Americans are spoiled brats when it comes to their cars. We complain about the price of gas yet will do nothing to lesson our use. Any President who even mentions Americans sacrificing just a little will be villified and replaced. Thats why we do not and never have had an energy policy. We now have 2 other countries,India and China,who need oil and will pay for it. Finally,we all must realize that oil is a FINITE resourse,it will run out. So when someone says we cannot drill our way out they are right. To me the drill baby drillers are just showing how spoiled they are. And to whine about the cost of your commute and then blaming the President shows an absolute simplistic approach to a 40 year problem.

Originally Posted by waynet

Americans are spoiled brats when it comes to their cars. We complain about the price of gas yet will do nothing to lesson our use. Any President who even mentions Americans sacrificing just a little will be villified and replaced. Thats why we do not and never have had an energy policy. We now have 2 other countries,India and China,who need oil and will pay for it. Finally,we all must realize that oil is a FINITE resourse,it will run out. So when someone says we cannot drill our way out they are right. To me the drill baby drillers are just showing how spoiled they are. And to whine about the cost of your commute and then blaming the President shows an absolute simplistic approach to a 40 year problem.

I'm not whining. I'm raising Hell.....to the deaf ears of the President that bows to Saudi Kings. The President that kissed them didn't listen either. My wife's 40mpg vehicle is about the best she can do. So drill now and in the mean time work on a solution.

the POTUS swore an oath to protect and provide. How well one or another does the job is a function of what is going on around him and the world at the time he is in office. On the subject of energy they ALL have in common the desire to not upset the oil producers, the lobbyists and special interest groups. They will ONLY provide band aids or rhetoric during times of unrest until the clamoring subsides and can return to the root of the problem....DOING BUSINESS AS USUAL!

It is a matter of time before either our monitary or energy practices will bring this country to a stand still.

The current administration(s) need only play the game sufficiently to try to not have the collapse happen on their watch. And like his predecessors that is precisely what Obama is doing....and we the sheeple are allowing...AGAIN/STILL!.

btk

Originally Posted by DaleMN

I heard a news report that the price of gasoline doesn't have much to do with supply and demand. Supplies are adequate; demand is down. The price of gas is largely determined by "speculative traders". The Wall Street greed at work.
The President really has little to do with gas prices. Of course the response will be the liberal media protecting the president and we can count on a series of links from wing-nut sources "proving" that all we have to do is "Drill Baby Drill" and, presto, problem solved.

Solyndra is a good start to an alternative source.

Solyndra had nothing to do with energy pursuit and all to do with the profit and political objectives of a very small group of people. Let's even give Obama the benefit of the doubt...he got taken. He was anxious to get a high visibility example of "doing the right thing for America" opportunity. It was just too bad he is surrounded by intellectuals and thinkers and lawyers and no business acumen in the entire gang. To sort out the return on investment capability of the enterprise.

Special interest with a political objective never equals a benefit for we the people. Solyndra's demise was in the workings of the company the day Obama was touring the plant being fed a line of BS or was it justification fodder....for him.

Every executive who was ever involved in trying to rescue or fix a broken company or plant or industry always hoped to get one that was as easy and as clear cut to solve as America's energy independence needs.

The first thing we used to do is get rid of the rhetorical executives that could not or would not do the job. In this case we would have to fire and get rid of all the political connections and get busy doing what needs to be done to solve a major need for America.

A piece of cake!!! (for real leadership).

btk

We've been denied the use of our God given resources by the liberal establishment for too many years now. I remember Bill Clinton discounting the value of ANWR because the benefits would be 10 years away even if he allowed the drilling and so it wouldn't fix his present problems concerning oil. That was 20 years ago, and the Democrat liberal establishment in league with the radical environmentalist and Earth First-er's have blocked energy acquisition at every turn. The latest being the Keystone Pipeline.

Maybe we should consider adding a 50% tax on every gallon shipped out of the US. That might help the balance of trade and reduce our deficit

Now THAT makes sense to me!! , but then, what do I know! It just seems to me that far too many of our own put the almighty buck ahead of what is best for our own nation. Sorry, probably overly simplistic, but that's how I feel.

The Katz has to agree with the Lion and the Bear!
Politician truly so short sighted that they aren't willing to begin now, even if the reward isn't for 10years?! This shows how out of touch with the common folk they really are. I am sure that most of us on the forum know the importance of making wise choices now that will affect us years down the road.

Hang on a sec.

Do I see a conservative advocating the imposition of an EXPORT tax to stop a "job creator" (corporation) from doing their busienss as they see fit?

ME? Ya know, I've had it also with big corporations getting bailed out with my money. If taxing them in this manner keeps them out of my pocket, go for it! I may be conservative, but I'm not stupid. Not sure it should be as high as 50% tho. I also think that we should be trading a barrel of wheat for a barrel of oil closer to even up, I'm not that stupid either! Why is that Americans will give to other countries til it hurts, then turn around and attack one another for being greedy?! THAT IS STUPID!

Originally Posted by RichieLion

We've been denied the use of our God given resources by the liberal establishment for too many years now. I remember Bill Clinton discounting the value of ANWR because the benefits would be 10 years away even if he allowed the drilling and so it wouldn't fix his present problems concerning oil. That was 20 years ago, and the Democrat liberal establishment in league with the radical environmentalist and Earth First-er's have blocked energy acquisition at every turn. The latest being the Keystone Pipeline.

I think god would want us to be good stewards of our resources. They are not finite when it comes to oil. If we rape the land our great, great, great, etc. grandkids will be living in the land of the "Road Warrior".

Originally Posted by KatzPajamas

ME? Ya know, I've had it also with big corporations getting bailed out with my money. If taxing them in this manner keeps them out of my pocket, go for it! I may be conservative, but I'm not stupid. Not sure it should be as high as 50% tho. I also think that we should be trading a barrel of wheat for a barrel of oil closer to even up, I'm not that stupid either! Why is that Americans will give to other countries til it hurts, then turn around and attack one another for being greedy?! THAT IS STUPID!

Good thoughts on the wheat for oil. Maybe we should start here.

Drought stricken, Iran buys US wheat for first time in 27 years

Originally Posted by BaylorBear

Maybe we should consider adding a 50% tax on every gallon shipped out of the US. That might help the balance of trade and reduce our deficit

Now THAT makes sense to me!! , but then, what do I know! It just seems to me that far too many of our own put the almighty buck ahead of what is best for our own nation. Sorry, probably overly simplistic, but that's how I feel.

In Montreal we are paying 1.39 per litre (Today) which is roughly 5.25 per gallon, yet Montreal refinerys are selling gas to Eastern U.S. states who then sell it for far less than we pay? Will be glad to get to the U.S. in March for a month and take advantage of your cheaper gas?? Be thankful you have it pretty good.

Originally Posted by DaleMN

I think god would want us to be good stewards of our resources. They are not finite when it comes to oil. If we rape the land our great, great, great, etc. grandkids will be living in the land of the "Road Warrior".

I gotta agree with you DaleMN!

Originally Posted by DaleMN

I think god would want us to be good stewards of our resources. They are not finite when it comes to oil. If we rape the land our great, great, great, etc. grandkids will be living in the land of the "Road Warrior".

Blah, blah, blah.............No one knows how to extract the oil from the ground with less environmental impact than the U.S., and no one else even tries.

There is evidence that the oil isn't even a finite resource but is renewable, as evidenced by the wells in Mexico and Uzbekistan that are refilling and refuse to run dry.

Peak Oil or Nonsense - Are Wells Refilling or Running Dry?

THE ASTUTE BLOGGERS: OIL WELLS THAT REFUSE TO RUN DRY

This is all against the environmentalist activist liberal national media and so it is never reported on.

Scientists have no idea how much oil there is. The facts are that there is more than anybody ever believed. There seems to be no end to Middle East oil and we were supposed to be seeing the end of it by now. They are in fact pumping more than ever.