Originally Posted by Guest

Yes you are correct but in this same 24 hour period how many good or innocent guys are room temperature because a bad guy was able to secure a gun so easily?

If those "good or innocent guys" were carrying, they would probably be alive. Bad guys are bad guys because they do not recognize the law. You will not change the bad guy by making restrictive laws for the good guy.

Originally Posted by Guest

If those "good or innocent guys" were carrying, they would probably be alive. Bad guys are bad guys because they do not recognize the law. You will not change the bad guy by making restrictive laws for the good guy.

They just don't get it...a crazy white guy shooting the place up happens less than 1% of the time. MOST gun deaths...h3ll...most killings period are committed by minorities...80% at the least. MOST inner city crime and even many murders are never reported. Criminals when robbed/beat don't usually report it. When gang members are killed, it's not always reported. The body is dumped.

The "crime problem" is a "minority problem".

Originally Posted by Guest

What is registration going to accomplish?

Without a very strong stop and frisk and severe penalties for carrying without a license not much. You would also have to make concealed carry a little more difficult to license. You would still want to give "qualifies and vetted" citizens to ability to conceal carry but it is much to easy. There are thousands of felons out there who have not been convicted yet that can purchase and carry a firearm, you see them shooting at each other at stop lights. The second amendment has been twisted so much it is not recognizable. WE need to do something besides make more guns for good guys.

Originally Posted by Guest

Without a very strong stop and frisk and severe penalties for carrying without a license not much. You would also have to make concealed carry a little more difficult to license. You would still want to give "qualifies and vetted" citizens to ability to conceal carry but it is much to easy. There are thousands of felons out there who have not been convicted yet that can purchase and carry a firearm, you see them shooting at each other at stop lights. The second amendment has been twisted so much it is not recognizable. WE need to do something besides make more guns for good guys.

If you went into the inner cities and stopped and frisk, every other minority you stopped would be arrested...how will you explain locking up 1/2 the minorities in the city? WHERE will you put them?

The "gun problem" is a problem with minorities having guns. Those thugs, those "felons" are minorities...not white people.

Originally Posted by Paper1

Without a very strong stop and frisk and severe penalties for carrying without a license not much. You would also have to make concealed carry a little more difficult to license. You would still want to give "qualifies and vetted" citizens to ability to conceal carry but it is much to easy. There are thousands of felons out there who have not been convicted yet that can purchase and carry a firearm, you see them shooting at each other at stop lights. The second amendment has been twisted so much it is not recognizable. WE need to do something besides make more guns for good guys.

Stop and frisk? That has been deemed racially biased. Cops, even African American and Hispanic Latino cops, would seldom stop and frisk a Caucasian American. This is due to the fact that the minorities are statistically shown as the most likely offender. So that is something Jesse Jackass and Al Shrapnel would be vocally against. They would say they don't want those people targeted. I feel they don't want those people vindicated and improve their position in the social status. (if they were frisked and were not breaking laws the majority of the time, that would prove the bias was unwarranted, that would end Jesse and Al's crusade. They would rather keep everyone where they are in the social ladder, so they can continue to extort)...

Much too easy? Why do we need to make it harder for good guys to get concealed carry? Illinois requires 16 hours of classroom instruction and a shooting proficiency test from 3 distances (believe they need 85% or better to pass). Florida requires an 8 hour safety class. The concealed carry group is not committing crimes, the bad guys are certainly not taking any safety courses and the bad guys are not getting concealed carry...

Those thousands of felons have to lie on the firearm registration if they tried to purchase a firearm...there is a wait period between purchase and possession...that time is supposed to allow state police to do background check on the purchaser. That felon should have been exposed in the process, either the police made an error (the people you want to be doing the stop and frisk) or the felon did not aquire the firearm legally...

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Originally Posted by Guest

If you went into the inner cities and stopped and frisk, every other minority you stopped would be arrested...how will you explain locking up 1/2 the minorities in the city? WHERE will you put them?

The "gun problem" is a problem with minorities having guns. Those thugs, those "felons" are minorities...not white people.

Quite exaggerated. My guess would be 1/50 would be armed with a firearm. More would have mace or some other defensive tool.

Originally Posted by guessingwackadoodle

Quite exaggerated. My guess would be 1/50 would be armed with a firearm. More would have mace or some other defensive tool.

Thanks for sharing your guess...and attempting to minimize (or discount) the weapons as "defensive tool"...


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Originally Posted by Guest

Quite exaggerated. My guess would be 1/50 would be armed with a firearm. More would have mace or some other defensive tool.

There are more guns in America than people...over 300 million.

The majority of the guns are found in the inner cities. Just about EVERYONE from men to women, all races...carry when they live in the "bad parts" of town.

WHY?

""If you had to break it down [why inner cities youths get guns], a quarter of it is for drugs, a quarter for gangs … fifty percent in general would be for survival, because you know there are a lot of wolves in your city and you refuse to be that one sheep that just gets taken for everything. So, you know in your heart you’re a good guy, and you don’t intend on hurting anybody, but the next man may hurt you - you're gonna get a gun. "

- Sean Hawkins, a former Baltimore gang member"