France to publicly disclose their books, they packed up and left.

Not too many people looked beyond the image that was being carefully cultivated - but sometimes, the truth leaks out:

http://www.newstatesman.com/200508220019

Originally Posted by KatzPajamas

Dear lady,
Good luck to you proving when life begins, on this forum. Certain folk are convinced that they are the keepers of the facts and won't accept a thousand well supported facts that prove them wrong! I think the reason is possibly to be found in this quote:

"Abortion kills twice. It kills the body of the baby and it kills the conscience of the mother. Abortion is profoundly anti-women. Three quarters of its victims are women: Half the babies and all the mothers." ~ Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta

And it is posts like this that perpetuation the delusion that women who make the choice to abort are somehow inferior to those who do not. Telling a women that she kills her conscience? Maybe she is concerned about providing for the children she already has and that is on her conscience....If abortions do become illegal, it will not stop them...it will stop them from being safe. And I am talking about the old back door abortions, not the ones performed in clinics by a medically trained person..

And once again...you have NO right to make this decision for any woman. It is not your decision to make. You don't like government meddling in people's lives except for this most personal and private of decisons.....

The Republicans took over the Virginia Senate and the Mississippi House and won the ballot in Ohio with the overwhelming rejection of ObamaCare mandates by the voters.

Not a bad day on the important issues if you're Republican.

I feel sorry for people who think that the dehumanization of a baby in the womb is a political victory, but that's just me.

Originally Posted by ladydoc

And it is posts like this that perpetuation the delusion that women who make the choice to abort are somehow inferior to those who do not. Telling a women that she kills her conscience? Maybe she is concerned about providing for the children she already has and that is on her conscience....If abortions do become illegal, it will not stop them...it will stop them from being safe. And I am talking about the old back door abortions, not the ones performed in clinics by a medically trained person..

And once again...you have NO right to make this decision for any woman. It is not your decision to make. You don't like government meddling in people's lives except for this most personal and private of decisons.....

It is not just the woman involved, it is the father, the baby and God. You make it sound like the "woman" only has the right to determine life and death. What a selfish opinion!!!

Originally Posted by ladydoc

And once again...you have NO right to make this decision for any woman. It is not your decision to make. You don't like government meddling in people's lives except for this most personal and private of decisons.....

and once again...I have DO have the right-Freedom of Speech- to speak in defense of the INNOCENTS who are MURDERED daily in our country under the guise of women's rights.
I find it interesting that certain posters on this forum always show up when the subject of abortion comes up. Like I said, Mother Theresa's quote may just hold the answer...

Tell this delightful young lady that her mom had the right to choose to end her right to live a wonderful life...
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPF1FhCMPuQ[/ame]

Originally Posted by waynet

some might argue that the unions built this country.

The ones who say that, and I would be one of them, are never talking about the unions of public sector employees.

Originally Posted by ijusluvit

I think it's basic human nature to strive to get a little more, climb the ladder, be a little safer from poverty and want. And it is soooo American.

I am stunned that a group of folks here continue to ridicule and revile people who work, or wish they could, including union members, and even, (perish the thought!), those grungy occupiers...

while at the very same time, go to any lengths to worship and protect every single dollar amassed by millions of people who never worked, and who consume and spend obscenely.

Have no idea what you talking about.