Richie,

You had agreed in an earlier posting that you were Pro-Choice. You had stated that you would not force a young girl to have a child. You stated it is a woman's choice and it is between her and God. That is exactly right. Keep politicians and legislation out of the mix. You got it completely right.

Originally Posted by buggyone

Richie,

You had agreed in an earlier posting that you were Pro-Choice. You had stated that you would not force a young girl to have a child. You stated it is a woman's choice and it is between her and God. That is exactly right. Keep politicians and legislation out of the mix. You got it completely right.

Nope, I did not. I said I "couldn't stop her". I never, ever said the next phrase you wrote. You've misinterpreted it.

I would never in any context be in favor of the killing of the most innocent of humanity. I only acquiesce because for now I live in "man's world", and man in his imperfection has gone down this dark road, and I am but one.

But I speak while I may, and organize when I can, and try to change minds if I can.

Originally Posted by KatzPajamas

I don't base my opinion on religion. You only assume that because you know me to be a Chrisitan. On this forum, I have addressed the issue of abortion from the scientific standpoint 99.9% of the time. I was a scientist long before a Christian...I base my opinion on scientific fact and definition of life. But that is OK. No offense taken.

I hate to say it, but there's life and there's "life".

I wouldn't argue for a moment that all the ingredients are there from the moment of conception for a unique individual. THat's pure science - although even then you can split hairs since it takes some time for the chromosomes to mix.

But the abortion argument is usually constructed over laws - when to allow or ban then, what circumstances, etc. And that's where I was getting at. At what point do the laws step in...

Originally Posted by djplong

I hate to say it, but there's life and there's "life".I wouldn't argue for a moment that all the ingredients are there from the moment of conception for a unique individual. THat's pure science - although even then you can split hairs since it takes some time for the chromosomes to mix.

But the abortion argument is usually constructed over laws - when to allow or ban then, what circumstances, etc. And that's where I was getting at. At what point do the laws step in...

What is the difference between life and "life"?????? Assuming your statement is correct and there is a difference, who has the right to decide one is more valuable than the other?

Originally Posted by RichieLion

You're kidding right? You're leaving it to a legislator to tell you when a life begins?; or to put it another way, when you have the right to your life?
This is a very scary argument, in my view.

I'm the one who's been addressing religion in this discussion. I think you've misunderstood the basis of my argument. I am addressing those who already consider themselves to be "children of God" and who profess to be Christian by accepting Christ as their savior.

Those who fit that description and who also support or advocate a "women's right to choose", or in other words a women's right to kill the life growing inside of her, have to accept the hypocrisy of this in light of their "faith" which prohibits this act under penalty of eternal damnation.

If religion is a "myth" to you, then I am not addressing this to you.

Thank you for clarifying. I should do the same..

As I put in another response, I was looking at the debate from the standpoint of when was the point in time that the law gets involved.

In a perfect world, every fetus, zygote or blastocyte would be wanted, nourished and have a fair shot at birth - but we all know that doesn't happen.

And I wanted to be clear in my comment about "myth" - that you cannot (in many cases) DISprove it, either. But, to point out the extreme, you don't want to get into things like the Salem Witch Trials. Law *should* be based on mutually agreeable facts. (Again, we know that doesn't always happen)