Originally Posted by Guest

I will take back the disenfranchise minority comment, since the two example I gave are examples of minorities being disenfranchised.

Totally wrong.

There is no evidence that requiring a photo ID is difficult for anyone. I dare you to find someone that does NOT have one already. If a person can get out to vote, or register to vote absentee, then they can obtain a photo ID. Is it suddenly impossible for the liberal bus to be used to take the voter to obtain an ID? The buses are sure available when they want the vote. Anyone that says voter ID disenfranchises minorities is admitting to being racist. You are saying that only blacks don't have the ability to obtain an ID.

Yes, there is plenty of evidence of voter fraud. There are plenty of people that vote in one state and then vote in another. There is evidence of voters voting twice. I know one person of many in NC that vote for their parents. His father is a Democrat and he is a Republican, so he votes once Republican for himself and then again for his father. They don't ask for anything at the polls other than you address.

What is a voter registration card's purpose? They sure don't ask for it when you vote.

Anyone that says that it's impossible to obtain an ID is a liar. I don't know of anyone that doesn't already have one. And the states that passed a law for photo ID also made it easier to the voter to obtain an ID.

Democrats are the party of "impossible." They say it is impossible to deport a few million criminal invaders/illegal aliens, and they say it is impossible to prove voter fraud, and they say it is impossible to prevent abortions, and it's impossible to prevent drug abuse, but they think it is possible to control a billion legally owned guns. If not for the government, liberals would all be rolled up in a ball, sucking their thumbs.

Originally Posted by Guest

Totally wrong.

There is no evidence that requiring a photo ID is difficult for anyone. I dare you to find someone that does NOT have one already. If a person can get out to vote, or register to vote absentee, then they can obtain a photo ID. Is it suddenly impossible for the liberal bus to be used to take the voter to obtain an ID? The buses are sure available when they want the vote. Anyone that says voter ID disenfranchises minorities is admitting to being racist. You are saying that only blacks don't have the ability to obtain an ID.

Yes, there is plenty of evidence of voter fraud. There are plenty of people that vote in one state and then vote in another. There is evidence of voters voting twice. I know one person of many in NC that vote for their parents. His father is a Democrat and he is a Republican, so he votes once Republican for himself and then again for his father. They don't ask for anything at the polls other than you address.

What is a voter registration card's purpose? They sure don't ask for it when you vote.

Anyone that says that it's impossible to obtain an ID is a liar. I don't know of anyone that doesn't already have one. And the states that passed a law for photo ID also made it easier to the voter to obtain an ID.

Democrats are the party of "impossible." They say it is impossible to deport a few million criminal invaders/illegal aliens, and they say it is impossible to prove voter fraud, and they say it is impossible to prevent abortions, and it's impossible to prevent drug abuse, but they think it is possible to control a billion legally owned guns. If not for the government, liberals would all be rolled up in a ball, sucking their thumbs.

Totally wrong. For the tenth time, explain the republican Penn. Speaker of the House comment, after voter id law was passed in Penn, "We just gave Penn. to Romney."

If you can't or won't answer the question, then you know that almost everything you said is wrong.

Originally Posted by Guest

Totally wrong. For the tenth time, explain the republican Penn. Speaker of the House comment, after voter id law was passed in Penn, "We just gave Penn. to Romney."

If you can't or won't answer the question, then you know that almost everything you said is wrong.

You brought up the comment regarding that PA statement. Why would I know what he meant? Other than trying to hijack the conversation and divert the subject, who cares what you think? Are you going to vote for a conservative?

As far as I know, someone making that statement is just giving an opinion. What do you think was meant? Never mind, because I am not interested in your response, because you will probably make some equally ludicrous comment about the weather.

Why is it so inconvenient or discriminating to require an ID to prove citizenship?

Why is it not inconvenient or discriminating when the following ALL REQUIRE ID:

cash a check
use a credit card
buy liquor
see the doctor
get into the hospital
get into the rec centers in TV

just to name a very few.

We all know the answer right? Bingo. None of the above or the rest that could be on the list have anything to do with rigging the vote results!!

Wow.......an academic discussion on the Electoral College really went astray.

Might I also add...if I hear one more time about an aside comment made in Pa a bit ago concerning voter id, I am flat out...well, not sure, but I never hear the asides from the President or the VP ever. They are, as they should be, a one day news item just for interest and then gone.

Originally Posted by Guest

You brought up the comment regarding that PA statement. Why would I know what he meant? Other than trying to hijack the conversation and divert the subject, who cares what you think? Are you going to vote for a conservative?

As far as I know, someone making that statement is just giving an opinion. What do you think was meant? Never mind, because I am not interested in your response, because you will probably make some equally ludicrous comment about the weather.

Why would you know what he meant? Do you have a problem recognizing the obvious? Try reading this.

Judge strikes down Pennsylvania voter ID law - CNNPolitics.com

I am voting for John Kasich. Isn't he a conservative?

As far as changing the subject, go back and read the posts on this thread. Please tell me, who changed the subject!

Originally Posted by Guest

Why is it so inconvenient or discriminating to require an ID to prove citizenship?

Why is it not inconvenient or discriminating when the following ALL REQUIRE ID:

cash a check
use a credit card
buy liquor
see the doctor
get into the hospital
get into the rec centers in TV

just to name a very few.

We all know the answer right? Bingo. None of the above or the rest that could be on the list have anything to do with rigging the vote results!!

Require an ID? They are not requiring an ID. The states with strict voter id laws are asking for a picture ID to obtain a voter id. One state won't accept a college picture id, but would accept a gun permit id.

States were accepting electric bills, gas bills, etc. at the polling booth before allowing people to vote. What was acceptable in the past is not acceptable now.

Originally Posted by Guest

Wow.......an academic discussion on the Electoral College really went astray.

Might I also add...if I hear one more time about an aside comment made in Pa a bit ago concerning voter id, I am flat out...well, not sure, but I never hear the asides from the President or the VP ever. They are, as they should be, a one day news item just for interest and then gone.

Changing the subject here is a constant state of being on this board.

Concerning the Penn. House leader comment being a one day event, it was a one day event that hit the courts.

Originally Posted by Guest

Changing the subject here is a constant state of being on this board.

Concerning the Penn. House leader comment being a one day event, it was a one day event that hit the courts.

I will need to see a link that ties THAT COMMENT to any court ruling.

You know it didn't so why make things up ?

Originally Posted by Guest

I will need to see a link that ties THAT COMMENT to any court ruling.

You know it didn't so why make things up ?

This guy, in his rambling, unrelated posts is lucky in a way. He is not restricted by a need to deal with facts...he will simply type gibberish and then tell you he is not progressive, and how he will vote conservative.

He will vote for whomever his progressive sites and the Democratic Party tell him to vote for.

Originally Posted by Guest

This guy, in his rambling, unrelated posts is lucky in a way. He is not restricted by a need to deal with facts...he will simply type gibberish and then tell you he is not progressive, and how he will vote conservative.

He will vote for whomever his progressive sites and the Democratic Party tell him to vote for.

......He is a liberal troll that attempts to divert from the topic because in his ignorance, he has no substance to add to the conversation. His trying to convince us that he is a conservative is about as credible as that girl out West trying to make the NAACP believe she is black, or Bruce Jenner posing as a female. Only they believe their ploys.

Originally Posted by Guest

......He is a liberal troll that attempts to divert from the topic because in his ignorance, he has no substance to add to the conversation. His trying to convince us that he is a conservative is about as credible as that girl out West trying to make the NAACP believe she is black, or Bruce Jenner posing as a female. Only they believe their ploys.

Dear guest:

Au contraire the astute political pundits Whoopie Goldberg, Joy Behar et al of The View believe that the ex-president of the NAACP Chapter in Oregon is black and that despite his DNA Bruce Jenner is female. They all have shouted their strong support for their causes. Does anyone need any further proof? They all also acknowledge that the allegation of voter fraud is a conservative conspiracy meant to frustrate the voting process. that's their story and their sticking to it.

Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by Guest

Require an ID? They are not requiring an ID. The states with strict voter id laws are asking for a picture ID to obtain a voter id. One state won't accept a college picture id, but would accept a gun permit id.

States were accepting electric bills, gas bills, etc. at the polling booth before allowing people to vote. What was acceptable in the past is not acceptable now.

You don't need a background investigation for a college ID. You do with a gun permit. Duhhhh!!!

Originally Posted by Guest

I will need to see a link that ties THAT COMMENT to any court ruling.

You know it didn't so why make things up ?

Unbelievable. The link is on post 21.

Originally Posted by Guest

......He is a liberal troll that attempts to divert from the topic because in his ignorance, he has no substance to add to the conversation. His trying to convince us that he is a conservative is about as credible as that girl out West trying to make the NAACP believe she is black, or Bruce Jenner posing as a female. Only they believe their ploys.

Who the hell said I was a conservative? You have to imply that I am a liberal troll, so you can ignore the truth. The Truth being that the Republicans are never wrong. They are never responsible for anything. Anyone that doesn't agree with them is a moron. To compromise is a sign of weakest. To lower yourself to even talk to them shows that you feel sorry for them.

I am a moderate independent talking to people that refuse to talk to anyone, but their own. The reason that I like Kasich is his experience at both the federal and state levels. He accepted the Medicaid provision for the ACA against the wishes of his party, and for people that need help paying for health insurance.

Keep up the name calling! It really fits.