We're well on our way to realizing Stalin's ambition.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

We're well on our way to realizing Stalin's ambition.

OK, I'll bite. How so?

patriotism is no where near what it was20 to 100 years ago.

morality? If someone old enough to live in TV does not think that our morality has been on a steady decline for years then it may do well to get the pulse checked. Our moral standards today are a complete open door, do what ever, say what ever, display what ever and where ever one wants to do so. We have become a moral garbage pit compared to what we were in the 50's (and before).
And continuing to decline by the way.

spiritual life? all one needs to do is watch and listen to the youth of today. Many of the parents are from a generation that didn't have time for church hence what can be expected of their children. Television, the baby sitter of our young ones is a constant stream of profanity, lechers, liars, murder, stealing, robbing, no respect for humanity.....condoned by the stupid and near stupid relatives!!!

The decline compared to my youth in the 50's is absolutely tragic and disgusting......PERMISSIVE PACIFISM AT IT'S FINEST!!!!!!!!!!!

Even if Stalin didn't really say it....IT IS TRUE AND HAPPENING!!!

btk

Sounds like a paranoid conspiracy scenario to me. I think Obama is Russian trained and will assist in the overthrow from inside the WH. Somebody warn Sarah because Russia is just outside her back door. Aunt M Aunt M. The Ski is falling. Hurry and see if Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck can come and save us all. Oh My Oh My what will we do?

after the jesting is over how about an opinion on the state of our patriotism, morality and spiritualism compared to when you were a youngster?

btk

The Wasilla Quitta is supposed to be keeping an eye on those pesky Russians.

Where do those planes go?

Every generation has had their bag boys and girls. Many thought the 60's were the end of civilization. I think family values have changed. More two parent incomes and more kid time with after school programs. Patriotism was very high after 911 and still is in most American's heart. During election year it is a favorite cry of the Hawks and the far right wing that we are a nation of non-patriotic and immoral people.

I am an Iowa Farm Boy, 22 years in the military and 12 years federal Government. I see things much much better today than they were years ago. It is just that everything is out in the open. Back 20 or more years, people and communities turned their heads to molestation of children and now everyone demands action, punishment and prevention. And it is that way in several other categories, just more open and that is a good thing. Ya can't fix what ya can't see.

Get off the paranoid wagon.

If you choose to look at the negatives, that's all you'll see.

Patriotism? I see a lot more than when I was a kid. (I'm 49)

Morality? I see us treating people more fair these days. It's not perfect - but women can vote, unlike 100 years ago, and so can minorities, unlike 200 years ago. Children aren't forced to work in factories and we provide 'free' primary education to every citizen. Yes, there are more divorces - can't argue that - but women are also not forced to live in abusive relationships. They don't have to endure beatings to keep a roof over their heads.

Spiritual Life? I submit to you that the Catholic Church, Jim & Tammy Faye Bakker and Jimmy Swaggarts of the world have done more damage.

Originally Posted by djplong

If you choose to look at the negatives, that's all you'll see.

Patriotism? I see a lot more than when I was a kid. (I'm 49)

Morality? I see us treating people more fair these days. It's not perfect - but women can vote, unlike 100 years ago, and so can minorities, unlike 200 years ago. Children aren't forced to work in factories and we provide 'free' primary education to every citizen. Yes, there are more divorces - can't argue that - but women are also not forced to live in abusive relationships. They don't have to endure beatings to keep a roof over their heads.

Spiritual Life? I submit to you that the Catholic Church, Jim & Tammy Faye Bakker and Jimmy Swaggarts of the world have done more damage.

The more I follow this forum, the more I understand that the conservatives on this site do not represent the conservatives I associate with, but are more fanatical than would be accepted by the normal GOP. Thank God and Greyhound for that.

I enjoy this forum as I learn more and more about how differently we as individuals see things. One thing I have not done and will not do is the compartmentalizing, categorizing people, by R or D or white or black or catholic or WASP....It must facilitate a need for some in order to process what they see/hear.

Anything one doesn't need to navigate through daily life is not a very high priority for me. And being a certain flavor or needing to put others in a certain pigeon hole is just not used in daily life.

I find it to be an impediment and oh so limiting.

btk

This link seems to blame how transitory our society is for the decline of religions in the US-- Statistics on Religion in America Report -- Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life

9/11 certainly bolstered our patriotism as probably did also the killing of Osama bin Laden. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8410977/...ontinues-soar/

There seems to be something on the decline of morality according to the Gallup Poll but "morality" is a very difficult thing to really define. http://www.gallup.com/poll/128042/am...ins-bleak.aspx The morality of the 1920s would be quite different from that of the 1880s or the 1980s or the 2010s.

Stalin, though, is probably the last person to look to for making a value judgment about anything having to do with ethics in the United States.

joe stalin, that joe stalin the mass murderer and we are going to quote him? You are kidding right?

Originally Posted by waynet

joe stalin, that joe stalin the mass murderer and we are going to quote him? You are kidding right?

He is not the only one !! Several of those who wish us ill will have said basically the same thing...how they will destroy us from within.

Just as I figured. I got predictable dismissive and ridiculing attitudes toward my little post from all the usual suspects, and only the conservative minded posters reacted with any serious thought to the implication of the quote, except DJ who I disagree with yet again, but at least he gave some thought to it.