Originally Posted by hulababy

Those of you making less than 250,000 a yr grab something - here it comes!! Taxes A whole list of them - and that's what made this whole GOVERNMENT CONTROL SCHEME LEGAL!! Exactly what Obama promised you would NEVER happen WILL HAPPEN!! WAKE UP AMERICA. THIS WILL IMPACT YOU IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE.

WE ARE LOSING OUR COUNTRY TO GOVERNMENT CONTROL. IF THEY GOV'T CAN MAKE YOU PURCHASE HEALTH INSURANCE THEY WILL MAKE YOU PURCHASE SOLAR PANELS NEXT FOR YOUR HOME AND ON AND ON AND ON!!

IF YOU VOTED FOR THIS CLOWN I HOPE YOU HAVE WOKEN UP BY NOW!! Your individual freedoms are being STRIPPED AWAY VERY RAPIDLY!!!

Originally Posted by njbchbum

janmcn - here's a site where you can find some taxes and tax credits:
Affordable Care Act Tax Provisions
i got a headache reading them!!! ya gotta click on all those hilighted links to get the details!

I would rather have the OP post her list of them that she claims, in clear and concise language that I can understand, than click on some unknown link.
Still waiting???????????????????????????

Originally Posted by janmcn

I would rather have the OP post her list of them that she claims, in clear and concise language that I can understand, than click on some unknown link.
Still waiting???????????????????????????

will make a note of that and try not to assist with providing you info when not directly asked again. sorry to try to help.

Originally Posted by hulababy

Those of you making less than 250,000 a yr grab something - here it comes!! Taxes A whole list of them - and that's what made this whole GOVERNMENT CONTROL SCHEME LEGAL!! Exactly what Obama promised you would NEVER happen WILL HAPPEN!! WAKE UP AMERICA. THIS WILL IMPACT YOU IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE.

WE ARE LOSING OUR COUNTRY TO GOVERNMENT CONTROL. IF THEY GOV'T CAN MAKE YOU PURCHASE HEALTH INSURANCE THEY WILL MAKE YOU PURCHASE SOLAR PANELS NEXT FOR YOUR HOME AND ON AND ON AND ON!!

IF YOU VOTED FOR THIS CLOWN I HOPE YOU HAVE WOKEN UP BY NOW!! Your individual freedoms are being STRIPPED AWAY VERY RAPIDLY!!!

Suggest you move to Syria. If you don't like the Government in your new homeland anymore than you seem to like America just raise your voice and they will kill you! That will put an end to your problems with governmant.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

Obama's Department of Justice ignoring and not investigating the Black Pather's involvement with polling place intimidations is "encouragement" by omission.

There's your truth Buggy.


Your health care positioning on coverage and taxes is plain naive and wrong. Everybody is going to lose their private health insurance in not to short an order. It'll be cheaper for companies to pay the fine (oops, I mean the "tax") than to carry employee coverage. Then the Feds take over. OH, it's a grand scheme and plan.

RichieLion, your faulty reasoning is just plain laughable. I am hoping your golf will be just as bad as your reasoning.

Originally Posted by buggyone

RichieLion, your faulty reasoning is just plain laughable. I am hoping your golf will be just as bad as your reasoning.

Explain what's wrong with my reasoning that the businesses who provide employee tax coverage will choose the cheaper route of pay the less costly fines (oops, I did it again, I mean taxes) than to provide the much more expensive health coverage.

I'll wait as you try to think of something to say.

Ah, you'll probably just talk about me again.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

Explain what's wrong with my reasoning that the businesses who provide employee tax coverage will choose the cheaper route of pay the less costly fines (oops, I did it again, I mean taxes) than to provide the much more expensive health coverage.

I'll wait as you try to think of something to say.

Ah, you'll probably just talk about me again.

Please invite me to your next palm reading, tea leaf reading, tarot card reading or seance with President Reagan. They must be clear and concise, you can see the future.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

Explain what's wrong with my reasoning that the businesses who provide employee tax coverage will choose the cheaper route of pay the less costly fines (oops, I did it again, I mean taxes) than to provide the much more expensive health coverage.

I'll wait as you try to think of something to say.

Ah, you'll probably just talk about me again.

I think it is a no brainer and that most agree that any company who has less than 50 employees will drop the insurance. That is just a fact of life....larger employers not so sure

Going to be stress for small retailers, restaurants and the like

Originally Posted by Posh 08

Please invite me to your next palm reading, tea leaf reading, tarot card reading or seance with President Reagan. They must be clear and concise, you can see the future.

It's just a bit of reasoning, is all. I might be wrong; maybe business owners in this age of Obamanation have become very altruistic and are not motivated by profit anymore.

I've been retired for over 4 years and things could have changed.

Originally Posted by Bucco;514***

I think it is a no brainer and that most agree that any company who has less than 50 employees will drop the insurance. That is just a fact of life....larger employers not so sure

Going to be stress for small retailers, restaurants and the like

There's another law that applies to the "will we or won't we" provide health insurance question. It's called the law of supply and demand.

A small company who makes the arithmetic decision that it would be cheaper to drop insurance as a benefit and simply pay the fine might over a short period of time find itself with a lot of employees leaving and a very difficult time replacing them with a poorly-thought out pay-and-benefits package.

Question. Does The Act specify how long an employee must be employed by "small business" before they must be insured?

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

There's another law that applies to the "will we or won't we" provide health insurance question. It's called the law of supply and demand.

A small company who makes the arithmetic decision that it would be cheaper to drop insurance as a benefit and simply pay the fine might over a short period of time find itself with a lot of employees leaving and a very difficult time replacing them with a poorly-thought out pay-and-benefits package.

I really believe for a number of reasons that job growth will just stop for a bit !!

Obama will raise your taxes directly or indirectly just a few examples
a "cadillac tax" on high cost plans, an individual mandate tax on americans who Do NOT purchase government approved health, an increase in the 7.5% AGI floor for medical expenses deductions to 10%, limits on flexible spending accounts in cafeteria plans, increased penalties for nonqualified HSA distributions, restrictions on health savings accounts, health reimbursement accounts and flexible spending accounts, a tax on tanning services, an employer mandate tax, a sales tax on medical devices, a tax on health insurance premiums, a tax on prescription drugs, a tax on insured and self insured health plans and on and on.
bottom line Doctors will leave practices, Employers will not hire because of health care laws, government will control you cradle to grave as Obama is aiming for, you Will have Medical rationing (and that's you Mr and mrs Senior citizens) long waits for surgeries, etc... Your losing your freedoms, your losing your choice, your losing access to the best healthcare system in the world. Are you beginning to get the picture??? Probably NOT Mr Obama wants government control - TOTAL CONTROL - That's what Dictators like this Socialist in Chief will accomplish if re-elected.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

There's another law that applies to the "will we or won't we" provide health insurance question. It's called the law of supply and demand.

A small company who makes the arithmetic decision that it would be cheaper to drop insurance as a benefit and simply pay the fine might over a short period of time find itself with a lot of employees leaving and a very difficult time replacing them with a poorly-thought out pay-and-benefits package.

First of all; you've called it a "fine", when InJustice Roberts has rewritten the Bill in order to classify it a "tax". It's a tax, now.

Second, in this Obamaconomy, where are the employees going? To other employers who are doing or probably will be doing the same thing as not carrying employee health insurance becomes de rigueur and standard practice?

Originally Posted by Posh 08

Question. Does The Act specify how long an employee must be employed by "small business" before they must be insured?

I'm under the impression that everyone must be insured in this new Obamareality.

Originally Posted by hulababy

Obama will raise your taxes directly or indirectly just a few examples
a "cadillac tax" on high cost plans, an individual mandate tax on americans who Do NOT purchase government approved health, an increase in the 7.5% AGI floor for medical expenses deductions to 10%, limits on flexible spending accounts in cafeteria plans, increased penalties for nonqualified HSA distributions, restrictions on health savings accounts, health reimbursement accounts and flexible spending accounts, a tax on tanning services, an employer mandate tax, a sales tax on medical devices, a tax on health insurance premiums, a tax on prescription drugs, a tax on insured and self insured health plans and on and on.
bottom line Doctors will leave practices, Employers will not hire because of health care laws, government will control you cradle to grave as Obama is aiming for, you Will have Medical rationing (and that's you Mr and mrs Senior citizens) long waits for surgeries, etc... Your losing your freedoms, your losing your choice, your losing access to the best healthcare system in the world. Are you beginning to get the picture??? Probably NOT Mr Obama wants government control - TOTAL CONTROL - That's what Dictators like this Socialist in Chief will accomplish if re-elected.

WHAT ?????????? I can tolerate a tax on everything you made up ... errr correctly stated - but a tax on tanning services?

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