Originally Posted by ilovetv

OH, MISTER........You don't want to go there. It is Your Guy, Obama, who has made this ad that tells Black America, "Just come on over and Vote by Color".....as if they are "too slow minded to THINK FOR THEMSELVES"!!!!!!

He condescends from his "erudite" ivory tower to lord over them and talk down to them......and to us "dumb hillbillies" who cling to our Bibles and guns.

That's a pretty accurate description ......

Certainly can't refudiate that.

no one has answered my question yet. And as a point of fact there are these various support groups for Romney...Catholics for Romney,Hispanics for Romney,Jews for Romney and finally.....yes there is African-Americans for Romney. So same question for you,is Romney a racist?

Please tell me why or why not you feel this campaign is not racist.

OOO! ME ME ME! I want to answer!

Because it is on page one of the leftist, protect Obama handbook.
If you don't know the answer or the other side has a point you must turn the tables on them and accuse them of the same thing only with more force and twist the facts.

It has worked perfect for the Chief Community Organizer.

Pure and simple, it IS racist. Put "white" in front of any organization and it is called racist. Put any other race in front of the same word and they are held up as an example of how it should be done in this big melting pot to even everything out and to pay back to these groups for sins of our fathers with which none of us had anything to do with and none of them had any connection to.

Originally Posted by waynet

no one has answered my question yet. And as a point of fact there are these various support groups for Romney...Catholics for Romney,Hispanics for Romney,Jews for Romney and finally.....yes there is African-Americans for Romney. So same question for you,is Romney a racist?

It what you say is correct and there are groups supporting Romney; are you saying that Romney created these groups in the same way as President Obama is creating a "blacks for Obama" group?

Originally Posted by RichieLion

You answered the question, "If it was African-Americans for Romney, would it be racist?" as follows...

This never happens. You know why? Because those who would be Republican supporters are just that; Republican supporters. They may refer to themselves in a public dialog as a "black conservative", but they don't need to join a "black group". There are a goodly number of black conservatives involved in the Tea Party movement.

Black liberals organize blacks into racial groups, not conservatives. They promise them goodies aimed at people of their complexion, and tell them there's more where that came from if they would just vote along racial lines for candidates who promote a racial agenda.

This is why the liberals, or Democrats, are the true racist minded political party.

Hmmm, it didn't take too much looking to find the National Black Republican Association. Herman Cain was a member.

Here's a link, Richie. http://www.nbra.info/

But I know there must be some mistake...they must be Republicans but not conservatives, right?

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

Hmmm, it didn't take too much looking to find the National Black Republican Association. Herman Cain was a member.

Here's a link, Richie. National Black Republican Association | National Black Republican Association

But I know there must be some mistake...they must be Republicans but not conservatives, right?

These groups must be so low key that I never heard of them. At least unlike the more boisterous liberal groups these Republican groups are not founded with the purpose of gaining advantage by taking others labor in a confiscatory scheme.

It does not surprise me that you took the time to do this.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

...It does not surprise me that you took the time to do this.

Just responding to your statement that only liberals/Democrats organize race-based groups, while conservatives never do so. I guess the lesson is that using the the words "always" or "never" often demonstrates that what is alleged is often wrong.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

These groups must be so low key that I never heard of them. At least unlike the more boisterous liberal groups these Republican groups are not founded with the purpose of gaining advantage by taking others labor in a confiscatory scheme.

It does not surprise me that you took the time to do this.

Missing links????

My husband usually adds "as far as I know" to his "pronouncements" to keep himself out of trouble in a discussion. The challenge is that generalizers are not always aware that they are generalizing. It is not wrong to generalize, just a style of communication. We all do it to some degree, just as we all distort or delete in our everyday communication. It's just that we usually do one more than the others and generalizing is pretty easy to spot. So "as far as I know" covers it and was a good example set for me who is prone to generalizing.

Don't mean to be preachy. Just thought some of you might be interested to know a way to communicate with generalizations or generalizers and still keep the dialogue calm. Then again, some seem to like a good "heated" debate!
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why do some continue to make these vast generalizations about Democrats that cannot be proven then to make matters worse make more vast generalizations that their side does not do these things. It is just not true. All groups want a piece of the pie that goes to the winner. If the republican wins these groups will come knocking on the door,the same if a Dem wins. To say that one groups motives are honorable and the other groups are devious is pure nonsense.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

Just responding to your statement that only liberals/Democrats organize race-based groups, while conservatives never do so. I guess the lesson is that using the the words "always" or "never" often demonstrates that what is alleged is often wrong.

Glad you took time out from your busy day to try to prove me wrong. I still don't think the "spirit" of my post was wrong, but technically I guess you're right that there are conservative groups of people who've aligned for networking among peers for a political advantage or business gain.

Still, these conservative groups are more about their success in the arena of business affairs and not the parasite mentality of the majority of liberal gatherings. IMHO.

That's was the point I was trying to advance in my earlier post.

Originally Posted by waynet

why do some continue to make these vast generalizations about Democrats that cannot be proven then to make matters worse make more vast generalizations that their side does not do these things. It is just not true. All groups want a piece of the pie that goes to the winner. If the republican wins these groups will come knocking on the door,the same if a Dem wins. To say that one groups motives are honorable and the other groups are devious is pure nonsense.

The big difference is that liberals see the size of the pie as finite. Thus, they feel they must demand that others decrease the size of their hard fought slice in order to leave some to those who don't have the will or the aptitude to fight for a slice.

Conservatives see the pie as ever expanding if you have the will to produce it.

If you don't realize that you just put forth a Marxist principle; you need to read what you just wrote again.

I'm sure that many voted for Obama because of the color of his skin.

I'm sure the same held true for McCain.

I know why I voted the way I did. I'm disappointed that those conditions don't seem to have changed.

Let me say what no one is saying in this Thread:

To set the stage, I was raised in a farming community in Iowa.
Everyone I new and I new them all, were prejudice to Blacks.
We all had dozens of N jokes to tell.


Do I think that Obama is prejudice: NO
He is only doing openly what so many of us do silently. Blacks have made great improvements in equality in the last 50 years, but are without a doubt, still second class citizens to the majority. I voted for Obama because I thought he was the right man for the job. I am trying to vote for Romney this year, but keep getting slapped back toward Obama by some ridiculous comments on this forum by hard core conservative.

I tell you now, open up your mind to the truth, or Obama will be in for four more years more because of conservative prejudice than because of his record.

Obama is not stupid, he is not a Muslim, he is not a Kenyan, he is a liberal democrat trying to change this country for the better in his opinion. Now simply repeat this and then add your opinion and I will think about it and make my decision. Start off with a stupid comment about him and you are discounted immediately.

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