Originally Posted by rubicon

Here we go with the alinsky tactics again.

This young woman made an unbias, logical and unemotional presentation clearly spelling out the cause(s) of poverty.

These are the same principles spoken by say Herman Cain. Was he the child from a wealthy family? We all have witnessed the courage of severely disabled people who have overcome many obstacles to live comfortable lives such as Dr. CharlesKruthammer . Conversely normal healthy people who feel entitled and in fact demand it.

I continue to ponder this question "Why do some people work so hard to disprove that a free market system is the best way out of poverty?

The most important aspect of this video points to the fact that America is at a crossroads. Do they want the European model or push to to keep us as a free enterprise system?

Go European.

I spent a major portion of my adult life in Europe. They have a much safer and better lifestyle than most American have. I do fine in America because I am a rich white man, but if you are not, this is not a place to live the good life.

Here we go again....Stupidski tactics.

Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica

Let's see the topic was:

How the Was on Poverty Was Lost

Well, could be that we ran out of poor people, no, thant did not happen.

Then maybe we ran out of granades to throw at poor people, no still have pelenty of those.

Then maybe it might be the education that public schools are now teaching. Yep, that's what happened.

Couldn't agree more. Need to add that this young lady holds the same opinions as my son (24) and daughter (26), who are neither from a wealthy family nor the products of public education!

There is a basic truism.

If you subsidize something, you get more of it.

Think about that.

Originally Posted by The Villager II

Go European.

I spent a major portion of my adult life in Europe. They have a much safer and better lifestyle than most American have. I do fine in America because I am a rich white man, but if you are not, this is not a place to live the good life.

Let's see it seems "I am entitled to my benefits" young Brits rioted like spoiled children recently. It seems PM Cameron recently made it clear that they are going to reduce the number of immgrants to their country. Europeans and even the liberal oriented Hollanders are fighting against the rapid advancement of the Muslim cultural into their society. Europeans are so heavily government subsidised that its breaking their economic backs. We complain about our corrupt system but by comparison most of the european governments make us look like pikers.

Finally I don't believe you really meant what you said because I read many of your other posts and you are intelligent. You may want to reconsider and thank God you live in America despite some of its minor blemishes.

Villager II, I guess you missed Europe in the 70s and 80s. Remember the Red Bridgade and Badder Meinhof gang. Not as safe as you think since they were killing people and blowing things up.

One of the reasons I retired and did not stay in Germany was because of them. Got tired of every morning crawling around my car checking for bombs, and was really glad that I was fortunate enough to be authorized to be armed all the time by the U. S. military and the German Government.

After 13 years in Europe I was glad to be back in the United States. Glad that you are a rich white man, but rich or poor life in the US is much better than any place in Europe.

Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica

Villager II, I guess you missed Europe in the 70s and 80s. Remember the Red Bridgade and Badder Meinhof gang. Not as safe as you think since they were killing people and blowing things up.

One of the reasons I retired and did not stay in Germany was because of them. Got tired of every morning crawling around my car checking for bombs, and was really glad that I was fortunate enough to be authorized to be armed all the time by the U. S. military and the German Government.

After 13 years in Europe I was glad to be back in the United States. Glad that you are a rich white man, but rich or poor life in the US is much better than any place in Europe.

OK.

Originally Posted by rubicon

Let's see it seems "I am entitled to my benefits" young Brits rioted like spoiled children recently. It seems PM Cameron recently made it clear that they are going to reduce the number of immgrants to their country. Europeans and even the liberal oriented Hollanders are fighting against the rapid advancement of the Muslim cultural into their society. Europeans are so heavily government subsidised that its breaking their economic backs. We complain about our corrupt system but by comparison most of the european governments make us look like pikers.

Finally I don't believe you really meant what you said because I read many of your other posts and you are intelligent. You may want to reconsider and thank God you live in America despite some of its minor blemishes.

Ya nailed me Rubicon. I thought someone would say GO BACK TO EUROPE but no one did. I like to say things that at least make people think. So many of us have never been overseas nor in a ghetto, have never been poor etc. etc. yet talk with such authority on issues they know nothing about and it is so obvious that they allow themselves to stereotype groups. I have lived overseas, worked with folks that lived most of their lives in ghettos and last but not least, I have been very poor and feel I have a rounded background on a lot of the issues this thread touches on, so yes When I see a brick wall, I throw sarcasm at it just to keep my own sanity. SO::::: I am a conservative, but will always take the side of the underdog even when that is a Liberal Democrat when they are being brutally attacked by the 6 PAC. I will do that even when I agree with the 6 PAC on the issue, because it is just WRONG to gang up on anyone.

Why would any one tell you to go to Europe? If you decided that Europe was a better place to live and YOU decided you want to go there, go, but never would I will you to go there. That would have to be your decision.

Having been in third world countries and all over Europe, there is no place like the US of A. Even with all our faults, this is the best place to live, just ask all those foreigners that want to come to the US of A. We must be doing something right or they would all stay home.

Now tell me how any of your posts related to "How The War On Poverty Was Lost?"

Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica

Why would any one tell you to go to Europe? If you decided that Europe was a better place to live and YOU decided you want to go there, go, but never would I will you to go there. That would have to be your decision.

Having been in third world countries and all over Europe, there is no place like the US of A. Even with all our faults, this is the best place to live, just ask all those foreigners that want to come to the US of A. We must be doing something right or they would all stay home.

Now tell me how any of your posts related to "How The War On Poverty Was Lost?"

I thought someone would say GO BACK TO EUROPE but no one did. I like to say things that at least make people think. So many of us have never been overseas nor in a ghetto, have never been poor etc. etc. yet talk with such authority on issues they know nothing about and it is so obvious that they allow themselves to stereotype groups. I have lived overseas, worked with folks that lived most of their lives in ghettos and last but not least, I have been very poor and feel I have a rounded background on a lot of the issues this thread touches on, so yes When I see a brick wall, I throw sarcasm at it just to keep my own sanity. SO::::: I am a conservative, but will always take the side of the underdog even when that is a Liberal Democrat when they are being brutally attacked by the 6 PAC. I will do that even when I agree with the 6 PAC on the issue, because it is just WRONG to gang up on anyone.

Originally Posted by The Villager II

I thought someone would say GO BACK TO EUROPE but no one did. I like to say things that at least make people think. So many of us have never been overseas nor in a ghetto, have never been poor etc. etc. yet talk with such authority on issues they know nothing about and it is so obvious that they allow themselves to stereotype groups. I have lived overseas, worked with folks that lived most of their lives in ghettos and last but not least, I have been very poor and feel I have a rounded background on a lot of the issues this thread touches on, so yes When I see a brick wall, I throw sarcasm at it just to keep my own sanity. SO::::: I am a conservative, but will always take the side of the underdog even when that is a Liberal Democrat when they are being brutally attacked by the 6 PAC. I will do that even when I agree with the 6 PAC on the issue, because it is just WRONG to gang up on anyone.

Not sure who the 6 PAC is, but I would never tell you, a fellow biker, what to do...Especially not in CAPITAL letters! One never knows which side of the fence you are going to come from on any given issue at any given time. That keeps me thinking, so I guess you have succeeded!

Originally Posted by The Villager II

I thought someone would say GO BACK TO EUROPE but no one did. I like to say things that at least make people think. So many of us have never been overseas nor in a ghetto, have never been poor etc. etc. yet talk with such authority on issues they know nothing about and it is so obvious that they allow themselves to stereotype groups. I have lived overseas, worked with folks that lived most of their lives in ghettos and last but not least, I have been very poor and feel I have a rounded background on a lot of the issues this thread touches on, so yes When I see a brick wall, I throw sarcasm at it just to keep my own sanity. SO::::: I am a conservative, but will always take the side of the underdog even when that is a Liberal Democrat when they are being brutally attacked by the 6 PAC. I will do that even when I agree with the 6 PAC on the issue, because it is just WRONG to gang up on anyone.

Exaggeration. Brutally attacked? Sounds like a drama queen.

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

Exaggeration. Brutally attacked? Sounds like a drama queen.

Nah, reminds me why I hate watching sports with the mother-in-law in the room. Once our team begins to win (a rare occurence in itself), the mother-in-law begins to feel sorry for the other team and thus cheers for the them!

Originally Posted by KatzPajamas

Not sure who the 6 PAC is, but I would never tell you, a fellow biker, what to do...Especially not in CAPITAL letters! One never knows which side of the fence you are going to come from on any given issue at any given time. That keeps me thinking, so I guess you have succeeded!

The 6 PAC is the term that the intellectually challenged among the liberals on this forum have come up with in which they believe they're demeaning the conservative posters who expose their duplicity with amazing regularity.

The fact that The Villager II (name remarkably similar to the ousted VillagerII) is also promoting this designation, and also talks of phantom "vicious attacks" by conservative posters is highly suspicious for someone who claims to be "conservative".

I'm just saying.

It is my personal belief that being conservative does not give me the right to insult people using any bullying tactic, like calling them intellectually challenged. I often disagree with liberals, but does that mean they are the one that is stupid. I think not. Many of the liberals on this board come from a very diverse background with worldly travels and higher educational experiences than us conservatives. With that in mind, this conservative is of the opinion, since I am not the all knowing GOD, they may just be right. Now that does not change my opinion of them, but it does give me reason to hold my comments down to civil debate rather than childish slander. I'm just saying.

NOTE: I have been here for 5 years, but I never heard of villagerII. I wanted The Villager, but it was taken so I used the villager II