Title XIX of the Social Security Act (part of the Social Security

Amendments of 1965) established the Medicaid program to

provide medical and health related services for individuals and

families with low incomes through direct payment to suppliers of

the program. Medicaid is the largest source of funds for medical

care and related services to our Nation’s poorest people.

INCLUDING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS

DON'T TRY AND SAY SOCIAL SECURITY DOES NOT FUND ILLEGALS.

Also, please try to use neutral sources.


Sorry for the caps

Originally Posted by Guest

Which lie in particular?

He lied about consulting with the Chicago police.

Perhaps reading everything before jumping into the fray may help

Originally Posted by Guest

Title XIX of the Social Security Act (part of the Social Security

Amendments of 1965) established the Medicaid program to

provide medical and health related services for individuals and

families with low incomes through direct payment to suppliers of

the program. Medicaid is the largest source of funds for medical

care and related services to our Nation’s poorest people.

INCLUDING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS

DON'T TRY AND SAY SOCIAL SECURITY DOES NOT FUND ILLEGALS.

Also, please try to use neutral sources.


Sorry for the caps

hopeless to talk rationally here..post 2 hit it on the head.

I have personally seen illegals abuse federal programs reserved for citizens countless times.



How Undocumented Immigrants Sometimes Receive Medicaid Treatment | PBS NewsHour

Originally Posted by Guest

I have personally seen illegals abuse federal programs reserved for citizens countless times.



How Undocumented Immigrants Sometimes Receive Medicaid Treatment | PBS NewsHour

Nobody ever said it was not ABUSED. Not the point at all.

Perhaps each poster should let everyone know what sources they will accept.

The Trump story has two sources and still not acceptable.

Amazing how generally speaking he is considered pathological with lying and on here he is just like Honest Abe

Although not provable to a non believer, I though empirical evidence, 30+ years of seeing, in NYC, with my own eyes illegals stealing federal, state and local services by many different methods. It is not limited to hispanics there are russians, Asians, etc. The identity fraud alone is incredible. In many instances one person in a family is legal and many receive services. I have seen it all, if you think there are checks and balances, think again.

These are only my facts. Sorry if you don't believe me

Originally Posted by Guest

I hope you realize how totally unacceptable your post is.

She met with far more than 154 people from private interests while Secy of State....far more.

Come on...get real..she was a senator, first lady, etc. I think more than 154 people....many many more....visited her. The Clintons are friends with a lot of people and your "fact" is that she met with 154 over the years as SSTATE ????

"Tuesday afternoon, Stephen Braun and Eileen Sullivan of the Associated Press released the results of a review of State Department appointment data that they used to make some striking claims about Hillary Clinton’s schedule as secretary of state.

According to their reporting, Clinton spent a remarkably large share of her time as America’s chief diplomat talking to people who had donated money to the Clinton Foundation. She went out of her way to help these Clinton Foundation donors, and her decision to do so raises important concerns about the ethics of her conduct as secretary and potentially as president. It’s a striking piece of reporting that made immediate waves in my social media feed, as political journalists of all stripes retweeted the story’s headline conclusions.

Except it turns out not to be true. The nut fact that the AP uses to lead its coverage is wrong, and Braun and Sullivan’s reporting reveals absolutely no unethical conduct. In fact, they found so little unethical conduct that an enormous amount of space is taken up by a detailed recounting of the time Clinton tried to help a former Nobel Peace Prize winner who’s also the recipient of a Congressional Gold Medal and a Presidential Medal of Freedom."

The AP’s big expose on Hillary meeting with Clinton Foundation donors is a mess - Vox

I AM TYPING IN CAPS BECAUSE I AM HOPING THIS LAST PART WILL AT LEAST GET A CURSORY GLANCE....

I am not a Clinton supporter, actually....well, it matters not. I refer to post #2 which is true. TOTALLY

The only way to get to real facts is do your own investigation and reading. Now, of course most....the largest majority of Americans are too lazy or brainwashed to do that, thus.......WE GET THE TWO CANDIDATES THAT WE HAVE IN THIS ELECTION.

Certainly anyone with any knowledge of facts would never vote for neither of these two.

A few examples......did you know....

"Donald Trump has real problems being truthful, as evidenced by the record number of “Pants on Fire” ratings he’s received from Politifact.

Now it seems Trump has flat-out fabricated an encounter he supposedly had with a “top” Chicago police officer.

NBC Chicago is reporting that the Chicago Police Department is pushing back on Trump’s claim that a “top” Chicago cop told him that the city’s violence could be stopped in a week if he were allowed to employ unspecified “tough police tactics.”

“We’ve discredited this claim months ago,” CPD spokesperson Frank Giancamilli said in a statement. “No one in the senior command at CPD has ever met with Donald Trump or a member of his campaign.”



"The Chicago Police Department on Tuesday denied Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump's claim that he met with a "top" Chicago officer and argued the city's violence would not be solved with "tough police tactics."
"We've discredited this claim months ago," CPD spokesperson Frank Giancamilli said in a statement. "No one in the senior command at CPD has ever met with Donald Trump or a member of his campaign."


Source: Police Respond to Donald Trump's Claim That Chicago's Violence Can Be Stopped In A Week | NBC Chicago Police Respond to Donald Trump's Claim That Chicago's Violence Can Be Stopped In A Week | NBC Chicago
Follow us: @nbcchicago on Twitter | nbcchicago on Facebook

Now if you support Trump, you buy into his lies and this is just another one to chew on and THINK you are informed but he lied to you all.

Then this.....

"The Trump Presidential campaign rolled out its first major television ad last week, aimed at voters in Florida, Ohio, North Carolina and Pennsylvania. For Social Security experts and advocates, it wasn’t worth waiting for.

“In Hillary Clinton’s America, the system stays rigged against Americans,” the ad declares. “Illegal immigrants convicted of committing crimes get to stay, collecting Social Security benefits, skipping the line.”

Bluntly speaking, these statements about Social Security are untrue.

Here are the lies about Social Security in Donald Trump's new nationwide ad - LA Times

So, again, Trump lied to you....you all ok with that ????

take caps and bold fonts and book a Tee time.

Stop it, too bad we can't set Ignore on these guest names

Originally Posted by Guest

take caps and bold fonts and book a Tee time.

Stop it, too bad we can't set Ignore on these guest names

Reading problem ? Immune to accepting information ?

[QUOTE=Guest;1277332]Why does every discussion turn into insults? Why do people state lies as fact? How about one thread with just facts.

Hint, just because David Brock from progressive site mediamatters.org says something, does not make it fact.


Dear Guest: The answer to this question requires one to go back quite a few years ago because there was a time when when being caught in a lie had consequences and created shame.

You can also blame the entertainment industry because once upon a time criminals i movies were seen as bad and bad meaning bad and ended up punished for their crimes. Over time bad meant good and bad meant cool and bad was so cool that punishment turned into reward and justly deserved.

there was also a time when most journalist had some sort of ethics and were good at fact finding. today they invent their stories do not know how to fact check and believe it is justified.

Education went from teaching people to think to teaching them to emote . Educators moved from subjects of importance the classics, studies in logic civics , etc to diversity studies gender studies, etc . today only 26% of high school students can pass the ACT's So what evolved is that these folks actually believe that name calling is their argument


admittedly this is just a brief outline but there is not enough space on this post or posters who are interested in reading a short book written by me.

Personal Best Regards:

That has NO POLITICAL leanings that is a good fact check... sounds like this website and Facebook could use it! Please answer without insults.

Originally Posted by Guest

That has NO POLITICAL leanings that is a good fact check... sounds like this website and Facebook could use it! Please answer without insults.

how to find fact checking sites - Google Search

Originally Posted by Guest

how to find fact checking sites - Google Search

Google is a left leaning, liberal search engine that provides priority to liberal sites. If you want balanced, you need to use a different search engine.

Originally Posted by Guest

Google is a left leaning, liberal search engine that provides priority to liberal sites. If you want balanced, you need to use a different search engine.

Or..novel idea,but it works...

Read BOTH sides and then investigate the facts that seem skewed by either side.

Most, and I mean 99% simply search until they find something they WANT TO AGREE WITH.

Most on this forum who say they KNOW or are INFORMED, stick with their comfort zone.

This election, you have two liars, one pathological....so nothing much will change without the traditional "October surprise".

And it WILL happen

Originally Posted by Guest

Google is a left leaning, liberal search engine that provides priority to liberal sites. If you want balanced, you need to use a different search engine.

how to find factr checking sites - Yahoo Search Results

You know everyone is right everyone is wrong everyone are liars everyone is crooked. I guess you get my drift. There really isnt anything to talk about. Bottom line vote and vote for the lesser of the two evils. You decide whom that my be. Myself TRUMP.